Are taking drugs and being a good parent mutually exclusive then?

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I don't want to get told off lots or start a fight, its just that I (along with most of my friends - parents or not) will take drugs every now and then, but I am aware that the people I know are not necessarily representative of what's really normal or acceptable - so what does everyone really think?

I cannot imagine that there are people who have really and truly never broken any laws - never ever 'stolen' anything from work (time? phone calls? a pencil?), never crept up to the giddy speed of 34mph in a 30 zone?

Is it OK if the weed is grown in the UK (no air miles!) and organically?

You just have to love the way these debates become instantly polarised don'tcha!

Have a spliff or two and the next thing you know you're barking at washing machines and mainlining smack down by the canal after having sold your kid to your dealer. God alone knows how I've managed to avoid doing that. It's lucky I manage to find my way to the office each day to be honest.

As vacua said rather beautifully, between the extremes of ignorant virtue and harrowing stories lies the majority of recreational drug use (sorry vacua, couldn't put it any better than you did!)

Yes, under fiar trade conditions, natch

If you are going down that route, remeber that the manufacture of drugs is responsible for loads of suffereing in this world.

sorry haven't read whole thread but got the general jist. apart from becoming a spaced out dullard on weed i object to economic issues around drugs. if you are the sort of person who wrings their hands about buying mangetout flown in from africa cos of air miles or buying clothes from primark cos of the child labour how can you justify sourcing a product that fuel organised crime and general misery around the world. or maybe you don't give a shite about any of the above.

Oh she said that did she? Haven't read it all. in that case well said vacua!

Some of the opinions on here remind me of my elderly parents who beleive that a sniff of joint instantly leads to a life of crime, misery and white slavery.

OrmIrian, It still proves that the father concerned BREAKS THE LAW.

Why is that so unimportant now?

He is also likely to be damaging his health long-term. The Weed and the coke will have a long-term effect.

glows with pride

as for it being an icky industry, do not think it is any worse than buying non fair trade chocolate or clothes from ASDA neither of which are remotely cool or an important part of growing up

OrmIrain, would you think the same if you heard he had died through taking said drugs???
Surely then it would become a double tragedy, that he could have avoided.

i am unaware of the fact that asda support organised crime but maybe i missed something.

My point about the food and wooden toys was just that as a parent you can do things that people think are Good and things that people think are Bad.

It wasn't meant to mean that everyone who does things differently is Bad. It was just an attempt to illustrate the fact that I am not a passed-out junkie who can't be bothered to do anything for her child or put any thought or effort into her upbringing. Was a bit tongue-in-cheek really and wasn't meant to insult anyone else.

Of course it's against the law. But most of choose which laws to break don't we? Unless you never break the speed limit, use a phone whilst driving etc. All of them seen by most people as 'little' infringments.

I agree vacua. And if it wasn't illegal there is an argument that it wouldn't be so icky.

I think ASDA's contribution to global poverty is criminal.

yep it is but pretending it is the same as drug running is a little far fetched.

IME of peolle who take coke, they are the ones that buy the organic clothing/fair trade coffee, and outwardsly have a huge social conscience. They then snort thier socail conscience up thier hypocritical noses.

No of course not. It would be a terrible tragedy. But he took what he saw as a calculated risk tim and being experienced was less likely to use the wrong stuff in the wrong amounts. And he got it right. He didn't die. He could have thrown himself off a mway bridge which is something he seriously contemplated.

Hmm, so it's okay to break the law on "little" things.

If someone speeds or uses then phone while driving, then kills/injures someone because of it, that's then not a "little" thing.

And personally I don't regard posessing/using illegal substances as a "little " thing anyway.

And I am not lumping peole who take drugs as a result of miusfortune or their circu,manstaces, or for pain managem,ant. That is a whole different kettle du poisson imho.

I am purely talking abouit middle class twits who read the guardian and are called tim oir suchlike

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"he took what he saw as a calculated risk".

But as a father, it wasn't just HIS risk to take. He could have left his children orphaned (yes, even just trying heroin once)

Luckily I am arrogant and opinionated enough to not need coke these days.

lol vacua!

In answer to the OP: nope, definitely not.