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LilyLangtrey · 11/10/2020 12:44

Good afternoon, Clunkers!

Welcome to the Breakfast Club where the kettle is permanently on, the drinks flow and the snacks are both self-replenishing and calorie-free.

We start each day with a look at history and a tribute to a brave or inspiring woman. Mostly though, we just chat randomly about current affairs, recipes, life in lockdown, literature, music and anything else that comes into our heads.

Veteran Clunkers welcome. Anyone else who wants to join in the chat - sense of humour essential! - welcome.

Kettle's on Brew

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thegcatsmother · 15/10/2020 21:32

What you need is Twinings Swiss Chocolate drink. Stick a mug of milk in the microwave with about 3-4 teaspoons of the stuff stirred in, and nuke for about 90 seconds, stir and give longer if it needs it. Lush stuff.

The other way is boil milk in a pan and then pour over chocolate nibs or buttons...that works well too, and you can have both milk and dark in the same mug to get the flavour you like.

BakedCam · 15/10/2020 21:55

@ZombieFan

BakedCam I actually like Andy (normally) but his rant today didn't make sense, it seems to just be pure politics.

He refused to go into full Boris lockdown but has no problem going into a full Starmer lockdown.
His area is riddled with Covid but he is refusing to do more, how is that helping 'his people'?

He never mentioned that someone on low wages getting 67% furlough can also claim UC on top of that to get almost 100% of their wages.
Yes some jobs might get lost in his area but his solution is to lose jobs across the whole of the country. Its not anyone's fault its a pandemic.

His answer to how the country would pay for an 80% furlough that would have to last until the pandemic was over, was it wont cost us a penny. He never mentioned what would happen after a 2 week lockdown.

I have more respect for the Liverpool Mayor (who I dont like) who accepted a level 3 lockdown was needed. He wanted more money as well but accepted the evil government wouldn't give him anymore. Much more honest.

All good points, Zombie.

But, (I'm outside of his jurisdiction) we have been in what is now Tier 2 since the end of July. Greater Manchester and East Lancashire have had increased rates from being in Tier 2 for three months. Our town is one of the highest in the country. I'm cross AB is speaking for us.

AB concentrates on the Northern boroughs which are particularly deprived. Him doing this stand off with No 10 is nothing but as you say a demand for money. I'm sceptical and have been throughout about lockdowns. I'm just pleased that someone is baring their teeth.

The UK didn't implement a lockdown back in March. The measures don't follow the behaviour of the virus. Manchester has a huge university population. The reason uni students were encouraged to return to halls was because they were legally bound by their housing in halls.

The transit of people has contributed to the higher numbers. That is clear from the geographical numbers of cases. Our town sitting up there is to do with the textile industry and fast fashion as I mentioned earlier in this thread.

No 10 have confirmed there is no money on the table for AB. His next move will be interesting.

BakedCam · 15/10/2020 21:58

I'll have a mozzarella with Parma Ham, porcine mushrooms pizza please.

Teflon

Sending some love.

realitychick67 · 15/10/2020 22:11

[quote Nelllyyy]@SylviaGold,

I love your Kitty’s names. 😻

We had a Maine Coon, he was a beautiful very large cat, almost dog like, silver and grey with a very fluffy neck and very long thick bushy tail.

He passed away at the age of 7 due to heart problems, very young for a cat, still miss him and our Cocker Spaniel boy. 💙💙[/quote]
Aw, sorry to hear about your Maine Coon. We love Maine Coons and are on our second pair, they're awesome cats but sadly not the most robust health-wise, in our experience. We lost our ginger boy in 2014 at age 6 due to cardiomyopathy, lost our female MC earlier this year (although she was 12 so she'd done pretty well for a pedigree cat) and now have a pair of five-year-old MC brothers. Both of those have had severe health issues in the past too, but thankfully bounced back. Despite not being the healthiest of breeds there's just something so endearing about a Maine Coon.

thegcatsmother · 15/10/2020 22:34

We used to live opposite a house that had 4 MCs in Belgium - Chairman Miaow and Gandalf used to team tag them and the fur would fly. Chairman Miaow was often seen heading off in hot pursuit of a Maine Coon much bigger than him and would return victorious, with a trail of fur (not his) behind him.

thegcatsmother · 15/10/2020 23:03

Brexit: UK chief negotiator 'disappointed' as EU fails to commit to intensified trade talks

By James Crisp, Brussels Correspondent 15 October 2020 • 7:42pm

Lord Frost accused Brussels of 'an unusual approach to conducting a negotiation'

Britain's chief negotiator said he was "disappointed" that European Union leaders dropped their commitment to intensified trade negotiations at a Brussels summit on Thursday night.

