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ITALIAN mums out there - franca etc

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eastend · 11/02/2007 22:10

DS is sick, what would a good Italian mum cook for him? First time he is properly sick, I need to cook him something, even if he might not eat it...

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Ellbell · 20/05/2007 22:39

How old is she Pippi? I know it's tough, but I think you probably have to just 'brazen it out'. If she sees that you're not upset, then she will gradually stop being upset too. Not that I am any kind of expert, LOL! We are now having trouble with dd1, who reads for half an hour... and then usually gets up another couple of times most nights saying she can't sleep (when what she really means is that she wants to read some more of her book). I can't be mad, because I'm really happy that she loves her reading so much. But she's only just 7, so I can't have her up half the night reading, or she'll be a disaster at school the next day. Boh!

I will be thinking of you tomorrow and hoping it goes as well as these things can.

Btw, I got the poems from a book called 'Staying Alive', which I think is a really good anthology.

PippiLangstrump · 20/05/2007 22:59

ellbell she'll be 2 in July !! am I asking to much from her?! I probably am, I think I have done so since the day she was born (my mum agrees). Luckily I have been blessed with a very reasonable child, at times she seems more mature than her mother for sure!

It's just that sometimes when you are really tired you just cannot wait for the child free evening to relax and I just cannot take one more minute of thi. especially when I have given my blood and soul all day - see, I am the unreasonable: have I not realised yet that a child is forever???

franca70 · 20/05/2007 23:05

ciao! I think you are doing everything right pippi, and like Ellbell said she doesn't seem too distressed, otherwise she would cry the house done. I think I told you already that dd went through a similar stage (she was probably 2.3), but she'd cry and cry, and I didn't think it was all right to let her cry for so long and that there was probably something that was indeed upsetting her (I think she was having her first nightmares). So, we adopted a longer routine and after I said good night I stayed outside her room and tell her it's all right I'm here, etc. It lasted I believe less than two months? boh, I can't remember! It also helped to have a last thing to do before it was night night for good, I bring her a glass of water...
sorry this was long.
I'll think about you tomorrow

PippiLangstrump · 20/05/2007 23:10

thank you girls.

Ah franca have you seen the travel section of this sat guardian?? about le eolie e salina in particular??? Oh I feel sos tupid for not having booked there!! You could see the little house we stayed on (at the very top of the hill)!

oh never mind! next year definitely!!

Ellbell · 20/05/2007 23:13

No, Pippi, I don't think you're being unreasonable. A lot of kids won't cry at this, or will just whinge instead or try some other strategy ('just one more kiss','I'm thirsty', 'I need a wee', etc.). I don't think she's trying to manipulate you by crying. I think she's genuinely sad that it's time to say goodnight. But I don't think she's really distressed either, it's just that crying is (for now) the only way she has to express that she doesn't want this lovely day with her lovely parents to end. Does that make sense?

She needs to sleep and you need to relax. It's not unreasonable at all, so don't beat yourself up about it. I think you just need to tell yourself that this is just 'one of those things that she does' and wait for it to pass.

E poi... le bimbe (magari anche i bimbi, ma non saprei) sono per sempre, ma i modi in cui ci fanno impazzire variano di tanto in tanto...

You sound like a lovely mum, with a lovely dd... ((()))

PippiLangstrump · 20/05/2007 23:20

lol at the strategy... oh yes she has got one! since she has learnt to poo in the potty and loves all the attention and praise she gets from it when she feels the moment for me to leave has come she tells me she needs a poo. and sometimes she pushes so hard not to look like a liar that some mini mini bit comes out! bless!

your diagnosis is spot on! she is genuinely sad!

franca70 · 20/05/2007 23:22

Pippi, you are entitled to youre evenings!
Haven't seen the travel section, I always try to make the saturday edition to last me for the whole week (different sections require a different setting: family and travel at breakfast, the magazine when I have a bath, etc etc). Don't talk about Eolie. We are not going this summer, and I feel sad. It's not the most comoda of the holidays, but to me it's the most beautiful place in the world, and the children love it.
Just watched a weird movie, the history of violence (by david cronenberg). Don't know what to make of it.

franca70 · 20/05/2007 23:23

haven't seen the travel section yet

Ellbell · 20/05/2007 23:28

Pippi.

