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Bereavement, coping with it and talking about it

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WideWebWitch · 10/09/2002 10:39

As discussed on the other thread I thought I'd start this for anyone who wants to talk about how they feel.

My Dad died on 18 May 2001. I've never been bereaved before and it was and is hard. We were close. Most days I'm ok but when it hits me, it really hits me and is sometimes completely out of the blue. Something will start me off like hearing a song he used to sing or realising that I have some of the same mannerisms. Or feeling sad that he's not here to share a significant event (my sisters' wedding, ds's first day at school).

People say that bereavement is like a roller coaster (cliche I know, but hey, sometimes we need them) and for me that's true. I don't think you ever completely recover, you just learn to live with it. I'm going to stop now since I was fine today but am choking up writing: it's never far from the surface is it? Not looking for sympathy here though, just realising that I don't want a down day as we have friends staying atm. Cam and Batters, your situatons sound sad too. You can't preview in create conversation so apologies in advance if this is littered with errors.

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Bobbins · 18/09/2002 22:15

It hurts such a lot!!!!

Bobbins · 18/09/2002 22:19

Like losing a limb, and still feeling the extremities tingling.

bells2 · 19/09/2002 08:03

Triplets, Matthew's poem is amazing - what an extraordinary boy he must have been.

ScummyMummy · 19/09/2002 08:22

So agree with Bells. What a brilliant poem Matthew wrote, Triplets.

Clarinet60 · 19/09/2002 09:54

I agree too. He must have been very perceptive and sensitive. What a lovely thing for you to have to keep.

Batters · 19/09/2002 12:29

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Scuba · 19/09/2002 15:01

Just wanted to say I think there are a lot of brave people and kind people here. Bobbins looked at your reports earlier Harvey's a real stunner, dh made me switch pc off because I couldn't stop crying. The poems are wonderful. Although my mum died a long time ago when I was a child I just wish she was here to see her grandson.

wilmaflintstone · 19/09/2002 15:17

Totally agree Scuba.

AnnieMo · 19/09/2002 20:18

Triplets, I just wondered if you have any special ways of telling your triplets about their brother Matthew. I want my youngest son to grow up knowing all about the brother he never met. We have put together a photo album of his life and have both written his 'story' , ie our own personal memories of him and our times together. He is only 16 months but already when he pick up photos we make sure he knows who everyone is - Alistair is still part of our family even though he is not here any longer and we want to make sure he is part of ds's too.

sobernow · 19/09/2002 20:28

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triplets · 19/09/2002 22:55

Hello everyone,
Thank you all for your lovely messages about Matthews poem. When Matthew was born I secretly had wanted a little girl, but after having a threatened miscarriage with him, I just wanted a healthy baby so didnt mind. Then as the years went by and no brother or sister came along, we just thought, "ok, we are lucky, we have Matthew". Then he died and our world was empty. To my knowledge I had never said to Matthew that if I had ever had a daughter I would call her Rebecca, the name I always had in my heart. So when I read the poem again three days after he died, it was really only then that I thought it strange. The John is his best friend, they were at school from the age of three together. Anniemo, I havent got around to writing Matthews life as you have, its a lovely idea. We have always talked about Matthew to them since they were born, the other day Rebecca found a very old photo of us with Matthew and she just said "thats Matthew isnt it?" They do all often mention him, often now they ask me things about what we did together, did we take him to places they have been to etc. We have two holiday videos of us in 1991 and 1993 in California, in some ways I want to put them on, to show them Matthew, let them hear his voice, but I havent watched them since before his death, and I dont feel I am ready to do it yet. I know that I would cry, and I dont want to do that in front of them. I think like everything thing else I have learnt in this painful experience, I will know when the time is right, its not right yet.
When I was pregnant with them I never chose to know what sex they were, everyone thought it was going to be two girls and a boy, in my heart I wanted two boys and a girl. We decided on names quite easily, and said that if there was a little boy amongst them then the first born boy would be Thomas Matthew Peace. Well, miracle of miracles the first baby born was my so wanted little girl, Rebecca Anne Peace, next a little boy, Thomas Matthew Peace, and last another little boy, James Alexander Peace. As soon as the family saw them everyone said the same thing, "oh Anne, its just like looking at Matthew".That was Thomas, he is the image of his brother, blonde hair and beautiful blue eyes. Now James could have been born second and he would have been the first born boy, and he would have been called Matthew, and he has dark brown hair and dark brown eyes! So its strange. Thomas I have to say couldnt be more different in his nature, you certainly know that Thomas is about, and hes not very studious! Matthew was very quiet, sensitive, and loved to read and study. The other thing that has happened is that Thomas sometimes comes out with some very strange things, once when he was about two and a half, he woke up crying at 11pm, and was very disturbed. I picked him up and cuddled him and asked him what was wrong. He said that Matthew had been and showed him some spiders and that he was frightened of them, but he said he then told him not to be, and that he would look after him. Who knows? Though he is no longer here, I know I have four very special children, and that I am a very lucky woman, though the pain of his death is not so strong now, my love for him is, and ever will be. Love to you all and all your children xxxxxx