On Friday, Boris Johnson will make a statement about whether he will carry out his threat to walk out of trade talks and prepare to trade on WTO terms with the EU from January 1 after the end of the transition period.

Chief negotiator Lord Frost said he was "surprised [the] EU is no longer committed to working 'intensively' to reach a trade agreement" and accused Brussels of "an unusual approach to conducting a negotiation".

EU leaders said the UK had to make "the necessary moves to make an agreement possible" and concede on fishing, the "level playing field" guarantees and the enforcement of the deal at a summit held on Mr Johnson's October 15 deadline for a deal "to be in sight".

Lord Frost, whose advice will be influential in Mr Johnson's final decision, tweeted that he was "also surprised by suggestion that to get an agreement all future moves must come from the UK".

Rather than give in to the Prime Minister's demands for daily talks, EU leaders called in a statement for negotiation to "continue" and urged the European Commission to step up no-deal planning. Earlier drafts of the summit conclusions had demanded "intensified negotiations" before the EU's deadline of the end of October, but that was watered down.

Michel Barnier, the EU's chief negotiator, attempted to mitigate the damage and said he would meet British negotiators in London next week. UK sources said that was still to be confirmed.

"The negotiations aren't over. We want to give these negotiations every chance to be successful. I shall say to David Frost we are prepared to speed up negotiations in the next few days," Mr Barnier said.

Emmanuel Macron has warned that he would never sacrifice French fishermen for a trade deal. The French president demanded continued access to UK waters next year and said the UK had to submit to the bloc's "conditions". "We didn't choose Brexit," he said. "It's the British people's choice."

Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, said: "We want a deal, but obviously not at any price. It has to be a fair agreement that serves the interests of both sides. This is worth every effort." German government sources have pointed out that a no-deal Brexit would mean the EU would lose all its fishing opportunities instead of just some.

Xavier Bettel, the prime minister of landlocked Luxembourg, said the EU was united behind Mr Macron's demands. "Fishing is not the main priority of my country, but it would be crazy to say we don't care," he said. "The EU is a club."

Ursula von der Leyen, who held talks with Mr Johnson on Wednesday night, said a lot of "good work" had been done in the talks so far. The European Commission president left the summit early to self-isolate after a member of her staff tested positive for coronavirus.

EU leaders discussed the Brexit negotiations in detail for two and a quarter hours, with each EU leader taking the floor in turns for their first full debate on the issue this year.

Charles Michel, the European Council president, repeated the bloc's demand for Britain to drop clauses in the Internal Market Bill, which overrides the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement.

Senior EU diplomats predicted that if the UK made concessions another emergency summit could be called in mid-November to give political blessing to the agreement.

LilyLangtrey · 15/10/2020 23:05

Just popping my head in to see how you all are. Teffy, chin up, girl. Tomorrow's another day. Try and get some sleep.

I've only just finished tomorrow's OTD! 😱 I usually have it done and dusted by lunchtime but it has been manic. To make it worse, I often have to scrabble around in dusty footnotes to find those amazing women we all know existed. Tomorrow, there is an abundance of them. I won't be able to do them all justice - you'd be reading the equivalent of War and Peace - so I'll come back to some of them on other days.

Night, all. Sleep well.

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StormzyinaTCup · 15/10/2020 23:48

Evening everyone👋
Just popping in for a bit of cold pizza and a bit of a moan (sorry). Feeling royally peed off today with the state of things currently. Can the MPs not just come together, just for once, and work as one for the good of the whole country instead of this constant point scoring? I agree with Zombie’s post regarding Andy Burnham, I want to believe that he is saying what’s best for Manchester but all I can see is just more political point scoring. Thank goodness we are not in a war situation as I think as a country we would be completely stuffed.

gcat interesting article and looks like we have reached stalemate.

Another one here saying I’m loving all these kitties names Smile

Going to pour myself a large 🍷 and sit in the corner with a support kitten and hopefully I will wake up in a better mood tomorrow.

realitychick67 · 16/10/2020 00:16

@thegcatsmother

We used to live opposite a house that had 4 MCs in Belgium - Chairman Miaow and Gandalf used to team tag them and the fur would fly. Chairman Miaow was often seen heading off in hot pursuit of a Maine Coon much bigger than him and would return victorious, with a trail of fur (not his) behind him.
I freaking love cats. Cats are why life's worth living. (Well, a few other things too, DH gets a look-in, but mainly cats. Grin)
SylviaGold · 16/10/2020 00:48

@LilyLangtrey Thank you for all the hard work you put in to keep us all ticking along together and for all the research you clearly do for the OTD.