My point was (I wasn't very clear when I said that i modi in cui ci fanno impazzire variano di tanto in tanto) that soon she will have a different strategy... one that is less distressing for you than crying (like my dd wanting to read her book till midnight... which is kinda cute, but still annoying in the end).

I like the poo story. Yes, it's amazing how many times my two can do a wee in the hour after bedtime if they really try!

PippiLangstrump · 20/05/2007 23:31

the magazine is always for the bath!!
family section and money for sat/sund breakfast with pancakes. travel is for when I can.

haven't seen that movie. should I?

PippiLangstrump · 20/05/2007 23:33

that's why I mentioned it! sorry. which island do you normally go to?

BTW can you survive next winter without a vacanza`al mare?

franca70 · 20/05/2007 23:35

uhm, not sure about the movie. However I'm doing this dvd renting by post (I'm doing it with tesco, thanks to a lovely mntter, btw ) and it's great to catch up on the incredible amount of movies I missed in the last 5 yrs and to watch some oldies as well. I dorecommend it!

franca70 · 20/05/2007 23:36

salina. I'm not sure I can survive, no. We are going to Tuscany, but it's not going to be the same kind of holiday.

PippiLangstrump · 20/05/2007 23:39

I promised myself we'll go next year - DH has never been! But with a, hopefully, newborn it might prove a challenge. But I'm at my most adventurous with a baby as if I have to prove to the world that I can do everything like before. we should go at the same time. it'd be nice.

franca70 · 20/05/2007 23:45

you could come at ours! Only problem is, that, with ds at school, we can only go on holiday in August [angry}, which isn't the best time to go to sicily with a newborn...

franca70 · 20/05/2007 23:46

un sacco di errori faccio! time to go to bed, methinks. Night ladies. Pippi, mi raccomando tomorrow

PippiLangstrump · 20/05/2007 23:58

night night to you too. I am off to bed as well if I can drag DH away from some police-crap programme.

thanks for tomorrow. will let you know.

I have a couple of days DD-free as she's off to nanny till thursday. bring it on evenings in the pub with DH like the old days!!

(didn't understand that you have a place there! you'll have to tell me more as DH wants to buy a property there).

mediterraneo · 21/05/2007 12:53

Che gelosia! Al pub ci voglio andare anch'io!

mediterraneo · 21/05/2007 19:58

Ma che siete andate tutte al pub? Domani torna il bel tempo!

franca70 · 21/05/2007 21:41

No, I'm here med . But I have to work tonight. How are things for you, are you feeling a bit better?

PippiLangstrump · 22/05/2007 20:11

ciao a tutte. super stressed tonight about this house move. one minute we thought we lost it all and made my mind up. next minute everything was fine with our vendor and our buyer starts being all funny. I've had enough!!!! DH and I feel like saying to everybody p**s off!!!

sorry for rant but really fed up! had a few drink as well with DH (DD away with granny) which did not help my killer mood!

franca70 · 22/05/2007 20:38

ciao pippi, moving houses is so stressful! we moved when dd was 8 months old... meno male that my mum came to help. She was great, but we ended up arguing where to put things away . Me and my mum have this huge outbursts, which are usually quite cathartic, we make p after 5 minutes. Mother and daugher relationships can be very complicated
How did the funeral go? how's your dh?

PippiLangstrump · 23/05/2007 07:18

you don't sat franca. DH and I went to bed so early yesterday we were so stressed! I must have had a million nightmares about this all thing.

the top of the chain demands to complete on the 31st which is fine by us, but out buyer now says it's not possible and wants to delay it a week. which I am not sure they'll agree on and also it is a bit touch and go with us because of course we are going on hoiliday on the 10th.

aarghhhhh

mediterraneo · 23/05/2007 11:00

I am fine, off to Barcelona in June and then Italy. Can't wait!
I almost had a nervous breakdown when we bought our flat!

Rosa5 · 23/05/2007 13:28

Ciao all,
Well hectic here with Dh working all hours and computer playing up . Well I have just been and booked flights so we will be in the UK June 27th HURRAH ! For some stranno reason flights 1st week of July were so expensive. Also BA won't let me book the returns so we will just have to stay ! Well its CALDO CALDO . The zanzare are out in force here as well its not nice.
Auguri for the house settlement it must be so frustrating.
I must do some lavoro ....or the accountant will shoot me.