The fourth WIIT thread travels far and wide, with tales of new adventures to share.

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Hello Ladies,

Here is the 4th WIIT thread for our enjoyment.

Stats will have to follow at a later date, as I can't check back to see where everyone is accurately at the moment.

Get posting and lets see where this thread takes us. :)

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Didn't mean to be all depressing and scare you all off!

I've snapped myself out of my black mood & am feeling a bit better today. (Despite DD not letting me have a lie in!) :)

AC - If your DH is looking at prams I'd say not all hope is lost. Maybe get him interested in all the geeky techy stuff, Dad's like that I've been told (mine is not interested but think it's a money thing!!)

Made some scrummy, healthy(ish) muffins with DD this morning so am off to indulge in one of those! :o

Bebe your logic is so sound I can't understand your DH's shortsightedness at all. Realistically a baby's not going to make much difference to your household budget for a good couple of years from now is it, if you've still got all the stuff? Are you still avoiding the subject?

Thanks for the offer of the OV sticks - that would be lovely if you don't want them (not sure how they work?) I'll pm you my address.

Muffins sound lush!

Yes offer still there, all the instructions are in the packet. (doubt you'll get through all of them before the end of March but at least some of them will get used!) Just let me know where to post them too etc :)

Muffins were super scrummy, sort of made them up as I went along. Wholemeal cinnamon banana honey muffins, yum!

Am still avoiding subject with DH. Things are worse than ever in his work situation so he'd probably completely lose the plot if I brought it up now! Can't avoid it forever though, just need to build up to it again. And yes, we do still have everything...not sure why!

Oh god those muffins sound divine. I don't normally crave sugary things but I really am at the moment! Dunno if it's because of the running but I feel hungry much more than usual!

Managed 2 miles straight running today (no walking) in 25 mins, hurrah.

Just had a protracted conversation with DP about coming to my parents house together to dogsit again next month (this is where I currently am, alone, hoping OV stays away for another 2 days til I get home), and clearly I have managed to make him feel like a pair of bollocks. I think it might have been the phrase 'but we're not going there to have a holiday, we just need to be in the same place that week so we can have sex' Oh dear.

Bebe sorry to hear your DH's work is still not looking up. 'Everything will work out well in the end, if it hasn't worked out well yet, it's not the end'.

Right, back to work for me - my Friday night is trying to write 5000 in the same room as a very old very farty dog, bleugh.

Oooh it's quiet in here! What has everyone been doing with their weekend? Mine has been in writing lockdown purgatory with company of very old dog.

On the plus side I don't seem to have OVed while I'm here, so hopefully I'm taking my as-yet unpopped eggs back to DP tonight. Oh the things that make us happy these days. I wish I could follow that advice of, oh just relax and have fun for the first 6 months of TTC, don't bother charting etc etc, but I just can't - it's not in my nature not to know something if I can know it, even if knowing it makes no difference!

I'll be just the same Quod I'm sure!

I ran 2k on the random uphill gradient today, in 15 minutes. Was feeling quite pleased with myself, but I see you beat me!

Oh and good luck tonight!! ;0)

AC, how are things going on now? Seems mad, one minute he is saying no children, the next he's looking at prams and watching a programme about children!

bebe, sorry you are feeling massively broody and that it's hitting you now again.

SPR, I've felt the same at times posting in here, but I think we've all grown together as friends and are happy for each other at our respective stages, but I did feel bad posting about my choice of 'contraception' for the time being.

Quod, you are welcome. Glad it worked. Well done on the running :)

Well, LO is now unable to be left anywhere, she's doing this caterpillar wriggling thing now, feet on the floor, bum in the air, push forward and launches herself, she's going after all her toys now and is off the mat in a matter of minutes. It's very lovely, but now a new set of challenges await me and OH. I'm still really enjoying it.

Got to go just now, but I'll be back later

Things are going crap. The new job is not going well, I am really struggling. If this job doesn't work out, I guess there won't be any TTC for a while

Aw 100, love the idea of your speedy caterpillar daughter.