As you know, I only joined the BC in the last couple of months of MC. I had no idea that a lot of you were already conversing together on MN yonks ago (now is that a northern saying? We also say 'for donkeys years' meaning a long time).

I love that you have kept this club going so long despite several quick change of venues! Would you like us new regulars to give you our email addresses via pm so that we can always ensure we can keep in touch if venues close down or if we all get chucked out of somewhere unexpectedly? I am happy to do so to 'future proof' myself.

I also love your authority! You are kind, firm, but very fair. I imagine your previous career has shaped this part of your character. I don't mind being sent off with a flea in my ear if ai have stepped out of line. That is far better than being sworn at, personally insulted, or just kicked out with no explanation. People like to know where they stand. Like children (and cats) really! Clear boundaries!

ZombieFan · 16/10/2020 00:55

Just stuck a couple of frozen slices of bread into the toaster, for bedtime toast.

Stupid me, trip switch has gone and I am in the dark. When will I learn!!!

ZombieFan · 16/10/2020 00:56

People like to know where they stand. Like children (and cats) really! Clear boundaries!
Agree, but also have to laugh at that lol

SylviaGold · 16/10/2020 01:05

@Nelllyyy sorry to hear about your beloved cat. They have a Maine Coon at another local cat rescue. He is one their 'resident cats' (they have 80 who live their permanently), which are cats that no one has adopted, those that elderly, or those with complex medical needs that the rescue pays treatment for.

The resident cats are spoiled rotten. They have a huge cosy lounge with loads of beds, hammocks, igloos etc. They also have a conservatory full of play equipment. Some resident cats just roam around the grounds accepting tickles from passers by.

Before COVID, you could ask to go and see the cats in their lounge. You could sit down and tickle as many as you liked. Some elderly ladies used to go every day for company. The volunteers used to make them cups of tea whilst they sat with all the cats. Sadly, this source of comfort has been pulled from beneath them. These ladies still donate ££££ of food every month. Such lovely, kind ladies who love every single one of those cats.

The rescue has just moved their charity shop to the rescue centre itself as their little high street shop was deemed too small for social distancing. Well, it is so lovely to visit! There are always three or four cats walking round the charity shop area who love a tickle. An elderly black cat called Rodney was there on my last visit. What a sweetie he was.

I sponsor one of the resident cats - Jimmy, an elderly black cat who bites Shock. It is only £12 a year but 'Jimmy' sends me a letter every three months to tell me his news. It is sooo sweet.

SylviaGold · 16/10/2020 01:06

*there

SylviaGold · 16/10/2020 01:24

@ZombieFan That happens to us every time we use one side of the four slice toaster! No idea why! So, we stick to the right hand side to avoid a black out. Even the teenagers know what to do now if the power goes off when making toast...cupboard under the stairs...flick all switches back up. And let there be light!

ZombieFan · 16/10/2020 01:54

[quote SylviaGold]@ZombieFan That happens to us every time we use one side of the four slice toaster! No idea why! So, we stick to the right hand side to avoid a black out. Even the teenagers know what to do now if the power goes off when making toast...cupboard under the stairs...flick all switches back up. And let there be light! [/quote]
LOL, first world problems eh?

Now where the heck is my torch?

LilyLangtrey · 16/10/2020 05:41

Morning, everyone!

Thank you, Sylvia, for your lovely post. Much appreciated. I am afraid, though, that I am really quite a private person and try to stay internet-safe so it's probably not a good idea for me to collect email addresses. I'd have to disclose mine in return or my emails would go straight to junk, and I get very nervous about that idea. Not all of my former, erm, clients have either forgiven me or forgotten me Grin

We are in touch now on here, though, and I am glad that so many old friends have found us.

I have been rather distracted with Dizzy - he is very clingy and unsettled at the moment, to be expected - so although I enjoy writing the OTDs because they mean I am learning too, they have been a little perfunctory the last few days. Apologies for that. Even at this ungodly hour, he's trying to push the tablet off my knee so he can snuggle his way in.

OTD to follow in a minute. Kettle's on if anyone wants to join me for a brew ☕️☕️☕️

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LilyLangtrey · 16/10/2020 05:44

Morning, Clunkers!

