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Teacher hit me

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AdaUserName92 · 12/09/2023 15:23

So my son just started nursery, he is 3 and this was his settling in week. Everything was going well until the last couple of days he done home and said his teacher and another senior member of staff hislt him and threw him. On those two days he came hone super angry and change in behaviour. I've withdrawn him from the school. Has anyone had such experience and reported to ofsted and safeguarding bodies? What was the outcome?

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adriftinadenofvipers · 12/09/2023 19:46

AdaUserName92 · 12/09/2023 16:50

Thanks for the interest. The question is very specific. It doesnt ask for opinions on whether my child is telling the truth or should I speak to the nursery etc. It also deliberately very limited in information so not here for the gossip. If you can't answer the question specifically please don't populate this post unnecessarily and keep your personal opinions to yourself as they are not wanted.

Shout out to the parent who reported another child being hit! We need more eyes like yours and not to mention bravery.

Sorry for all those little babes who need to persuade their caregiver before they get supported. Precisely why toxic cultures survive in these places!

How ungracious you are.

Pages and pages of experienced and mostly sensible parents giving you excellent advice, and this is your response? People did answer the question - you just don't like the answers.

Listen, do the world a favour and home-educate. Nobody deserves to have to deal with a parent like you. Good luck, because with that attitude, you are going to need it.

Hey, go full throttle. Report them all over the place; ring the police, whatever makes you happy. Let's see how far you get... If your kid is anything like you, I think I can guess who did the hitting.

Thegoodbadandugly · 12/09/2023 19:47

Captainmycaptain I agree with you.

FrenchFancie · 12/09/2023 19:50

In practical terms - instead won’t talk to you until you have been through the complaints procedure with the school or setting. Even then, they hold complaints on file and it may or may not trigger a visit. They don’t just swoop in and shut a setting down on the say so of one parent of a three year old.

in less practical terms - remember that a three year old does not always speak the truth - not that they are lying, but that they get easily confused between truth and their imagination. I’m not saying that this 100% did not happen, but on the face of it and without further evidence, I would be doubtful. Of course if your child came home covered in new bruises in odd places, there may be more evidence of something untoward, but it could still be a child, or an accident.

i work in a school - one of our reception children swore blind to her parents that my name is ‘Mrs Washing Machine’. To the point that the parent felt conpelled to double check with me. Needless to say, that is not my name.

Qilin · 12/09/2023 19:51

The government sites has clear instructions in what to do, in what order and the possible outcomes: www.gov.uk/complain-about-childcare

The first step is to report it formally to the nursery manager and arrange a meeting to discuss it.

If you believe that your child has been hit and thrown by two nursery staff then you should be reporting it to the police, in addition to the other channels. 999 if immediate risk, otherwise use 101.

If you don't get the desired or appropriate outcome from speaking to the nursery, you can then contact OFSTED who will review your complaint and then decide how to respond.

However, it impossible to say what they will do. It will depend on what they find out after reviewing your information and initial investigations.

Fourunderfourx · 12/09/2023 19:51

You need to report it.

If it was the other way around and he told them you hit him they would report you.

Children shouldn't automatically be dismissed as liars

Deathbyfluffy · 12/09/2023 19:53

HappyMeal564 · 12/09/2023 16:04

Ignore the posters saying it didn't happen, they quite obviously weren't there. Does the nursery have cctv they can check for you?

Neither was the OP, so by that logic… 😶

nunsflipflop · 12/09/2023 19:57

My now 30 year old, came home from nursery and told me that his teacher had taken him and 3 other children to Asda to buy the ingredients to make bird food. He could tell me who sat where in her car, even told me the make and model of her car (cars were his thing). He could tell me the ingredients they bought, described the lady at the till and who carried the basket. I asked him over the weekend to tell me again, his story never changed. My DM asked him, he told her the exact same story. I was concerned, although I had signed a consent form to allow them to take him out, I was a bit disappointed that they hadn’t told me.

When I dropped him off, I asked the teacher if in future they would tell me when he had been out. She had no idea what I was talking about! He had never left the premises, no bird food was made, and he had never been in any staff members car….. ever.

Never got to the bottom of it, we can only assume he had a really vivid dream and that was what he was retelling.

