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[francagoestohollywood]

Welcome everyone

oh god! don't worry about being noiosa pls. you are not! I'd be the same. The sad things about having children sometimes it is that they will get over things a lot quicker than you, while you'll spend nights crying feeling guilty and wondering whether you'd done the right thing and whether you're being selfish! I've felt exactly like this when I chenged the childminder (a minor thing compared to your undoubtedly). Does DH feels like this? I bet not. Mine didn't. I wish I could be like that sometimes.

are you as sad? do they know you are sad as well? like rosa said, there'll be no tears during xmas, maybe after but then it'll be a good month, which for kiids is a long time.

any news re sale of house?

done photobox, easy actually even for an idiot like me. yesterday I showed DD the night garden games on bbc website and I swear she grasped the mouse and click in a second. quite scary. how big is the generational (sp) gap be in terms of technology?

Today I have literally done NOTHING! the house and me are exactly like we were last night. shameful.

rosa I'll be forever thankful for resolving those two xmas presents. please any other suggestions?

a mini rosa and a mini hothell for 2008/9 pls!!

okay I am going to have a bath. maybe that'll spring me into action as I could easily see myself going back to bed.

a bath?
Good answer re the flowers and the trees keeping it company . I'm going to miss this house.
No, no sign of dh being worried/stressed/sad or anything. I want him to go and talk to the estate agents (it's been very quiet in the last 10 days, but I guess it's christmas) but he seems very laid back about it. I'm trying to de-clutter as much as possible (as I find it difficult to get rid of things), but he's done NOTHING .
oh well. my friend is visiting this afternoon, so I'm now. Will play with photobox later. ciaoooo e thanks for listening

I'm addicted to playing "burger time" online. does anyone know it? it was an early 80s videogame from intellevision...

Burger time????!!!

Poor Franca, I don't envy you. I always found house moving very distressing, not least because I hate decluttering and I absolutely abhor throwing things out. Is anyone helping you? Once you've decluttered the worst (just so no embarrassing items suddenly pop out) you can invite people round and have a packing party. Make a cake or buy biscuits and give a prize to the person who packs the most. You can choose whether to participate or just supervise.

Pippi, I've been doing nothing all day apart from writing emails for work and only had a shower at 3pm. I have to go and pick up DD in about 15 mins and I still have to get dressed. And I'm not even pg. Just think, I used to be a real get up and go person, now I've turned into a sloth with a flabby bum from sitting around too much. And backache.

ciao a tutte, i am really hoping for a mini hotHell for the new year. Maybe this month? If dp and I get it together, we are sooo noiosi....
Franca did you tell your dcs that you feel sad too? I think it may be important that they know, that it is a reasonable feeling to have, oh dear, , i feel sad for you too, i would find it hard as well, i am a bit noiosa too.
pippi i always find after a holiday that it takes me a while to get onto mumsnet!

ah Brang, amica mia!
TBH I only started feeling guilty about lazying about since DD was born, maybe because it is such an unusual thing. Before she came along it was quite a normal thing for me to do, especially during my uni years. I could spend days in my pjs just reading books in bed with snacks piled up on the bedside table and the cat cuddled up on my feet. (that's a picture of me today!) and never ever once I felt guilty about it. maybe grotty and overloaded with words but not guilty. What does motherhood does to us women??? Why do we lose the capacity to enjoy to its full extent something that is beneficial just for ourself and does not involve anyone else? weird!!!
DH was off last monday on his own and all he did was sit and nap in front of the telly. I did not sense one ounce of guilty for 1. not doing any chores 2. organisiing his paperwork 3. thinking about dinners for me coming frm work 4. leaving DD at the childminder while he could have spent the day with her. We should all try to be men a bit, me thinks.

spoke to work I can finish now if I feel like it!!

I have decided all I am going to do is take the laundry out of the machine and hang it as otherwise it'll smell...everythng alse will have to wait till tomorrow.

hothell yes that is true... you break the habit. also i have been reading a lot. 2 books today!!! yes!!

franca what was the name of that book you were reading to your DC by astrid lindgren? I can't find it.

this Pippi. It's called "il libro di bullerby " in Italian. I'm only reading it to ds as dd is not interested in chapter books yet. she still wants lots of pictures. At the moment she loves Dr Miao big emergency.
Hotmed, I'd love to go see the doctor, but I think I don't have the time!!! I have the number of a consultorio in Milan where you can book a series of colloqui con psicologhi, a dear friend recommended to me, so I think I'll ring and start in Janaury.
Brange this maldischiena thing is bad news. My back is been really bad after having dd. I'va had a stiff neck since going to London and I'm not keen of taking too many aulin.
the de-cluttering party sounds like a good idea. I'd like, to be completely honest, that dh helped, if you know what I mean... Luckily the traslocatori are doing the major packing, like the books and the china/kitchen stuff.

what I wanted to say brangelina is that we should go to pilates classes...

