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Manchester airport

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poshsnobtwit · 24/07/2024 20:04

Regardless as to what happened to cause the physical restraint of these boys, it is clear that the force used was immeasurably beyond proportional. I really hope that the officers concerned get sacked and a a custodial sentence.
We always have issues in UK ports and airports and this certainly doesn't ease my concerns.

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Scirocco · 28/07/2024 20:27

Just a quick reminder that this is on the Muslim Mumsnetters board.

Utterknowitall · 28/07/2024 20:34

hattie43 · 28/07/2024 20:25

Those lads were out of control , I've never seen fighting like that over something so trivial . Luckily for them they live here , in America, China , Russia they'd be dead .

I thank god there are police willing to protect us the public from scum like that . That policeman was restrained , he controlled the end of that violent thugs behaviour so he could not hurt anyone else , if he was uncontrolled he would have rained licks on him not just once .

Who'd wanna be a police officer in this day and age?
I actually feel sorry for the officer as he obviously acted in the heat of the moment, as many would have.

Scirocco · 28/07/2024 20:34

hattie43 · 28/07/2024 20:25

Those lads were out of control , I've never seen fighting like that over something so trivial . Luckily for them they live here , in America, China , Russia they'd be dead .

I thank god there are police willing to protect us the public from scum like that . That policeman was restrained , he controlled the end of that violent thugs behaviour so he could not hurt anyone else , if he was uncontrolled he would have rained licks on him not just once .

While you may not have seen it, this is not an uncommon situation for people in certain fields (such as emergency workers or prison staff) to experience. I'm not even a police officer and I've encountered similar and worse - and in none of those situations did I or any other professional kick anyone in the head.

People who assault emergency workers should face consequences through the criminal justice system. Police officers and people in similar roles who kick suspects/detained people in the head should be disciplined appropriately.

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 28/07/2024 20:37

@Paul2023 some of those "idiots" (funny how they're simply idiots)assaulted the police. That's what they got arrested for. Hell Tommy Robison himself got done for attacking a police officer in the past.

And that night, 4 out of how many thousands of people got arrested? Does their small number make the attack less vicious and violent?

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 28/07/2024 20:41

A fifth was “arrested on suspicion of assaulting an emergency worker and a racially aggravated public order offence after a police officer was kicked”.

The force later added: “A further four people have been arrested outside a pub in Whitehall on suspicion of assault on emergency workers. Four officers were assaulted. Fortunately none sustained serious injuries.”

Paul2023 · 28/07/2024 22:48

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 28/07/2024 20:37

@Paul2023 some of those "idiots" (funny how they're simply idiots)assaulted the police. That's what they got arrested for. Hell Tommy Robison himself got done for attacking a police officer in the past.

And that night, 4 out of how many thousands of people got arrested? Does their small number make the attack less vicious and violent?

Well to my knowledge, no police officers were hurt at that Robinson march. So, that makes this incident less violent, wouldn’t you agree?

Most reasonable and rational people would follow the orders given my a police officer, particularly at an airport, and even more so when those police officers are armed.

These men didn’t, they assaulted them knowing they were armed.

Which makes me think that they’re not particularly reasonable or rational ?..

What the heck has the Tommy Robinson March got to do with the Manchester airport incident?

Also the Met police didn’t confirm that those arrested were from the protest. Infact, there were multiple protests going on in London that day.

Beefcurtains79 · 29/07/2024 06:02

Scirocco · 28/07/2024 20:34

While you may not have seen it, this is not an uncommon situation for people in certain fields (such as emergency workers or prison staff) to experience. I'm not even a police officer and I've encountered similar and worse - and in none of those situations did I or any other professional kick anyone in the head.

People who assault emergency workers should face consequences through the criminal justice system. Police officers and people in similar roles who kick suspects/detained people in the head should be disciplined appropriately.

