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Harpie I didn't temp so not sure when I OVed. Likely to be minimum 10dpo on Thursday.

Minipie we've ttced on and off since December, but this is probably only the 3rd or 4th month of actively trying. I'm not impatient yet, no.

Do you want to borrow the Persona monitor Quod?

Ahh that's really kind Harpie and I might take you up on it in a couple of months if that's OK? Does it help you work out when you OV? I've got a reasonably accurate picture from charting but my OV can be anywhere from day 16 to day 21!

It certainly worked for me! I'll post it to you. I've got a spare clearblue digital pg test you can have as well.

Problem with charting is it only confirms OV, it doesn't predict it. I almost always ovulated on CD19 until the cycle I got pg when it was randomly CD15.

Just dropping in quickly to say I need to have a baby girl right now so I can dress her in this! :o

Wow that's gorgeous!

It's a shame they don't do it in DDs size! I could just about get her in a 18-24 mnths one but they don't do it!!

Will do proper, non self indulgent, post 2moro when I'm not on my phone!

Harpie, what are you going to do about booking appointment?

Bebe that is quite cute :)

Quod, hope you have a good weekend, enjoy it :)

I'm über dizzy and feeling faint still, but only been sick 4 times altogether since I found out I am pg, so that's much better than last time.

The tiredness is a killer though. Especially when someone wants to get me up 2 or 3 times a night!

LAHG I have moved it to 23 January - it's at a more convenient time as well: 2.30pm, instead of 11am. I'd have had to take the whole day off work.

Yes I wouldn't fancy keeping those hours at the moment! I'm sleeping 8 or 9 hours a night atm and still almost dozing off at my desk by 11am!

Met with an independent midwife today. She was nice but I'm not sure about using her. She was very right on about natural birth and very anti epidural. She was talking about the cascade of interventions and I said I wasn't aware of any research having definitively proven causation re epidurals and C sections and I had read other opinions saying the two things may just share the same underlying cause and what did she think? I expected her to explain why she felt there was a causation link, because I'm sure she knows a lot more about it than me, but she didn't, she just repeated more insistently what she'd said about the cascade of interventions. I would never do that to a client and it made me feel a bit uneasy.

If you don't feel totally OK with her don't use her, I'd say.

Yes that's what I think. I've got my NHS appointment coming up soon anyway so I'm going to wait and see how I feel about that. I think I might look into hiring a doula, because I'm really only worried about having someone stay with me.

Harpie it sounds like she's not the woman for you! Do you mean 23rd July for booking in?

LAHG thanks - our first big show was a success yesterday, I was really proud of it. Finally the non-stop work is ending! Definitely couldn't have done this pg - on thursday I worked a 17hr day after 4 hours sleep!

Saw my sis yesterday who has suddenly got huge! Her bump was still really neat when I saw her two weeks ago. My mum who is staying with her (she's attending the birth) reckons it could be any day. Soooo exciting! I can't wait to have a little newborn niece to cuddle.

Yes 23 July. Still a long way off being "really pregnant"! I wish I could tell my sister on her bday but I want to wait till we've had the first scan.

So exciting about your sister. You must be beside yourselves with anticipation! New baby snuggles will be lovely.

Good lord you should hear MIL's plan for my antenatal treatment and the birth! I'm not to see any midwives, except for blood tests, etc as they don't know anything. I'm to see a private consultant instead and he (because it will definitely be a man) will be The Top Man (as defined by MIL's GP). This heroic figure will attend the labour in his white coat and will personally deliver the baby. He will be particularly concerned because my advanced age means this baby is particularly precious (not like younger women's babies which presumably are more or less disposable)... And I needn't worry about being left on my own while labouring (good of DH to share my worries with his mother because either my mum or she will be there with me! Yes cause that would be an ideal substitute for a midwife! Also I'm not to give birth in water because the baby might drown!

MIL sadly had several miscarriages and two stillbirths and had severe preeclampsia before DH was delivered prematurely by cs, so her situation was quite unusual and I can understand where she is coming from in a way but a private consultant obstetrician and a highly medicalised birth isn't exactly what I was hoping for and I've no idea how to negotiate a compromise.

OMG Harpie that's all a bit extreme!!

I guess that unfortunately she's going to anxious and worry whatever you do, even if you implemented all her solutions. TBH I don't think you should be trying to negotiate a compromise - it will be YOUR birth, not hers, and the most important thing is that you are happy with the choices you've made. What does DH have to say?

DH says I can have whatever I want, and he likes nothing better than to have a furious screaming row with his mother (and vice versa) but I've told him they can get their screaming row kicks over some other issue.

Ideally I would like a home birth but I had thought a hospital birth with an independent midwife or a midwife led unit would be a good compromise to keep MIL and DH happy, and to ensure that if anything does go wrong I am not blamed for the rest of my life. However it now appears midwives are out.

I mean who'd want a professional birth attendant who is a highly trained and qualified expert in childbirth and who delivers babies every day to deliver their baby?!

She has already made an appointment with her GP to find out what private consultant packages are available and to get a recommendation of the Top Man. Unfortunately the consultant she had has retired, otherwise I could have had my baby delivered by a 90 year old man!

Wow she is LOLs.

She is contriving to bump into her old consultant in the local fish and chip shop, as she has occasionally seen him there. She keeps going down there at different times of the day in the hope of eliciting from him the name of The Top Man.

Ooh harpie you're going to have your work cut out there! Remember it's your birth, if you don't want her or your own mum there ou don't have to, but you could obviously drop hints for a early private scan, if she wants to pay for it, say at around 9 weeks pg

LAHG that sounds good but she doesn't really have that much money. She wants to sell an old and very special piece of family jewellery to pay for the private consultant.

What's your birth plan this time around?

Harpie can talk to her rationally and explain that, while you very touched that she cares so much for the safety and wellbeing of you and the baby, you have it under control. You have researched carefully what your options are. You will be speaking to your own HCPs. And you will do what is best for you and your baby because you are a adult! I understand that she had a difficult time but passing on her anxieties is good for no one!

Oh gawd can't I just pretend I'm seeing a consultant and it's working out quite cheaply, but really see the midwife?! [hopeful]

It's not so much the conflict now that worries me, it's the potential backlash if anything goes wrong if I haven't done as I'm told. Equally I can't do it her way because if anything went wrong I'd blame myself for agreeing to something I wasn't comfortable with just to keep the peace.