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Zappatas...over here!!!

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Dropdeadfred · 08/01/2008 19:49

we got to 1000 again....made me reminisce about our original thread all those months ago

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Dropdeadfred · 05/02/2008 15:21

no worries...dd3 loves train journeys ( she always thinks it's Gordon pulling the train and Thomas being a back engine )

You nearly did have a car big enugh Squonk if you'd got the ebay one!!!

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fryalot · 05/02/2008 15:24

and that's a whole other story!

Mum and nephew are coming to visit on Friday.

So, I said to dp that I will hire the seven seater car and he was

I pointed out that he suggested that we should buy a normal sized car and rent a bigger one when mum comes to visit, and obviously trade it in for a people carrier if we have another child.

He has conveniently forgotten the conversation.

Luckily, I conveniently forgot that he said not to hire one so am picking it up on saturday

Dropdeadfred · 05/02/2008 15:37

!!!

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burstingbug · 05/02/2008 17:19

It's here! I've been pushing it all over the house for the last half hour

Dropdeadfred · 05/02/2008 18:00

burstingbug you are officially a zappata!

Welcome!

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burstingbug · 05/02/2008 18:02

Thanks, I speedily learnt how to open and fold it and get it back into the travel bag with the foot muff too

scottishmummy · 05/02/2008 18:06

i remember the flurry of zapp-matching-bag-buying my mandarin-orangeier-than-dale-winton-zapp due out of the loft for its summer holiday hurl soon. har har the only time i use the damn thing

and zappata thread is where egg told us she was having her baby..then it was babies twins

born now..awww i am mushy at thought of past zappata conversations

marmitemad · 05/02/2008 19:19

"I want a zapp too" but at least you girls are so lovely to let me join your club anyway!

welcome bursting bug, am very of your purple zapp, did you see we are planning a meet up, possibly on 30th May. whereabouts are you in the world?

Fred - I could pick you up as I have a 7 seater car (although have not used all 7 seats yet), we are in Bracknell, off J3 M3.

Phono - whereabouts are you and do you drive or need to get a train?

I would be happy to go to Brighton as I really would be passing Fred's doorstep then but maybe somewhere new would be more exciting?

I think we really need to hear from Egg as to how far she is willing to travel,

Egg · 05/02/2008 19:55

Hello girls no time to even catch up as must just eat and go to bed before I keel over but just wanted to ask advice.

Day went from bad to worse when DS1 threw a (fairly large and heavy) ball at DS2 while I was feeding DD. I told him never to throw things at the babies (as he has been told numerous times before), and carried on feeding DD as DS2 seemed ok, then DS1 got the baby monitor and threw it at DS2 . DS2 burst into tears . So did I. DS1 was taken to his room and left alone for a few mins and told why he was being punished (he also got shouted at as I was so mad). DS2 cried for nearly an hour on and off, although I don't think he was hurt (monitor thankfully did not get his head) but was very upset at being woken! How do I get DS1 to understand how bad throwing heavy things at a tiny baby is? Girls on Feb thread are giving me advice too.......

Will be back tomorrow with proper chat and Zapp talk!

fryalot · 06/02/2008 07:44

morning

egg - not sure if you can get ds1 to stop throwing things. I am a firm believer in ignoring the bad behaviour and praising good so my advice would be to try not to let him get his hands on anything hard/breakable (easy for me to say, I know)Tell him that if he is naughty you will ignore him and if he does throw something, calmly but firmly remove it and ignore him. Do not talk to him, look at him or acknowledge that he is there at all.

On the other hand, if you notice that he hasn't thrown anything, tell him what a good boy he is and go a bit over the top with your praise with lots of hugs and kisses. (and it doesn't matter if it has been three minutes that he hasn't thrown anything for - as long as you are telling him how good he is for not doing it)

This method does work but it isn't an immediate fix and obviously you need an immediate fix. Sorry I've no better advice. See what the others say...

And while you're reading this, poor Marmite is desperately trying to organise a Zappata meet up. We've got the date as 30th May, but we need to know if you can still do Brighton now you've moved or if we need to find a new venue.

Hoping last night was a bit better for you than the previous one.

