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scarredpierced · 2013-04-11T09:19:00+00:00

How many of us actually meet Shona's little sidekicks criteria? She states that all of us on Mumsnet are in our 30s, living in London and have a degree. How many people here meet that criteria? How many are popping prozac depressed at the shit life we now have with kids? Damn that woman is nasty!

ComposHat · 17/04/2013 17:06

I agree, the posts are directed at Xenia's posts and aren't gratuitous personal attacks. I think there's a difference between describing a post as stupid or ill informed and describing the person who made them in those terms.

Xenia · 17/04/2013 17:55

People who descend to silly comments simply show how wrong they are and how much more likely to be right am I. They often help other posters make their mind up about which point of view is much more likely to be the correct one.

ComposHat · 17/04/2013 19:23

People who descend to silly comments simply show how wrong they are and how much more likely to be right am I. They often help other posters make their mind up about which point of view is much more likely to be the correct one.

For 'silly comments' I assume you mean anyone who disagress with you, or puts up evidence which demolishes some of your more questionable statements.

scottishmummy · 17/04/2013 20:28

I love when a raver turns,bolds,mumps,moans
Selectively decides what they comprehend,funny how they grasp who agrees
And anyone who doesn't concur is dismissed,naturally

TiggyD · 17/04/2013 20:31

But writing in bold means you are absolutely and positively right!

Lizzylou · 17/04/2013 20:33

Xenia, I am sorry for being flippant but if I had produced a well thought out post with the old Mn favourite Empirical evidence outlining why your post was wrong, would you have addressed that? Pondered on it and perhaps concurred?

No.
Compo did and she was ignored.
Twas ever thus.

ComposHat · 17/04/2013 20:42

Jesus Christ in a Datsun Sunny scottishmummy do we have to go through all this again? It is like Groundhog Day.
It will pan out like this.

You posting gibberish
I fail to understand said gibberish
You post more gibberish in response.

Repeat until one of us gets bored/loses will to live.

For the record, I don't selectively chose what to understand, I genuinely cannot understand what you write. This is because it is appallingly badly written and employs a 'less is more approach' to punctuation (apart from Commas which are haphazardly dotted throughout the text).

I?m not a raging snob who's looking for perfectly constructed sentences, but something that looks like like written English as most of us use it, so I can engage with you and fathom whatever point you are trying to make.

scottishmummy · 17/04/2013 21:30

Compos for one who claims not comprehend my posts,you seem to have enough to dismiss
You've have understood enough to tell me how much you dont understand,funny that
It's quite funny,in a bulgy eyed way.I await your retort and bit bold for emphasis

Maryz · 17/04/2013 21:43

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Xenia · 17/04/2013 21:52

By silly I meant the reference to the anus.

I suspect M I have not said of an individual that point. That's simply because I don't tend to post in a personal way. I might say - more fool women who choose to live off male earnings (which of course we all know is true but some chose not to work hard at school and made bad career choices so they are stuck keeping a man happy or living in relative poverty), but am unlikely to say of a particular person a comment addressed to them.

However, I am sure when I post statements which hit home if they have an impact that is because I am bringing home to that person their own mistakes and hopefully that will help them ensure their daughters do not replicate them even if it too late for that hapless non feminist person who thought it made sense to rely on male earnings.

scottishmummy · 17/04/2013 21:53

What an asinine post Mary.see you too are recalling mn gripes who said what
frankly,traipsing up posts,recalling mn gripes is really lame and juvenile
I fear the recommended head banging has already affected your judgement

Sparklingbrook · 17/04/2013 21:57

Yay. I have sons. I am exempt.

ComposHat · 17/04/2013 22:12

Could someone help me out? I Am I being think or arescottishmummy's posts are impossible to make sense of?

Why are you so fixated with my use of bold type? Like a lot of posters on here, I use bold when I am quoting other people (Mumsnet doesn't have a quote function like a lot of websites) - or when I reference a previous poster.
It makes it clear who you are responding to. But then clarity isn?t something that has unduly detained you. The problem isn?t just the poor standard of written English that you use on this site, but that the thoughts expressed are seemingly nonsensical.

Let me take your previous post and see what I can make of it. Be warned I will be using bold...so watch out!

