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Teacher hit me

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AdaUserName92 · 12/09/2023 15:23

So my son just started nursery, he is 3 and this was his settling in week. Everything was going well until the last couple of days he done home and said his teacher and another senior member of staff hislt him and threw him. On those two days he came hone super angry and change in behaviour. I've withdrawn him from the school. Has anyone had such experience and reported to ofsted and safeguarding bodies? What was the outcome?

OP posts:
baSIix · 12/09/2023 22:39

Not saying your child is lying but when my niece is told no, she will say she was hit by that person, even though she most definitely was not.

JudgeJ · 12/09/2023 22:52

All children should be believed. There was a case near me of a teacher hitting a pupil and she was sacked, it does happen!

One can only assume that there was some evidence!

HoppingPavlova · 12/09/2023 23:10

Sure, the odd bad apple teacher may hit students, same as the odd bad apple nurse will kill patients. But, there is usually evidence in an educational setting, cctv in younger settings, and corroboration by other pupils in older settings.

I have a friend whose child accused her, at nursery, of stabbing her really hard with a knife in a certain place on the body, with detail about how lots of blood spurted out. A report was made but with no action as child didn’t have a mark on them there or anywhere else. One of my own kids accused me of physically hurting one of their siblings in a very specific way. Apparently they it. Nope, never happened, and the sibling it supposedly happened to was gobsmacked and told them it never happened. To this day as an adult, they still believe ‘their truth’ and when told until blue in face by that sibling and other siblings (who supposedly were all there and saw it as well) that this never happened they claim they are being gaslit🤯. So, it is indeed ‘their truth’ but just never happened. I think we all know people like that 😝.

JudgeJ · 12/09/2023 23:12

i work in a school - one of our reception children swore blind to her parents that my name is ‘Mrs Washing Machine’. To the point that the parent felt conpelled to double check with me. Needless to say, that is not my name.

My daughter always talked fondly of the Long Lady, the Curly Lady, the Brown Lady etc from Kindergarten. We were out shopping and she excitedly said There's the Brown Lady over there! She hadn't been in Kindergarten long and I didn't know all the staff's names but I had seen a West Indian member of staff so I looked round, expecting to see her when a stranger said Hello to her. Later I asked why she called her the Brown Lady, apparently she always wore a brown tabard, the Long Lady had long hair and the Curly lady was the West Indian as I gradually found out.

NM12345 · 12/09/2023 23:32

HappyMeal564 · 12/09/2023 16:04

Ignore the posters saying it didn't happen, they quite obviously weren't there. Does the nursery have cctv they can check for you?

I love that Gif,

Sorry, no real interest in the thread, just saw that gif and thought, WOW!

Hawkins0009 · 13/09/2023 00:45

HakunaMatiłda · 12/09/2023 17:22

Shhhh everyone before you’re sent to the naughty step for sharing unwanted personal opinions.

We must be robots and only answer specifically to the ops perspectives

adriftinadenofvipers · 13/09/2023 00:50

This thread is actually batshit from the perspective of the long-absent, victim OP!

Wouldyouguess · 13/09/2023 06:18

BananaSlug · 12/09/2023 18:10

All children should be believed. There was a case near me of a teacher hitting a pupil and she was sacked, it does happen!

It veery occasionally happen, in almost 20 years working in schools, I have not met a single case like that, but I had two colleagues accused of things by kids that turned out to be made up, but the false accusations had a devastating effect on both individuals, even despite being cleared.
All cases should be looked into and investigated, that does not mean you know of a ONE case where it turned out to be true that all 3yo are being chucked around the nursery.

CaptainMyCaptain · 13/09/2023 07:21

Ive remembered another one. A school nursery parent accused the TA of locking her child in the outdoor toy cupboard. I showed her the cupboard which was covered by a curtain so couldn't possibly have been locked. I expect the child was imagining what it would be like and scared herself.

Qilin · 13/09/2023 07:30

saythatagaintome · 12/09/2023 18:01

It’s unusual to lie at that age. OP I’d be furious… not sure I could hold
back from breaking both their faces 😱

Unusual at 3? It really really isn't!

I'm assume you would check out the facts before resorting to aggression, let alone actual violence and assault.

housethatbuiltme · 13/09/2023 09:23

MaryLea · 12/09/2023 19:58

Not quite the same situation, but at the other end of life I had a similar experience as a care giver. An elderly woman with dementia was obviously scared of one particular carer. On a night shift I witnessed the carer walk into the patient's room, grab her from sleeping and drag her into a seated position, and proceed to shout at her that she was stupid and lazy while trying to remove her wet pad. She then literally tore the woman's wet nightdress and cut it off with scissors because she was 'resisting' (as you can imagine the poor old lady was terrified). I went in and said I'd take over, spent a while comforting the poor lady (the other woman came in asking what was taking so long and set her off again.)

Anyway, I did write a report to the manager who promptly removed the woman while she was being investigated. She was on paid leave for over a year, going back and forth saying she was a victim of bullying and I was making the whole thing up. A lot of my colleagues gave me the cold shoulder (others backed me up and came out with evidence of their own, including the laundry room, who dated incidents of this ladies clothes being ripped and cut all coinciding with that particular carer. ) The woman was eventually struck off.

The thing is, the victim had been saying for over a year that this woman was bullying her. Nobody believed her because she had dementia. Turned out she was telling the truth.

We all have a duty to care for the vulnerable. So, despite what others say, you did good, OP.

but its completely different.

We are now a younger centric culture in most the UK etc... which means people focus on and protect the young not the old. Many elderly are in care homes because family have ditched out on the obligations to care for them themselves. Its not nice but the reason elder abuse happens is because people are 'too busy' living life to care or even notice.