AC, oh no! Can you say (without divulging too much) why things are crap and you are struggling? Could it not be just the 'hard period' at the beginning of a job where you have to make headway/learn stuff/prove yourself to a silly degree?

My advice of course would be not to index-link the TTC to a job if that is in any way possible. Easier said than done of course but there are always ways and means as my sis is discovering. Hope you feel better about things soon.

We here Chez Quod are eating wholemeal banana muffins courtesy of Bebe's recipe which she kindly sent me and I would like it to be formally known to the whole of the internet that they are indeed lush. Mr Quod is in agreement.

On the TTC front here I think unfortunately we missed the boat this month - MrQ was asleep when I got home from my folk's place on Sunday night, and the next morning my temp went up meaning as I understand it that the ship has already sailed. Have been getting some insurance jiggy in anyway but I think it'll be a futile 2WW for me. Ah well, next month I have Bebe's OV sticks as a fortified line of attack - and I am trying to think of it currently as, well, if I'm not getting pregnant, I'm going to use the time to get really fit, which is at least keeping the old endorphins up - ran 2 miles straight yesterday! It's amazing how quickly you can go from puffing and panting to the next tree to running quite comfortably, I never thought I'd be saying that.

100 - How cute! It was always hilarious trying to watch DD figure out forward motion! How old is E now? I always think of 4-6months as the golden time with DD. They just seem to grow so fast & change every day. :)

AC - Like Quod said, is it a settling in phase thing or is the job not all you had hoped? I'd also agree that hinging TTC on job situations is not always the best course of action! (Says she who is waiting, supposedly , for DHs work situation to improve!)

Quod - Really pleased you liked the muffins! :) Maybe I should write a recipe book! :o Fingers crossed anyway for 2ww!

Nothing much happening here. Same crap as always!! Onwards & upwards....

AC, hugs for you. Care to share, anything we can help with. Is it like Quod said the initial settling in period or is it more than that?

Quod, let's hope you didn't miss the boat this month, insurance jiggy is good though Well done on the 2 miles, it's nice to do a few miles when you can :)

bebe, she is nearly 20 weeks, she'll be 20 weeks on Friday. :) So 4 1/2 calendar months. She's so at that not quite able to do things and gets frustrated, but so cute in what she is able to do. She can move about, but it's hard for her, but she is a determined little soul :)

I got AF last week :( Bum, I thought it would be a bit longer before she struck again considering I am EBF, but I did drop my expressing, so I think dropping that has been like dropping a couple of feeds, which I know can bring back your periods. I have no idea if I am ovulating, but, at least I have a better idea if I were to get a BFP I would have an idea of when it happened :) I suppose I'm kind of TTC again now But that is not information I'm sharing with the general public, only in the 'relative anonymous world of MN' So no sharing this on FB or the like please :)

Went shopping last week and managed to buy almost a whole new wardrobes worth of clothes :) I have managed to put the clothes I was wearing pre pregnancy and during pregnancy in a vacuum bag (in case I were to get pg before I lose a load of weight) and I now have nice new clothes and not ones that are too big, because I was a lot bigger pre pg than I am now. It was really nice. Now I need to buy some new knickers, as I am wearing what my OH calls 'kids knickers' they are basically shorts with lots of cutesy things on them like sheep and paw prints, apparently they are neither sexy or adult, I like them being not adult, but I'd like to have a little air of sexy about me, and him not to roll his eyes when he does the laundry - which to be fair is more than I do! But can I find any I like at the moment, NO

OH had his run last night, I might go for mine tonight! Might though, not definite.

Ha ha 100years I wear the exact same kind of thing! DH has never complained!

I've just bitten off more than I can chew with this job, they know it and I know it - but neither realised at the interview stage, which I really hope they believe. I am finding it really hard tackling such a steep learning curve. Sometimes been asleep by 9pm.

I agree to some extent about not tying TTC to career issues, but it's DH you'd need to convince of that, not me!

Good news about AF, isn't it? More likely you are fertile again? Can't believe how keen you are for DC2 - it's lovely.

Thanks for the big hugs, Bebe, sorry to hear you're still in the crap so to speak.