Hello everyone else

Egg · 06/02/2008 08:03

Ooh how strange Squonky, I just texted you and said something like "can't wait for meet up I love Brighton blaa blaa" and came on here and you have asked and I realise I have not said YAY or NAY to date and venue.

It is a resounding YAY.

Ahh, DS1 just woken so had better go and get him. But yes please to meet up, date and venue good (have not checked how far it is to Brighton yet mind you, but am sure it will be OK.

Last night was so much better btw .

fryalot · 06/02/2008 08:06

"We're all going to Brighton, we're all going to Brighton ta da da daaaaa, ta da da daaaaaa"

Egg · 06/02/2008 08:16

it says 1hr 41 so not too bad . Bit longer than before but I am willing to do it for you girls .

Hope I have a bigger car by then too .

fryalot · 06/02/2008 08:17

egg - if not, you could always strap one of them to the roofrack

marmitemad · 06/02/2008 08:39

hooray, hooray, we're all going on a summer holiday.. or at least a zappata day trip to Brighton , hope the sun shines now did you all go to the beach last year?

Have just had a thought that we could plan for an adult only meet up in August maybe as Squonk said she would be back darrrn sarrff?

lol at child on roof rack, question would be which one???

can we have a drum roll here because..... dd slept all night!!!!!!!! Have no idea what was different but feel so much better for a complete nights sleep even though my nose and head are really stuffy again .

Poor ds1 (and Egg), it really sounds like an attention thing, it must be hard for him to share you with not just one new baby but two, echo Squonk's advice with the praise but also are you managing to spend some special time with him alone at point during the day? (must be difficult I know) Did you have a good night?

I am supposed to be going to an Ann Summers party tonight but really not sure I can be bothered?

Dropdeadfred · 06/02/2008 09:10

Marmite...hurray for baby marmite!!!!

Egg, 'we're all going on a summer holiday'' Cliff Richard styley!! Yay for fish and chips on Brighton pier..just have to save up a squillion points to blow.

I only lost 1 lb at ww this week ...still it has been a bit of an emotional week andI didn't always stick to it as closely as i should.

Marmite I once had the displeasure of working at Anne Summers head office and no make it my mission in life to put peoplke off buying from them. The amount of dipleasured (haha) customers we used to haveto deal with....
They have a no refund policy, they only give credit. So if you buy something like a bra without beinng able to try it on (which is normally the case) and it doesn't fit and there is nothign else you want - TOUGH basically...

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Egg · 06/02/2008 09:11

Hurrah better nights all round then. My two small ones managed 4 hours and occasionally FIVE hours between feeds last night and I went to bed at 9pm and didn't have to get up til 1am so I got FOUR HOURS IN A ROW! Glad yours was good too marmite.

Very excited about our May meet up and also a good idea about maybe a meet up with just adults in Aug or something. As mentioned before we have a spare double bedroom so anyone who wants to can stay here (you can all sleep in it together!!!!!!). Alternatively I could maybe maybe stay overnight in London at my sis or parents house if DH can stay home with ALL three DCs overnight (all depends on how the night sleep is going by then). Anyway am sure we will work something out.

So... Phono whereabouts are you? I was in Putney until last summer and so about 10-15 mins walk from the Half Moon. Is yours the same Half Moon? I know there is another one in Herne Hill which is 10 mins walk from my parents, so probably others around, not that I am doubting that it is the same one but I remember you saying you "kind of" lived in London so thought you were further out.

Anyway, Fred, I think you did the right thing re your brother. Well worded text and means you don't feel you have left anything unsaid (except "ditch the bitch" perhaps...) and the ball is in his court.

Thanks for advice re DS1. I know ignoring is a great tactic, and my lovely doula certainly manages it with DS1 if he tips stuff over the floor or gets a bit overexcited with her etc, but when he actually intentionally throws a HEAVY object, having already thrown a slightly less dangerous one and been told not to, it is very very hard not to react, esp as I didn't even know if he had hurt DS2.

Ahhh, just looked over and DS1 is sitting on his pirate chair like this one but with snuggle sac still folded inside watching Something Special and looking uber cute .