I love when a raver turns,bolds,mumps,moans

The bold bit I imagine is a reference to my use of bold in previous posts, but I can only tell that because it obsesses you so much.

Raver? As in a fan of rave music or in the 1970s sense of a ?bit of a goer??

Mumps? As in the childhood illness?

If I had to take a wild stab in the dark I would say it could mean that:
You love ravers (of either variety) so long as they don?t moan.

A rave music fan has the mumps and is moaning about it, but you think it is funny?

More to the point, what has all of this got to do with anything?

scottishmummy · 17/04/2013 22:14

see on mn homepage that dm has issued correction and clarification to ms sibary article

An article about Mumsnet last week said that the site receives 25,000 posts a day and that members typically live in London. In fact it receives 35,000 and only 17 per cent of members are Londoners.

The article may also have suggested that bullying behaviour by its users could encourage suicide.

We are happy to clarify that no suicides have ever been linked to Mumsnet and that its members offer valuable support to those in distress or suffering mental illness.

TolliverGroat · 17/04/2013 22:33

I wonder if I could go onto one of the breast cancer threads and make a post about how women really should be more breast-aware and how foolish it is not to be. I'm sure if it hit home it would be because I was bringing home to that person their own mistakes and hopefully that would help them ensure their daughters do not replicate them even if it too late for them. It's almost my moral duty to do it, really.

TolliverGroat · 17/04/2013 22:34

BTW, are lesbian SAHMs "non feminist" or is it just heterosexual ones?

Maryz · 17/04/2013 22:54

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mathanxiety · 18/04/2013 05:31

There is a time and place for every opinion and launching into your spiel about 'sponging off a man' and the reasons a woman has for doing it at the point where someone's life has fallen down around her ankles is possibly neither the time nor the place. Not just because it smacks of kicking someone when she's down but because the WOH vs SAH ship has well and truly sailed by that point so the preaching is rather pointless.

scottishmummy · 18/04/2013 07:33

Essentially is this is seeking to admonish or comment on pov not liked?
So what if someone makes same post 50-500times?does the herd get together to complain
whilst one not not concur,it's a given that there range of pov on mn,that's what make it vibrant and enjoyable

exoticfruits · 18/04/2013 07:40

I don't think that people change their minds, if they can't understand that people are really happy looking after their children and they just want to make enough money to be reasonably comfortable they will keep on trying to brainwash them to think it wrong.
We are all different- I can't see why there isn't room for all.

scottishmummy · 18/04/2013 07:46

I've stridently debated on mn,and yes I express a consistent pov 50-500times
There been laugh out loud,and shake head moments when I've disagreed
And been disagreed with
I however will continue to post my pov as much as chose and i Expect others to do so too

exoticfruits · 18/04/2013 07:58

Xenia always has the same message- so much so that I miss her if she doesn't see the thread! I will always put the other point of view,whenever she does. Neither of us will ever change! However I don't think we need to give up posting.

Sparklingbrook · 18/04/2013 08:57

I would love to see Xenia on some of the fun threads, and her views on other topics.

skippedtheripeoldmango · 18/04/2013 09:23

Ok, Xenia...while you irritate me to no end - often - a lot of the time I actually do agree with you. Aim high, work hard, don't sell yourself short. It's all good advice. But it's advice offered in a vacuum - meaning that it's completely sterile of life and its quirks. I did aim high, I did work hard (selling myself short....that one follows me around a bit) but I wasn't lazy....instead I became ill and that snowballed into other things. Sometimes things happen that set people back, sometimes those things are insurmountable and you just have to make the best of it.

You are obviously smart but I cannot fathom how you can continue to speak the way you do without at least acknowledging that even with the best of efforts sometimes things just don't work out and perhaps give a nod to people for at least bloody well trying instead of making out that they are a complete and utter bloody failure.

UptoapointLordCopper · 18/04/2013 09:57

It seems obvious to me that everyone (mostly) should aim high and work hard. I don't think anyone disputes that in general. What is obviously flawed is the idea that aiming high and working hard necessarily will result in lots of money and a successful career and lovely happy successful children. Even assuming that we all have the same definition of success and happiness.

If anyone knows of an algorithm that will take high aim and hard work as input and correspondingly output success and happiness then I'll pay good hard-earned cash for it.