I thought it'd be this one. it's sounds great. TBH they all do. i've both I fratelli Cuordileone per DNephew2.

oh and I've done the photo calendars: they are absolutely lovely and both nanny and nonna will cry when they see it, maybe nonno even! rosa you'll be forever my savior!!!

so now in terms of pressies all I need to do is another present for DH, if the first turns out to be crap when it arrives, and a couple of things for DD which I'll get tomorrow. SIL will get nothing as she has never bought me anything, or invited us for dinner se e' per questo.

next on the list is Xmas cards and get all the food and house decorations sorted. I am a different woman. Last year I was in Oxford street on the 24th if I remember correctly.

I have sorted out only my mum.

we had a disaster the other day as the dc found the playmobil take along dolls house hidden in the ripostiglio. fine they are not going to get anything else from me, apart from a peppa pig dvd for dd and tin tin for ds.

devo andare a preparare la cena [fed up emoticon)!

I seem to understand you don't like your sil that much pippi?

it was obvious wasn't it? well she's not that bad really it's just a 40something spoilt brat (she reminds me of myself at 15 iyswim!) which I think it's unacceptable. (will tell you the gossips in altra sede)

Yes to Pilates, I did it years ago when I did danza (like, when I was 16!) and now that classes have started in Milan I was thinking of doing it. There's a class immediately before my kickboxing class on Friday and I thought of trying that, even though the teacher seems a bit vague and dippy.

I only got mal di schiena from picking up DD out of the carseat. It's basically a colpo di strega, only I'm sure it's been brewing for a while and this was just the colpo di grazia, especially as I spend most of my time hunched up in front of a computer and no longer have any addominali to speak of. I don't like taking drugs if they can be avoided (and Aulin sent me tripping once- maybe it was an aulin fungo) so maybe I'll try the osteopata this week.

Pippi, I don't like my SIL either, she's my age but has done nothing with her life and expects her parents to support her still. She's very false and superficial, pretends she's your best friend then gossips about you to DP's ex. We have always got her DD a Xmas present and she has never bothered with ours. I could go on but my pasta is now ready and I would hate for it to scuoce because of SIL. Buon appetito!

And Franca, I so understand you wanting DH to help. My DP never helped me and just criticised because nothing was ready. OK, he was stressed out from getting the house ready but I had a baby to look after. Men just don't understand these things. Will your DH be working straight away when you arrive or will he at least be able to help you unpack and sistemare?

Bran: she's 10 years older 'but has done nothing with her life and expects her parents to support her still' exactly, I could go on and on and on especially on how she treats MIL after all she does to help and support her!!! are we married to brothers????
never mind.

i remember Emil and L'isola dei gabbiani di Astrid Lindgren,,,, sigh...

I am staying in the uk during the hols, a trip to Brighton to visit friends and nothing else. What are you doing pippi? What books have you read pippi?
Bran, I am very curious about what you do.....are you in fashion?

brange dh will be in Milan hopefully until the first week of Jan then he's back here until end of the month because he'll teach. so we'll be hopefully getting the house "ready" after santo stefano.
at your sils! right I'm going to take a well deserved bath, hothell I keep having sinus headache and kept the hat the whole afternoon with ds taking the piss

Lol at me working in fashion! Nothing so glamourous, alas. If you saw me you'd understand. It's something a bit more "corporate" but I can work from home when I want, which is why I often write emails in my underwear.

A friend of mine used to work in fashion (1 milione al mese in nero, working all hours, all night if there was a sfilata) and she used to invite me to the odd fashion party. Not my scene at all, lots of tall skinny women and too many "carissimi".

Franca - so your DH will only be there for a short time, will he be able to help much? If you need any help unpacking just give me a call, if I'm not in Paris I can come round and give you a hand.

Brangelina, thanks . I'll call you anyway because I'd like to see you again
mmmmm I might have been brangelina's friend. I worked in fashion, earnt 1 milione in nero + bonus sfilate (and the clients used to complain that we didn't wear their clothes during fashion shows... how could we afford them?), work a lot, but it was also good fun as I was working with friends. However it did put me off from "working" fullstop