You need to speak to management and get to the bottom of this before you send him back.

Araminta34 · 12/09/2023 19:58

BananaSlug · 12/09/2023 18:10

All children should be believed. There was a case near me of a teacher hitting a pupil and she was sacked, it does happen!

This is a three year old. Of course they are always totally reliable and speak only the unvarnished truth!

MaryLea · 12/09/2023 19:58

Not quite the same situation, but at the other end of life I had a similar experience as a care giver. An elderly woman with dementia was obviously scared of one particular carer. On a night shift I witnessed the carer walk into the patient's room, grab her from sleeping and drag her into a seated position, and proceed to shout at her that she was stupid and lazy while trying to remove her wet pad. She then literally tore the woman's wet nightdress and cut it off with scissors because she was 'resisting' (as you can imagine the poor old lady was terrified). I went in and said I'd take over, spent a while comforting the poor lady (the other woman came in asking what was taking so long and set her off again.)

Anyway, I did write a report to the manager who promptly removed the woman while she was being investigated. She was on paid leave for over a year, going back and forth saying she was a victim of bullying and I was making the whole thing up. A lot of my colleagues gave me the cold shoulder (others backed me up and came out with evidence of their own, including the laundry room, who dated incidents of this ladies clothes being ripped and cut all coinciding with that particular carer. ) The woman was eventually struck off.

The thing is, the victim had been saying for over a year that this woman was bullying her. Nobody believed her because she had dementia. Turned out she was telling the truth.

We all have a duty to care for the vulnerable. So, despite what others say, you did good, OP.

1AngelicFruitCake · 12/09/2023 20:00

You need to be careful. Ofcourse listen to your child but speak to the nursery. I was accused of hurting a child, with the child’s description being so detailed it sounded believable. Only it didn’t happen. Luckily for me 3 members of staff were in the room with me during the time he said it happened. Very scary as to what could have happened if I’d been on my own. It was a shame because I put a lot of care into all of my pupils but I never felt the same around him after that because I couldn’t trust hed make something else up.

Wowokthanks · 12/09/2023 20:00

I would double check with DS what happened to be sure.
At 3 it really isn't uncommon for children to create stories. I'm not calling him a liar, but saying there is a possibility that he may have created a story, as my DD did, when I set her on fire, aged 3.

RagesOnForAges · 12/09/2023 20:02

@ParentingSolo sadly there are parents that behave like this.
A parent struck a teacher in a classroom when the parent was trying to assault an unrelated child and the teacher intervenes.
She was arrested.
Unsure of the outcome.
Whole class of 8/9 year old children freaked out.
Idiot. At least they make themselves known quickly so you can avoid them.

MariePaperRoses · 12/09/2023 20:04

My daughter Matilda came home and said the teacher had swung her friend around and the let go of her.

If it wasn't for the video evidence we would never have believed her.

tenor.com/en-GB/view/matilda-trunchbull-rolling-gif-7823204

Itslosenotloose · 12/09/2023 20:06

LMAO I remember my 3 year old telling me his preschool keyworker was kicking him in the corner. Said keyworker then pulled me aside and mentioned that my 3 year old had told her I had been kicking him in the corner 🤦‍♀️. Poor kid was getting kicked from every angle 🤣

Truffles15 · 12/09/2023 20:07

Your default position is that your toddler has been hit by two members of staff, and also thrown. You have to talk to the nursery. Extreme to immediately contact Ofsted when your first step should be to speak to the staff. No offence OP but your posts are making an assumption of guilt, and that is rather unnerving.

Vitriolinsanity · 12/09/2023 20:07

To answer your question you go to the website and look at the complaints policy.

You follow the procedure detailed.

You give the opportunity for investigation and discourse.

You make up your mind.

What I would advise you not to do is go all guns blazing before you follow this advice. The chances are very, very high that your DS's account is accurate.

Your call whether to withdraw him. What will you do if he says the same about the next setting, the one after that when he twigs he gets to stay with you?

7eleven · 12/09/2023 20:08

Fourunderfourx · 12/09/2023 19:51

You need to report it.

If it was the other way around and he told them you hit him they would report you.

Children shouldn't automatically be dismissed as liars

Sigh. Nobody has said the child is lying.