Ghosty · 20/09/2002 00:08

Triplets,

You write so beautifully I can't help but fill up whenever I read your posts. I think that it is nice to think that Matthew is watching over you and your little ones.
You are a very special lady,

Lots of love,
Ghosty

sobernow · 20/09/2002 12:35

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Mooma · 20/09/2002 16:54

Triplets, thank you for posting Matthew's poem. What a thoughtful, sensitive boy. We have had to keep my late FIL alive for our children, and even though it is over 11 years since he passed away, he is a very real part of the family for them. My eldest writes to him when she's unhappy.

triplets · 20/09/2002 23:09

Hi Mooma,
They are still a part of our family, and I am sure that they do watch over us and hopefully guide us along. There have been times when I have hit rock bottom, but I hold on to the hope that Matthew has just gone on ahead of me and that one day we will be together, what a happy day that will be.

Bobbins · 25/09/2002 12:55

Dear all,
Sorry I haven't been posting and have had some of the messages on this thread removed. Things have become even worse over the last week. My (ex)partner got paranoid about our story being plastered over the web. I thought this was nonsense but to placate him I asked for any messages which identify our whereabouts/real names to be removed. I don't want any reproach from this from him.

Clarinet60 · 25/09/2002 18:05

I understand, Bobbins, and send loads of love.

triplets · 25/09/2002 21:54

We are all thinking of you Bobbins and send you all our love xxxxxxxx

Utka · 26/09/2002 13:47

Bobbins

I'm so sorry you're having such a tough time of it. I can only imagine how you are feeling, but wanted to help in some way.

At the beginning of the thread, counselling was mentioned - have you thought any more about it? It sounds like both you and your ex partner need some sort of practical support. I know that during a period of depression I found it most useful to talk to someone completely outside of the problem.

My father is a Relate counsellor and my MIL an ex-Cruse counsellor (specialising in bereavement). Talking to them over the years, I've learned that people react to crises in so many different ways. Some feel so overwhelmed by grief that they try to numb things by doing everything to excess - whether that's drink, drugs, clubbing, shopping, eating - you name it! It sounds like your partner tried to cope in that way - maybe because it's less easy for men to show their emotions - I think someone else posted something about this. By blanking out the weekends, it may have been easier to manage the time when he wasn't at work, with other things to occupy his mind.

Often, the person you need the most support from in these situations is precisely the one who can't provide the support - they just don't have the emotional energy to do so. I'm amazed at your strength in being able to be so open and supportive of others given what you've been through, but I think you're unusual!

Please, please, please give some thought to talking to someone who can offer you both professional support. It's best if you can go together, even if this feels impossible to start of with. Harvey was and is your child, and IMO it will be difficult for either of you to be able to move on, whether separately or together, until you can grieve together for what you've lost, and remember together what you had and still have.

Hope this helps

Bobbinsa · 09/01/2015 05:20

I waited. Fat lot of good that did me. Now about to turn 44. Pfrrt. As the kids say - fml!

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