Quod you may be beating me on the running but you will soon slow down when you are diffed and then I shall come sprinting past you!! Sorry to hear its unlikely to be this month.

AC, sounds like you need to conserve your running energy if you're tackling steep learning curve at the same time! Sounds really exhausting. Is there any kind of flip-side way of looking at it? Eg, that you're really stretching yourself now but will end up in a better place than you expected to be? Can you see things being easier in 3-6 months, say? Is there any kind of plan of action you can get in place with your employers to support your steep learning curve? Obviously if you're in a different place for both of you than anticipated, then they should be as keen as you are to make sure that their recruitment choices succeed in the long run.

AC, the knickers are fun, but in all honesty I've had them about 4 years now! So they are really due for retirement! Plus they fall down a little now as I was wearing them at my biggest. Yes, I did see it as a good thing that AF has started, but I really didn't want one at all, I've asked OH to try and help me not have another this year... Bed early isn't a bad thing, in the short term, do you think you will get through it and learn stuff as you go, sometimes things look hard and very difficult to do and as if you will never learn, but then something clicks and it all works right. Re the interview stage, is there anything in your defence (not that you need a defence) that would prove that you didn't realise it would be too big a step, like not all job specs written? I don't know, maybe I'm talking out of my arse?

But and I missed this out of my post, even though AF has been, I may not be ovulating yet, who knows, I'm not going to do temps, OPKs or anything like that, so I won't know at all yet. But it is more promising. And thanks.

I do wish the waiters in here could not be waiters anymore. I'd get a magic wand if I could.

I can't even contemplate TTC with this hanging over me, I couldn't risk anything affecting my performance. I'm already so stressed. I said this to DH, he was reassuring me we could still go ahead, it was a surreal reversal of roles!

Quod that's a really positive way of looking at it. Thanks.

There's a controlled crying thread in active convos at the moment (in behaviour/development if you're masochistic interested) which is putting the fear of god into me. There is simply no way I could be sleep deprived and keep my job at the moment. The women who are saying its all got to be 100% the baby's way, otherwise you are the devil himself, can't possibly imagine anyone's lives being different from their own.

AC - Do not panic! Not every baby is a bad sleeper! I don't think I was actually sleep deprived after the first 5-6 weeks.

Quod makes a good point, it could actually be beneficial in the long run. Is there anyway of discussing how you are doing with your employer?

Re Knickers...pretty much all mine are black, as are my socks! Not sure what that says about me?!

AC it's not doing you any good hypothetically disasterising something that might never happen. In a year's time you could be looking back at this really tough time at work with a totally new vantage point (and uite possibly an angelic quiet sleepy infant beside you.)
We can't structure our lives around worst case scenarios.

I think we have to, to some extent. I couldn't risk adding morning sickness to the mix now. And if I had a baby and it was keeping me awake, I'd have to do whatever sleep method allowed me to function, even if a load of other mums thought I was a child abuser. Mums are not a bit kind to each other.

I know what you mean. I think it can all get a bit out of control - I mean, for millennia women have had to somehow cope with crying babies and other pressures under far less ideal circumstances than we now do and not die of sleep deprivation in the process! I guess when it's your own child and your own circumstances you're going to feel one way about t and then back that position as far as you have to.
I'm also stopping ttc to avoid ms in my hectic summer period although have had to accept that what happens once conception has happened is finally put of my control. Scary stuff.

CC is not child abuse. You are right, Mum's can be so mean & judgemental, even to themselves!!

MS could be a pain, but then you don't know if you'll even get any. You could be one of those women who don't feel ill at all!

Don't start falling into the 'worst case scenario' trap. That's DHs problem. 'If you were as sick as last time' 'If you had a bad labour' 'If you have a relapse after the baby is born'. These are things beyond my control & things that may not even happen. If I lived my whole life around this I'd never leave the house, I mean, what if I got hit by a bus?! Understand it is probably very different for me as I am self-employed & don't have the high pressure job. But I am probably one of the most negative of people you would ever meet, I really need to make an effort to be optimistic! (I know we all need to plan a little, just don't let it be the deciding factor)

Is there no glimmer of light re things calming down & falling in to place at work?