NewName122 · 12/09/2023 20:08

I witnessed a TA full on screaming in primary aged kids faces at pick up. Kids were crying. It was shocking. God knows what she was like when parents weren't there. Parents complained and they said she was going through a hard time at home and was stressed. So you never know.

hot2trotter · 12/09/2023 20:12

You clearly need psychological help.

Peacendkindness · 12/09/2023 20:13

NewName122 · 12/09/2023 20:08

I witnessed a TA full on screaming in primary aged kids faces at pick up. Kids were crying. It was shocking. God knows what she was like when parents weren't there. Parents complained and they said she was going through a hard time at home and was stressed. So you never know.

If I had witnessed such a thing I would have reported it and would not of worked there going forward if nothing had been done, did you report it?

Vitriolinsanity · 12/09/2023 20:13

NOT accurate

PorridgeOnToast · 12/09/2023 20:17

MaryLea · 12/09/2023 19:58

Not quite the same situation, but at the other end of life I had a similar experience as a care giver. An elderly woman with dementia was obviously scared of one particular carer. On a night shift I witnessed the carer walk into the patient's room, grab her from sleeping and drag her into a seated position, and proceed to shout at her that she was stupid and lazy while trying to remove her wet pad. She then literally tore the woman's wet nightdress and cut it off with scissors because she was 'resisting' (as you can imagine the poor old lady was terrified). I went in and said I'd take over, spent a while comforting the poor lady (the other woman came in asking what was taking so long and set her off again.)

Anyway, I did write a report to the manager who promptly removed the woman while she was being investigated. She was on paid leave for over a year, going back and forth saying she was a victim of bullying and I was making the whole thing up. A lot of my colleagues gave me the cold shoulder (others backed me up and came out with evidence of their own, including the laundry room, who dated incidents of this ladies clothes being ripped and cut all coinciding with that particular carer. ) The woman was eventually struck off.

The thing is, the victim had been saying for over a year that this woman was bullying her. Nobody believed her because she had dementia. Turned out she was telling the truth.

We all have a duty to care for the vulnerable. So, despite what others say, you did good, OP.

Utterly heartbreaking. My darling dad had dementia and stories like this rip out my heart every time.

Thank you so much for what you did for that lady. Thank you @MaryLea xx

Wouldyouguess · 12/09/2023 20:18

AdaUserName92 · 12/09/2023 16:50

Thanks for the interest. The question is very specific. It doesnt ask for opinions on whether my child is telling the truth or should I speak to the nursery etc. It also deliberately very limited in information so not here for the gossip. If you can't answer the question specifically please don't populate this post unnecessarily and keep your personal opinions to yourself as they are not wanted.

Shout out to the parent who reported another child being hit! We need more eyes like yours and not to mention bravery.

Sorry for all those little babes who need to persuade their caregiver before they get supported. Precisely why toxic cultures survive in these places!

What a bloody stupid response from you- have you or have you not spoken to the nursery about it? I think the nursery is better off without a batshit crazy parent and a kid who makes up stuff that can cost people their jobs.

Maybe your kid just did not settle well, didnt get his way and was angry, not that staff were chucking him against the walls or whatever. Do you actually think two members of staff including a senior one would be throwing kids around...

For the record my son is perfectly convinced some cats threw me down the chimney last week. Need I not say no cats dragged me up the roof to push me down the chimney. He also told me on another occasion when I didnt buy him ice cream his key worker would be angry and would break our car when she finds out. She found out and didnt trash my car.

Vitriolinsanity · 12/09/2023 20:20

NewName122 · 12/09/2023 20:08

I witnessed a TA full on screaming in primary aged kids faces at pick up. Kids were crying. It was shocking. God knows what she was like when parents weren't there. Parents complained and they said she was going through a hard time at home and was stressed. So you never know.

No, you don't. Neither do you know what the inevitable outcome of an investigation into the incident would be.

What school's say and what they actually do are vastly different in such circumstances. What they don't do is add to a sentence like "she was experiencing pain difficulty at home" with "so we fired her ass".

Granted, this may appear as though nothing was done, but I'd be stunned to stopping if it hadn't. I'm telling you this as the person that advised schools on the action they need to take.

ThankYouStavros · 12/09/2023 20:20

Removed my post, cba

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