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Hello Ladies,

Here is the 4th WIIT thread for our enjoyment.

Stats will have to follow at a later date, as I can't check back to see where everyone is accurately at the moment.

Get posting and lets see where this thread takes us. :)

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Thanks for my 'cake' Quod! That must have taken a while?!

I'm still quietly seething about the crapness of my birthday. Granted we have hardly any money right now but DH made no effort at all.

Had a very bizarre dream about all of you guys last night! Find it weird when you dream about people you only know on MN in real situations!

Would post more but the kitten is attacking my laptop!

Hi all

Bebe, that's really shitty that your DH made no effort for your birthday. Especially with how supportive you are being to him at the moment. I hope that you are feeling a bit better now (((hugs)))

I'm laid up in bed having just fallen down the stairs and landed rather awkwardly on my big toe. It hurts like hell and looks a bit wonky but hoping it'll go down soon, otherwise its a trip to A&E :(

DH gave me that "you muppet" look which only made me cry more...., bloody hormones!

How's everybody else? It's really quiet in here at the moment isn't it?

Oooh Quod, you counting cycle days, shame it's not for TTC. How was (is) paris?

WW, it's all exciting getting the baby stuff isn't it :) Enjoy the fact that LO is all warm and cosy and happy in there, I know it's hard, but I was really chilled at the end and enjoyed the last few days. I miss the kicking.

bebe, sounds like a shite day for you :( have some flowers from me, I know they are supposed to be thanks, but we'll call them flowers for now. And I did say you would have the best birthday cake.

SPR, sorry to hear about your fall. Do you feel alright other than the toe?

Well, I've had a few days where I have felt a bit off and tearful, had a massive blub yesterday morning and evening, but feeling a lot better today. Hard to describe what's happening or why I feel like it. I'm so happy with LO, she's really good, and doing some amazing things. I think occasionally the disturbed nights just make you feel a bit glum and sometimes it takes a cry and a moan about it to get through it.

We've been swimming today, it was fab, she really likes being in the water, had I not had an episiotomy I would have gone sooner with her.

Started to do more exercise and have joined slimming world, although I've only had one day (out of 3) where I have followed the plan to the letter, but I'm scoffing less cake and bread so there is a difference to what I'm eating. I'm still loads lighter than I was when I got pregnant. Basically I was x stone 2 when I got pregnant, lost 2 stone with HG and only put back on 13 lbs, lost that and some more after birth, so I'm currently x-3 stone 10 so that's 2stone 6 lighter than I was when I got pregnant! I still have a good few stone to lose, but there was a time when I was x+3stone, so I've come a LONG way. I hope the numbers make sense, I don't really want to say the numbers at the moment.

Hello everyone! Just quick as I am supposed to be sprucing up my house before my grandparents arrive. Just spent a good hour composing a ranting post on AIBU in response to all the people who trot out the "if you're not sure you want a baby, then for the good of the child, don't do it" advice, which I hate. I love children and I'm patient and nurturing, I would provide a wonderful life to any child I did have. Just because I sometimes wonder if the better course in life for DH and I lies elsewhere, doesn't mean I should desist for the good of the child. Harumpff!

Quod that is a super virtual cake! Sorry you had a bad birthday, Bebe. If it makes you feel any better, I bought my own present (DH bought his own present two weeks before), made my own cake, and on Saturday evening when I was expecting to be taken out, DH went out with a friend instead, leaving me in with the cat and said "it's not your birthday until Monday anyway". Men, eh?! I'm not at all bothered about the cake or the present but I was a bit miffed to be passed over on my birthday weekend when it wasn't even a big lads night out. I did get a bunch of flowers and a card though.

100years I guess you can expect to feel emotionally overwhelmed sometimes, so much is going on and its all so huge and incredible and nothing like anything you've experienced before. They say you have to mourn the loss of your old life, even as you are enjoying a wonderful new one.

Whywait thanks for the birthday wishes. The spa was heavenly - just what I needed. And so wonderful not to have to sit there fretting about work.

Oh shit SPR I totally missed that you had a fall, are you ok?

