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stupid b*tch

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Yorkiegirl · 03/11/2006 13:41

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arfishymeau · 03/11/2006 21:15

. That is unforgiveable YG. I would have been incandescant with rage. How utterly thoughtless. At the very least they should have apologised. I am so sorry that you're having to deal with this, it's the last thing you need.

Yorkiegirl · 03/11/2006 21:32

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buktus · 03/11/2006 21:35

Oh yorkie , and thats his mum

Yorkiegirl · 03/11/2006 22:24

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jofeb04 · 03/11/2006 22:28

YG, have some time away from the family, just you and your girls. I can't believe they would do that to your girls plants and bulbs.

Feel very for you, and very as well

lucy5 · 03/11/2006 22:29

how could anyone do that to a child?????????

xena · 03/11/2006 22:35

I can't belive them what a bunch of tossers. I'm so sorry you have this to deal with as well

ALoudFireworkScaredMyBadMouse · 03/11/2006 22:44

Oh, Yorkie, my love - I'm SO sorry

RobertCatesby · 03/11/2006 22:49

Isn't there enough unhappiness. How very, very sad that they do this to you

oops · 03/11/2006 22:49

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SherlockLGJ · 03/11/2006 23:07

I would get some top soil delivered to the grave...............OMG did they dig the old stuff out first....how very dare they...and in the new top soil would it not be the most amazing thing........if the most amazing meadow flowers sprung up..............as if from nowhere.

Gingerbear · 03/11/2006 23:31

Oh YG So heartless of them, did they not think of DD's reaction? Obviously not. Does DD1 know what has happened? Have you told MIL how upset she is? My knee-jerk reaction would be to lay a huge guilt trip on them, but my head tells me you should put some space between you for a while and let things calm down - or would it eat away at you?
Concentrate on the girls and forget them - enjoy the weekend and planning for DD1's party.

SSSandy · 04/11/2006 11:02

Really don't know what you can do about it, what would be really good advice but I think two things are important:

  1. It's ok to feel furiously angry about this and not want to rise above it. There is a time and place for everything in life and 3 months after your dh died is not a time for magnificent stoicism. Your emotions have a right to come out. How you do it (even if its just here) has to feel right for you so I don't know where you go from here.

  2. Steer clear of people who are trying to alleviate their grief by hurting you. I think they hurt inside and they're dealing with it somehow by hitting out at you. Drop them like a stone, they can find their way back into your and dds' lifes at some later point.

I don't know what to do about the grave. You could remove their plants, rake it over and try to replant more or less what dds had there. Will you tell SIL/MIL, if you do? Will you do it officially in writing? I think if you leave it be, everytime you go there, you will feel angry TBH. It really isn't easy, is it? And you could really do without all of this.

Is MIL avoiding your dd because they remind her too painfully of her ds?

Was MIL decent to you and the dd before Nigel died?

GunpowderTreasonAndSNOT · 04/11/2006 11:08

Oh YG you don't need this.

It's unbelieveable that they would do this to a little girl. I know they are grieving too, but still. It's shocking.

You have been amazing, you have coped so brilliantly for your dds despite how overwhelming it must be. I hate to think of this causing you more grief.

We're all thinking of you.

monkeymonkeymoomoo · 04/11/2006 11:21

Yorkie - I don't know what your Ils are like but when my DH died I found that his family (and friends) didn't want to know anymore. Turned out that I was a painful reminder of everything they had lost and seeing me bought home the fragility of life etc. Plus people didn't know what to say or do (oh and paid for all the bills too, don't think it occured to anyone that some help might be nice!).

I was a member of Widowed and Young (WAY) - a national support network for those widowed under the age of 50 - which I found helped tremendously. Much of what you have/are experiencing seems to be rather common unfortunately. Grief should unite but instead a young death seems to create divisions.

monkeymonkeymoomoo · 04/11/2006 11:26

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jabberwocky · 04/11/2006 11:27

So sorry, YG

I agree with the other posters about putting some space between you for now. Anything to reduce some stress in your life would be for the best, imo.

gothicmama · 04/11/2006 11:31

YG so sorry this happening nothing of use to say except to send you my love

kimi · 04/11/2006 11:42

So sad for you and your DDs.