With children however they almost all have a network of parents and caregivers that are watching over them. Some (like OP) with Precious First Baby Syndrome are looking for a fight to cement their 'protective mama bear' status. There a village that comes together to watch and lots of safeguards in place.

Compare it to elder centric cultures where young kids (sometimes starting in toddlerhood) are expected to be independent and often work/run the house. While there parents tend to their elderly family members and you won't see this kind of hyperbolic outrage at a clearly imaginative toddler story.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 13/09/2023 09:43

I don't know whether it happened or not, and it would have been wise to raise it. I do know that little one can lie-my son came home from nursery insistent he'd been to the moon, because he read a story about it. Apparently I was not to ask his teacher about it!

Stravaig · 13/09/2023 09:55

Zero-G travel definitely needs a signed parental permission slip 🤣

fuckityfuckityfuckfuck · 13/09/2023 20:42

Stravaig · 13/09/2023 09:55

Zero-G travel definitely needs a signed parental permission slip 🤣

But it was a local trip within walking distance so the OP probably pre-agreed to it when they joined the nursery. 😁

HappyMeal564 · 14/09/2023 03:25

Deathbyfluffy · 12/09/2023 19:53

Neither was the OP, so by that logic… 😶

Oh come on, you know what I'm saying. Do your own research instead of going with random people on the internet saying it couldn't have possibly happened that don't know your child 😶

NeunundneunzigHorseBallonz · 14/09/2023 03:31

When I look at the pittance that is paid to care for our most vulnerable people - babies and the elderly, it doesn’t surprise me at all that they are hit. If more education and a commensurate pay rate was required, this would improve things.

Lahdedahiam · 14/09/2023 03:40

susan123graeme · 12/09/2023 21:00

Very young children never lie - listen to your child - this sounds serious

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WeeWillyWinkie9 · 14/09/2023 05:07

HappyMeal564
The chances of it being 1 member of staff is rare but to have two members of staff who both do this in the same setting while other staff members watch on and do nothing - the probability for that is way lower than rare.

Stopthatknocking · 14/09/2023 09:49

NeunundneunzigHorseBallonz · 14/09/2023 03:31

When I look at the pittance that is paid to care for our most vulnerable people - babies and the elderly, it doesn’t surprise me at all that they are hit. If more education and a commensurate pay rate was required, this would improve things.

This is possibly the most offensive post I have ever seen on any forum.
Are you really suggesting that just because someone is low paid or only has GCSE level or A level qualifications they will be an abuser!!!!

(And as an aside, many nursery staff have degrees in Early Yeaes and teaching, so they are not uneducated but still are low paid)

CurlewKate · 14/09/2023 09:56

@NeunundneunzigHorseBallonz That is one of the most offensive posts I have ever read. I'd report it-but I think it should stay so you have to defend your views.

NeunundneunzigHorseBallonz · 15/09/2023 02:53

I didn’t explain that well at all. I meant that we leave our vulnerable people in the care of others who are paid only slightly above minimum wage. It’s super expensive for those who are paying for care for their loved ones, but the actual carers are being paid an absolute pittance for what is an extremely demanding job with much responsibility. MOST carers are lovely, but some are not. I keep hearing about elderly abuse and child abuse in care situations and it is cited that the abusers are often restentful, burnt out, cynical and feel entitled. In an ideal world, there would be more carers, who are paid a decent wage commensurate with their responsibilities and more checks to ensure that everyone’s safe. Obviously the costs would have to be pulled from government funding because it’s already unaffordable for a lot of people as it is.

Wouldyouguess · 15/09/2023 07:14

Stopthatknocking · 14/09/2023 09:49

This is possibly the most offensive post I have ever seen on any forum.
Are you really suggesting that just because someone is low paid or only has GCSE level or A level qualifications they will be an abuser!!!!

(And as an aside, many nursery staff have degrees in Early Yeaes and teaching, so they are not uneducated but still are low paid)

But the amount of abuse reported in care homes happens. It has nothing to do with degree or education, but being in a position of power over someone who cannot report it and on top of that being paid pennies.

Stopthatknocking · 15/09/2023 07:21

Wouldyouguess · 15/09/2023 07:14

But the amount of abuse reported in care homes happens. It has nothing to do with degree or education, but being in a position of power over someone who cannot report it and on top of that being paid pennies.

No, it's nothing to to with being paid pennies.

I agree that abuse happens, it is really and needs to be stopped. But you can't say it's due to the rate of pay.

People do not abuse others because their wages are low.

Wouldyouguess · 15/09/2023 08:36

Stopthatknocking · 15/09/2023 07:21

No, it's nothing to to with being paid pennies.

I agree that abuse happens, it is really and needs to be stopped. But you can't say it's due to the rate of pay.

People do not abuse others because their wages are low.

I'm not sure you understood what I wrote- it's mainly the being in a position of power, but you can't deny incredible stress and being underpaid that adds onto it are not a factor. You have to have a predisposition to be violent, but it's more likely to happen if you have opportunities (working with vulnerable) and if circumstances are exacerbated by tough conditions creating a feeling of being used/undervalued. I saw people treat each other (or talking about clients) much worse in minimum wage jobs than in an office. It's not an insult, I did both over the years. So yes, there is a correlation between pay, whether direct or indirect (creating a stressful cituation).

WeeWillyWinkie9 · 16/09/2023 09:37

Wouldyouguess
Abuse is a choice behaviour and that alone. Nothing else causes it other than the person who does it chooses to do so.