Heya

I'm fine toe bruised and still a bit sore but I can move it now so all good. What a numpty!! I'm clumsy at the best of times and PG eems to be making me even worse than usual!

AC sorry to hear that you also had a bit of a dissappointing birthday. What is it with the WIIT husbands at the moment?? Gad hat the spa day was lovely though and hopefully the people ranting about parenthood haven;t upset you too much. Idiots!!!!

WW I can only imagine how impatient you are to meet your little one. Will keep everything crossed that he arrives safely very soon and that you don't have yet another December birthday!

100 you are doing brilliantly with the weightloss and seem to have taken to motherhood like the proverbial duck to water. I am sure that everybody has a weepy day now and then. Don't forget that there are still a ton of hormones rushing around your body and they are bound to have an impact.

Have pretty much done all my xmas shopping/making (other than for DH) and so today I went into town to get wrapping paper (feel so organised this year!!!) and have been wrapping up gifts. It's crazy but this is our last free weekend of 2011 and we're got family staying next weekend so the pressies need to be wrapped before being hidden in the spare room!!

Can't remember if I said but DH and I have booked a holiday for the end of the month to take advantage of the fact that we are both currently not working. 10 whole days of sunshine (hopefully) and relaxing - think it'll be a while before we have a holiday like that once Mini arrives!!!

Hope that everybody is having a lovely weekend.

Thanks everyone. Been feeling heaps better since the other day when I had a proper blub and spoke about what had been bothering me. I feel fab about how I'm doing with E, and how she is coming along and have no worries about how to take care of her, I think I had just let the disturbed nights bother me.

AC you know people are like everyone will have really strong opinions on things on here and as it's fairly anonymous people feel that they can say a lot more in a stronger way about things. I wouldn't worry about what the "if you're not sure" brigade say, it's good to think these things through properly.

WW, at most you have 3 wks and 2 days left now :) That's really not long in the grand scheme of things. :) And I'm a December baby myself, it's fine Thanks re the weight loss. I'm not worried about how quickly the rest comes off, I just want to take charge and not have the weight I've lost go back on.

Thanks SPR, yeah loads of hormones rushing around and I was a bag of hormones pre pregnancy anyway! Well done on getting your christmas shopping done :) Glad your toe is OK.

Just been out for tea with OH and LO, put her in the sling and she slept through the whole outing. :) Trapped my finger in the pram unfolding it yesterday, it is a bit bruised and hurts now, but it's not broken or anything daft and I didn't break the skin :)

Think I might nip into town tomorrow to see if I can get a couple of pairs of trousers. I'm still wearing my maternity trousers, but that's only because the rest of my trousers are all too big and fall down, whereas the maternity trousers have a bit (which should go over a bump) that is high enough to tuck into my bra and therefore not fall down. It's not a good look when I don't have a top on. I also need some new shoes.

Other than that I don't really have much to report.

Hi everyone

Sorry to have gone AWOL for so long. Partly because I now usually go on MN on my phone, and it takes AGES to type anything, partly because work is horrendously busy, and partly because ttc is pretty much the last thing on my mind at the mo, being as I am in a very co fusing place relationship-wise. Am enjoying reading about everyone, but if I'm not around much that's why!

Thanks for all the love you guys! WW you made me cry!! (In a nice way obviously! )

SPR - Glad you are ok, silly billy!! No more falls please! Sounds like you have a very busy time ahead of you? Loving the organisation. I'm feeling quite behind this year. My presents are usually all bought & wrapped by the first week of December but I've had other things on my mind! Where are you off to on holiday, somewhere lovely?

100 - Glad you are over the wobbly. I think it's perfectly normal to have down days. I still have days where it all just seems a bit too much & a good blub is really helpful, even if it doesn't fix things! Have a :)
Well done on all the weight loss, all that bfing must be helping too

WW - Try and enjoy your last few weeks of baby free-ness! And take it easy too, reserve your energy & all that! :o

AC - Maybe we should have a and comiserate with each other about our DHs 'approach' to birthday celebrations!! It's my 30th next year, I shall be arranging my own party no doubt!! Glad you had a lovely time at the spa though, not at all

MrsS - un MN just pop back when you need to, we are all still here to listen x

Had a chilled out sort of weekend. Made a slug costume (with optional shell/snail accessory :o) for DD. (Don't ask!!) Have started making some clay heart for tags for DDs teachers & key workers & pre-school. Had a cheeky MaccyDs brekkie this morning which was a mega treat & just the kind of junk I needed!

