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what are your feelings on the MMR jab??

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doodypud · 24/03/2006 08:01

My DD has an appt for her jab on the 3rd of April, i am still really concerned about the possible links with Autism, has anyone else had concerns or any bad experiences?

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getbakainyourjimjams · 28/03/2006 22:33

sorry should read is now seizure free.

marialou · 28/03/2006 22:37

At the time the hospital said it had nothing to do with the mmr but my dr said it was. She only had 2 fits so I guess I was lucky but as the fits lasted 4 mins I had to be taught how to give her rectal diazapam. (very nice)

expatinscotland · 28/03/2006 22:48

well said, jimjams. i couldn't agree more.

Tortington · 28/03/2006 23:42

so if they are harmless diseases why are we vaccinating against them? surely there is no decision to make?

lockets · 28/03/2006 23:45

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Tortington · 28/03/2006 23:51

why?

Socci · 28/03/2006 23:58

Well, that is the question isn't it custardo. I suppose if you have faith in the authorities you will believe that they have our children's interests at heart. However, I am rather more cynical and I feel it's a complex issue with some conflicts of interest. I feel that if the children were the most important thing then there would never have been mercury in paediatric vaccines, but I have banged on enough about that before...

spidermama · 28/03/2006 23:58

There's a great deal of money to be made from peoples health fears.

There are well documented complications which can occur from the diseases we vaccinate against but they are far rarer than we're led to believe.

Also the medical establishment has a mission to gain herd immunity against relatively harmless as well as more serious conditions come what may.

I wouldn't mind, but the vaccines don't even work half the time. During recent measles outbreaks, for example, the affected children have been vaccinated.

spidermama · 28/03/2006 23:59

... that should say had been vaccinated.

Chandra · 28/03/2006 23:59

I don't know why Custardo, but I see my nephews, who were vaccinated and have one or two 1/4 inch scars each, and DS who didn't have the vaccine and has more than a hundred at his chest, and I think it may be for aesthetic reasons...

Tortington · 29/03/2006 00:01

got this from the bbc

Measles causes death in up to one in 2,500 cases.

It is also associated with meningitis and encephalitis - inflammation of the brain.

Warnings about the potential for measles outbreaks have already been issued in parts of London where the MMR coverage rate has dropped to similar levels.

Two years ago, an outbreak in Dublin claimed the lives of two children and left hundreds more hospitalised.

Mumps complications include inflammation of the pancreas and damage to the nervous system.

In pregnant women, rubella has a 90% chance of damaging the foetus and babies can be born blind, deaf, with heart problems or brain damage.

lockets · 29/03/2006 00:01

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Tortington · 29/03/2006 00:02

\link{http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1742177.stm\bbc article}

the full article - so you can read the full story to form your own opinion

spidermama · 29/03/2006 00:03

I have just ordered \link{http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0892819316/qid=1143586928/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-0565193-3141413\this} because I like the writer and didn't realise she had written on this subject. I'll report back when it arrives to anyone interested.

Socci · 29/03/2006 00:04

well, I tend not to be swayed by media reports. The facts about how many children have actually been vaccinated are skewed because those who've had single vaccines are recorded as not having been vaccinated at all. But hey, if the government doesn't support something it doesn't exist. Very worrying imo.

spidermama · 29/03/2006 00:05

Custy you have to look at the figures in terms of who it causes death to. If my child were malnourished or weakened in some other way I might just consider it. These are global figures and completely out of context in a western setting.

Tortington · 29/03/2006 00:13

the bbc was misleading? should i complain?

Socci · 29/03/2006 00:16

All journalism is weighted - there is no such thing as a report that is the absolute unbiased truth.

I am sure that when the war in Iraq was going on the reports that came into our living rooms were only a small part of what was actually going on...and were an angle that our government wanted to see.

Socci · 29/03/2006 00:17

wanted us to see

Socci · 29/03/2006 00:18

Also - you will notice that that particular BBC report uses the word "contraversial" in relation to MMR which shows the journalist who wrote it does not intend to have a clinical and unbiased approach.

Socci · 29/03/2006 00:19

sorry controversial - I can't spell today.

lockets · 29/03/2006 00:19

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Tortington · 29/03/2006 00:23

ahh therefore no matter what research i produce its worthless - yet you chose to make a choice based on something?

i think you can afford to make the choice not to vaccinate your child becuase the majority of people have vaccinated their children, therefore rendering the risk to your child minimal.

i also think that if there was no blanket policy and suddenly only the very rich could immunise their children becuase they could pay for it whilst those that couldnt faced the possibility of sterility and deafness and death and other complications - meningitis etc. it would indeed be a different story.

i am glad my choice afforded you yours.

lockets · 29/03/2006 00:25

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