I think that as his wife and children you have more right to say what goes on his grave then his mother and sister, as he chose to marry you and he chose to have children with you.

If it were me (although i am a self confessed bitch) i would tell them to take a running jump, not let them see the children and remove anything they put on there.

Yorkiegirl · 04/11/2006 16:22

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Naughtynoonoo · 04/11/2006 16:31

So sorry that they are treating you this way, its all you need on top of what you have / are going through at the moment.

BATtymumma · 04/11/2006 16:52

OMG YG that is shocking.

the Grave issue is just beyond words. i understand that they are greiving and want to do something for him but what they feel must be nothing to a young girl who has just lost her dad.

it doesn't matter what caused them to remove the bulbs you placed, or whether it was done in spite or not. what matters is the attitude they have shown to you since.

anf as for a 15 year old to start being rude to you, im sorry but that is so incredibly wrong i would phoen his mother and inform her that she should spend less time interfering with yoru family and concentrate on dishing some respect out to her own!

how vile they all sound.
honestly i am so on your behalf.

witchscatsmother · 04/11/2006 17:03

If your nephew (son of SIL ?) is calling you names, then presumably he's heard those names from his mother ? ...... or at least heard that you've upset her.

You know what, it strikes me almost as if MIL & SIL are jealous of your natural position as "chief mourner" (for want of a better expression). Hence them destroying - 'cos that's what it was - not just digging up, something which a little girl had carefully and lovingly doen for her dad.

This is all so sad ..... that people are "vying" for position in an imagined hierachy of mourning. Put more bluntly, it almost comes across to me as if they are saying we are more important than you, we were his blood family. Completely ignoring the fact of course that those little girls are blood family too.

It's never nice to lose anyone you're close to and I know that a lot of young deaths do hit parents hard because there's this assumption that you'll probably die before your child but, fact is, on a day to day basis, before his death, your husband was most involved in your life, that of his chosen wife, and the daughters he willingly chose to have with you. Practically (and I don't mean to ignore the emotional side by saying this) your husband probably played very little part in the day to day lives of his mother and sister.

So, of course they're grieving .... but their lives are not going to be daily affected by his death in any way near approaching the impact it's had on yours and your daughters. Given that, and even though they're grieving, I think their behaviour was monstrously insensitive, rude, arrogant (you name it). Grief should NOT excuse you being horrid to other people .... especially those hardest hit.

Yes - it's a family place, but it's horribly arrogant, IMO, to make permanent (well, semi-permanent, 'cos plants can always be dug up as you have found out to your cost) alterations to a grave without first discussing it with the widow - that's just basic manners to me. Tending the grave is different - placing flowers or cutting grass.

If I was you, and assuming I hadn't already lost my temper with them, I would write a short, polite but curt, note asking them to leave all planting on the grave alone unless they have sought your permission beforehand. If they then get even more arsey I'd remind them of your legal entitlement in the matter ..... but why oh why you should have to be dealing with such insensitivity at all is beyond me. If you are already a considerate person, you don't become inconsiderate through grief.

stleger · 04/11/2006 17:06

I can't add anything more than more crossness! My brother died a few years ago, in a similar way to your dh - from the word go I was more concerned for his wife and family (small ones and teenagers) than my own feelings. I am no saint, I can't believe their thoughtlessness.

aweebitgross · 04/11/2006 17:15

YG.. The effing B!!! How fucking dare they?????? WHO do they think they are to have the right* to go in and do stuff to his resting place???????

Sorry, I am so angry on your behalf.. sitting here crying with rage (Sorry name changed for something else and haven't yet got it back)

Stay away from the c*nts! Let them get in touch with you