My back is still agony though which is making it hard to get anything productive done around the house. Not sure the tablets the GP gave me are working. Had letter from physio saying I have to ring up & book an appointment myself. What's the point of a doctors referral if I have to book it?

DH still has 'man flu' & DD is still under the weather. If DH doesn't stop coughing every 30 seconds soon it may be kinder just to put him out of my misery!!

Anyways, need to turn a pair of DHs old socks into leg warmers for DDs costume...and watch Monsters inc! :o

Hello all!

Bebe I am really curious about the slug costume, I'm sure it'll be awesome.
100 sorry you've been a bit down - I think the tiredness is bound to get to you, I get really emotionally raw when I'm tired, definitely. Well done with your weight loss, that's so impressive. You should be really proud of yourself (and you definitely deserve a good shop!).

AC which AIBU thread were you ranting on? You put it very well upthread, it's such a hard sentiment to express the complexities of, and such an easy thing to have a knee-jerk reaction to. People just don't like admitting to or even hearing about complex and contradictory feelings in relation to children, do they? But actually it's such a complicated life-change and no wonder some people want to go round it very carefully from every angle, and will never feel 'certain' one way or another.

SPR arnica is good for bruising (ouch!). I am in awe of anyone who's sorted their xmas presents; I haven't done a single one and am actually still trying to sort birthday presents for my dad and DP (all next week). I think it might have to be a bit of a budget xmas from me this year as I don't have much work lined up in the first few months of next year at all.

MrsS, thinking of you and hoping you start to feel less confused soon.

We had a lovely time in Paris, although DP's friend (who we were staying with) has been quite seriously ill and is still undiagnosed, which was worrying. We had a few conversations about not taking your good health for granted, it's so easy to do, isn't it?

Quod - It's dressing up week at playgroup (for children in need) & DD wanted to be a slug....she's not your typical 3 year old girl! :o I'll try & put a pic on my profile later!

Glad you had a lovely time in Paris, must have been nice to go away with your DH?

DP sorry

Pic on profile of my slug!

Great slug! I love her unconventional approach to it all!

Yes it was nice to go away with DP...of course, he was primarily going for work and we piggybacked some holiday on the back of it. But I can't complain, it was v sweet of him to take me.

SPR a holiday sounds like a wonderful idea, and as you say it will be a while before you can have a long relaxing break like that again (gulp!) so you and DH should make the most of this time. This is my third week off work now after quitting my job, and it's been lovely for DH and I to spend some quality time together with me feeling relaxed and calm for once. These last five years I've been like a tightly coiled spring the whole time. Now time to get the Christmas shopping done!

DH and I take a very laid back approach to each others birthdays, we don't tend to make a big thing of it, so that was pretty normal. I was only annoyed when he went out for the night with someone else!

100years lol at your fashion concerns, it does sound like you need some new trousers! Maybe just get a replacement bump asap so you fit into the maternity ones - tee hee!

MrsSatsuma I hope you are ok, we do miss you posting. I'm so sorry your relationship isn't going as you'd like it, it's possible to work through these things, if it's what you both want. If you want to talk about it, we're here.

Bebe if you and I have a drink to commiserate one another on our DH's antics, it won't be about birthday celebrations! Mine is dragging his heels about the Big Trip yet again. I've got STA Travel holding our flights, waiting for DH to book the time off work, but apparently he can't ring his boss to ask for holiday because "if you ring specificially to book holiday, it looks like you're desperate to book a holiday". WTF? So now we're supposed to wait until DH's boss happens to ring him to talk about something else (which mustn't be anything "important") and then DH will casually drop it into the conversation that he wouldn't mind some time off in 6 months time.

For your 30th birthday next year, we will all do what WW suggested. By then we will be way overdue for a meet up, and there will be lots of babies to meet as well. Not mine though, clearly as I shall still be waiting around for DH to book holiday from work. WW that was a lovely post.