On this day in 1555, Bishops Hugh Latimer, in his 70s, and Nicholas Ridley, in his 50, were burnt at the stake for heresy. The definition of heresy at the time? Being Protestant during the reign of Mary I, devout Catholic, and not pretending to shed their beliefs. Perilous times. If they had managed to fly under the radar till Elizabeth I ascended the throne five years later, they would have been fine. Catholics, though, not so much.

In 1847, Currer Bell’s novel, Jane Eyre, was published in London. This was, of course, the pseudonym of Charlotte Bronte, eldest of the three Bronte sisters. All three chose male names because:

Averse to personal publicity, we veiled our own names under those of Currer, Ellis and Acton Bell; the ambiguous choice being dictated by a sort of conscientious scruple at assuming Christian names positively masculine, while we did not like to declare ourselves women, because – without at that time suspecting that our mode of writing and thinking was not what is called "feminine" – we had a vague impression that authoresses are liable to be looked on with prejudice; we had noticed how critics sometimes use for their chastisement the weapon of personality, and for their reward, a flattery, which is not true praise.”

They weren’t wrong then. It’s a moot point whether they’d be wrong now.

Charlotte was last to die of all of her siblings, almost certainly of hyperemesis gravidarum, the complication of pregnancy that affected the Duchess of Cambridge. She was just 38.

In 1869, Girton College, Cambridge was founded by Emily Davies and became England's first residential college for women. Emily made a pact with her friends - Elizabeth and Millicent Garrett- to improve the lot of women, then regarded in law as mere chattels of their husbands. Elizabeth would become the first woman to qualify as a doctor; she did and we know her as Elizabeth Garrett Anderson. Emily would improve educational opportunities for women; she did. And Millicent, being the youngest, was tasked with women’s suffrage. We know her as Millicent Fawcett and she kept her promise too. What a remarkable and inspiring trio of women they were. We owe so much to them.

In 1974, three prison staff were taken to hospital and dozens of prisoners were injured after rioting and fires at the Long Kesh Maze prison, Belfast.

In 1987, Southern Britain began a massive clear-up operation after the worst night of storms in living memory. BBC Weatherman Michael Fish never lived down his forecast. “Earlier on today, apparently, a woman rang the BBC and said she heard there was a hurricane on the way. Well, if you're watching, don't worry, there isn't!" he said.

In 1998, Ulster Unionist leader David Trimble and the SDLP leader John Hume were jointly awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for their part in forging the Belfast Agreement signed in April earlier that.

But today we celebrate the birthday of our favourite peer, Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne. Happy 79th birthday, Emma. Here’s to you, and also to you, Charlotte 🥂

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MoreHippoThanPenguin · 16/10/2020 07:12

Thank you so much for the OTD Lily!

I have just finished a good 90 min writing, so will put the kettle on and settle down for a short break to read today’s history with a hot tea. What a treat!

I see we do keep the same hours this week Smile

BakedCam · 16/10/2020 07:13

Clunkers,

Good morning, thank you Lily for the OTD. The Bronze sisters were so young when they died. I have a tiny little space in my heart for Haworth in't Yawkshire as my mother and I spent happy memories there. She loved there and the Lake District.

Happy Birthday to the incredible woman that is Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne. ❤

Hope for a good day for you all. I have the builders back again this morning.

BakedCam · 16/10/2020 07:14

Bronte

Oh for an edit button.

AnneKipanki · 16/10/2020 07:33

Morning.
Thanks for the OTD , Lily .

Zzzzzzz

lifestooshort123 · 16/10/2020 07:58

Good morning all and thank you Lily for the OTD. A bit confused here today as we live down the road from Essex and we're trying to work out what's allowed and what's not. My daughter and grandson live in that fair county but fortunately we are her bubble. She's just phoned me in a very dismal mood 😞😞😞 oh dear, kettle on I think.

OVienna · 16/10/2020 08:04

Great OTD. Thank you Lily!

Autumngoldleaf · 16/10/2020 08:07

The gcat, another great article thank you, although reading it, makes me feel soooo frustrated.

It was pointed out that us leaving without terns, means they get diddly squat fishing rites at all!

I'm really hope they are prepared to walk away I will really do.
I cannot fathom how on the one-hand macron can be so respectful to thier old war ally, then so rude the next. How utterly patronising.... The British chose this, we didn't!!

Actually... We never chose to join the eu in the way it turned out thanks. What an arrogant man!