Egg · 06/02/2008 09:12

Fred 1lb is STILL a loss, and you didn't gain despite a difficult week. I think you should be proud. I have gained 2lb .

Dropdeadfred · 06/02/2008 09:26

Egg...I think perhaps DS1 hasbeen very very goodso far with the dtsarrival etc so this is more of a shock to you.

My advice would be to get him on your team. Tell him he is your special big boy and you are very pleased with how much he helps you look after the little ones. Really stress how you and him are the BIG team and they are just little babies that can't play, read books yet, go on the slide or all the clever things he can do. Praise him in a very over the top way for any thing he might help with or any signs of affection, but as the wise Squonk says ignore any bad stuff UNLESS it is dangerous....then I think you did right by removing him from the room temporarily.
I'm sure you've done most of this before, but I do remeber with dd1 she like dto think that we were still 'together as always' and we both now had a baby to look after and that I really needed her big girl help sometimes. Rather than me saying I can't do this I have baby to look after etc etc

Sorry for waffling...thanks for your kind words about text..I do feel alot better now.

And yay I guess a pound off is a still a loss...
Egg if you have put weight on you must have needed it is all I can say!!!

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fryalot · 06/02/2008 09:35

oh I do love Fred's advice, she really is the sage one. Fab fab fab idea of getting him to be a big person

Ditto, love the idea of an adults only night. Sure my mum would be only too happy to babysit for me

Fred - 1lb lost is still a loss, as egg says, well done

marmite- YAAAAYYYYYY!!!!! tis the small victories that mean so much. DD2 now appears to be settled (think we're getting on for three weeks now) but I haven't forgotten three years worth of interrupted nights. Well done Marmitedd

Coincidentally enough (re: fred's problems with bro) I am meeting up with my bro this afternoon. He is passing within 20 miles of my house so am off to meet him this pm. He is bringing my mum's luggage so she doesn't have to carry it on the train but even so...

Dropdeadfred · 06/02/2008 09:41

Squonk..I heart you

Good to hear you'll have chance to see your bro again..hope these little meets will gradually grow into a good and easy relationship again..?

I would be up for an adult meet in August...and guess what I will be a MARRIED woman out on the town then!!

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Dropdeadfred · 06/02/2008 09:47

OOOh girls, not sure is nay of you like Silver jewellery but I came across this site on my travels and it does seem a real offer.
You get the jewellery for free and just pay apprx £4.50 for shipping.

I have prdered a couple of pairs of earrings and will let you know what they are like...here

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marmitemad · 06/02/2008 19:01

oooh I love silver jewellery but it looks too good to be true. also have to pull in the belts as I appear to be spending too much money. £40 on party stuff last night didn't help either .

Have decided to go tonight as I need to plan party food with my friend (we are having a joint party for the babies friends as they are just a day apart) and won't be on here until tomorrow evening as we have a packed day, swimming, messy play session and cranial osteopath.

I don't expect we want to plan the August meet up now but I can't do the weekend of 9th August.

Egg - I love ds's pirate chair, how did today go with ds?

Squonk - Hope your meeting with brother went ok?

Fred - well done on the 1lb weight loss, I've completely fallen off the wagon this week as I can't go to weigh in tomorrow and I'm still waiting for af. Ate 6 pancakes last night and am going to McDonalds for lunch tomorrow (this is once in a blue moon).

No check in form Phono today, I guess she's been working hard???? I seem to have developed a bad habit of checking MN as soon as I get in in the morning, I'm sure I'll be picked up by the IT police soon.

fryalot · 07/02/2008 07:59

just a quickie - ds is shouting.

Meeting with bro went fine. He handed over mum's luggage and three bags of clothes for my littlies, so it felt a bit like christmas when we got home

Jewellery looks lovely, but I am allergic to everything except gold and plastic (guess which I get most of )

Will catch up properly later on

FlameNFurter · 07/02/2008 08:12

I know you lot are chat now, but seemed the best place to come with a Zapp question

The right wheel keeps falling off when I get it out/fold it up. Anyway I can stop it? Methinks it hasn't appreciated being bumped down steps