Quod glad you had a fun time in Paris but sorry to hear about DP's friend. Did the conversations about not taking your health for granted spill over into conversations about not leaving it too long to TTC and the passing on of one's genes to the next generation?!

Erm... can't recall the title of the offending thread. Will have a look in a moment. Today I have set the Gruffalo the task of restraining me from posting anything stupid on the "Third baby" thread. Must remember that people want their third and fourth babies just as much if not more than I want my first.

this one

I do wonder if the OP might be someone I'd recognise from the Ditherers or Waiting threads!

MrsS you can still come in here and post in here, even if you aren't thinking of TTC at the moment, we are as the saying goes In it together and that's through all stages of life, even if you aren't TTC anymore. :) I hope things are settling down for you.

Bebe, well the BF is certainly making me hungry, and therefore I am eating more, but it's the wrong kinds of things, hence why I have gone to SW to try and keep a check on it. Love the slug thing :) And sorry your back is still bad. :(

Thanks Quod. I hope your DP's friend gets a diagnosis soon.

AC yeah, I'll try for the bump but it might be a while. I have now got some new trousers though, so the issue isn't such a big one now. Oh FFS about it looking like your DH is 'desperate for a holiday' NO, it's just what normal people DO!!!

I think WW's idea of a day trip is fab. I would really like to meet you gals. :) If I were to think about organising something for say March time, would people be up for it? Mind you SPR is due in March, so that might not be the best time. May? Hmm. It's never going to be 100% convenient for everyone, but if we started to think about it now then we could possibly actually pull it off.

Anyway, I managed to go shopping on my own the other day, LO had a meltdown while I was out, but OH said I could/should do it again :) I got some trousers :) Yay.

LO has a poorly eye at the moment :( So I have to administer eye drops 4 times a day - yep that's easy with a 9 week old! Anyway she's doing OK with it.

We are going away for the weekend, Friday to Monday, up to Leeds, looking forward to that. :) Will see lots of friends, OH is doing a race and I will be taking LO to the pub after the race to meet up with loads of our running friends. I ran again last night, but my injury that I had before I got pregnant has not gone away and is hurting again today :( Boo :(

AC oh yes I saw that thread - a brilliant response from you, you put it really well. There's so much deeply illogical thinking around it all. I really identified with what Pacificdogwood said: "To me the OP sounded more like she wanted to have a family in principle, but had cold feet at the thought of it actually happening. She did not sound like she had doubts about whether or not having children was the right choice for her." I think that's how I feel at my less enthusiastic/more pragmatic times, if that makes sense.

Yes we did get around to the TTC conversation, or variants of, in Paris. DP said he has realised his feelings have changed over the past year and he can now identify a longing for children in himself, rather than thinking of it in a more abstract way, if that makes sense? So, a lovely thing to hear.

SPR whoohoo to your holiday! How many months will you be when you go (not that I'm trying to work out pg permutations around our overseas wedding at the end of may or anything....!)

A WIIT meet-up! That would be cool. Where though? We're all pretty spread about, aren't we?

A quick question for anyone who's flown long haul: is the only way to get extra legroom to pay double for premium economy? DH is refusing to fly economy for comfort reasons (he is 6'4") which has thrown an expensive looking spanner in the works.

You can always get in quick with the online check-in with BA etc and bagsy the seats upfront/by the exits if they're still free but it doesn't guarantee you a seat...which route are you considering flying? Some routes aren't that busy and you could end up with 3 seats to yourself.

Quod, that is lovely to hear from your DP :)

Never flown long haul myself so I don't know.

WIIT meet, instead of doing this in the thread where anyone can see and people might not want to say where they are living if you want to PM me and say where you are and how far you are willing to travel and I'll try and see if I can work out a good compromise.

Home alone tonight (and today) with pumpkin who has turned into a grizzly bum over the past few days. :( Proper melt down from her last night :( Hope she is calmer tonight for me on my own. I know I will be OK, it's just easier to deal with grumpy grot with someone as opposed to alone.

AC is your DH's expensive spanner the legendary Pedlar's £695 one by any chance?