You’ve encountered women being punched in the face, police being put in a choke hold and rendered unconscious by raining blows to the head.
You've encountered worse than this? Jesus,

Scirocco · 29/07/2024 07:40

Beefcurtains79 · 29/07/2024 06:02

You’ve encountered women being punched in the face, police being put in a choke hold and rendered unconscious by raining blows to the head.
You've encountered worse than this? Jesus,

Yes. That's what people in some fields encounter, and what they are therefore trained to manage in professional ways. It will have been frightening but there is still a duty to respond professionally. Kicking or stamping people's heads is not ok - a single kick or stamp can be enough to kill. There were alternatives in that situation, and whether through a failure of training or a choice, the officer did not use those alternatives. It needs to be investigated and consideration given to re-training, change of roles, dismissal or even criminal charges. Just as should happen in any such situation. Meanwhile, people who assault emergency workers should have the book thrown at them.

Sandyankles · 29/07/2024 07:46

Scirocco- ‘frightening’ seems rather an understatement! What else do you think he could have done to stop the attacker getting up again? To me the alternative was to use his gun.
Do you think any amount of training can guarantee clear thought after 10 blows to the head and attempted strangulation?
When you say ‘encountered’ do you mean you have personally been subjected to that level of violence?

Scirocco · 29/07/2024 08:04

Sandyankles · 29/07/2024 07:46

Scirocco- ‘frightening’ seems rather an understatement! What else do you think he could have done to stop the attacker getting up again? To me the alternative was to use his gun.
Do you think any amount of training can guarantee clear thought after 10 blows to the head and attempted strangulation?
When you say ‘encountered’ do you mean you have personally been subjected to that level of violence?

I've encountered that level of violence personally, in terms of direct involvement in situations, as well as supporting people in the aftermath, yes. Once the perpetrator is on the floor, you absolutely cannot justify a boot to the head. Other physical restraint options, tasering again, even drawing a firearm could all be less likely to destroy a life than a heavy boot to the head. Heads are fragile things, really, and even a single blow can kill.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 29/07/2024 08:12

Parkingt111 · 25/07/2024 21:18

Edited

He’s not a poor man, he was part of a fight that punched three police officers to the ground and broke a woman’s nose. I don’t condone what the police did while he was on the floor for a single second, but this man is a violent thug.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 29/07/2024 08:17

WafflesOrIceCream · 25/07/2024 22:54

Bloody disgusting behaviour from that officer!!
He should be sacked!

No one in their right mind would attack the police first unless they were provoked!

The young men's mother was pushed, I would have attacked someone if they had done that to my mother.

Why on earth do the police think they have all the power to do what they want?They don't!!

Another thing, judging by the protests, this matter will not be laid to rest until justice is served.

If someone pushed me and my son started a fight like this, broke a woman’s nose, and punched police to the floor, I’d be thoroughly ashamed of him.

Scirocco · 29/07/2024 08:24

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 29/07/2024 08:17

If someone pushed me and my son started a fight like this, broke a woman’s nose, and punched police to the floor, I’d be thoroughly ashamed of him.

Me too. Quite surprised they're out on bail (as far as I can tell).

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 29/07/2024 08:27

Scirocco · 29/07/2024 08:24

Me too. Quite surprised they're out on bail (as far as I can tell).

Thank you - so am I, they should be on remand.

Scirocco · 29/07/2024 08:29

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 29/07/2024 08:27

Thank you - so am I, they should be on remand.

Definitely. Assaults on emergency workers often don't get taken seriously though. Even really bad ones. It's like there's an assumption that we've signed up for it in the job description.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 29/07/2024 08:44

Scirocco · 29/07/2024 08:29

Definitely. Assaults on emergency workers often don't get taken seriously though. Even really bad ones. It's like there's an assumption that we've signed up for it in the job description.

I’m constantly horrified by them, especially assaults on paramedics and hospital staff.

LiterallyOnFire · 29/07/2024 09:18

Thank you - so am I, they should be on remand

I expect the authorities have been soft-pedalling everything connected to the incident until the attempts to start a race riot abated. Doubtless GMPolice also know the solicitor who was trying so hard to whip it all up at the end of last week.

Paul2023 · 29/07/2024 13:35

Yeas ago, my wife’s cousin had a pub brawl. An off duty police officer was involved ( cousin didn’t know he was an off duty police officer ).
He was arrested and charged for assaulting a police officer ( the police obviously wanted to defend their own ) and wife’s cousin was reminded and given 5 years.

So why hasn’t these men be remanded for a much more serious incident? !

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