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Manchester airport

118 replies

poshsnobtwit · 24/07/2024 20:04

Regardless as to what happened to cause the physical restraint of these boys, it is clear that the force used was immeasurably beyond proportional. I really hope that the officers concerned get sacked and a a custodial sentence.
We always have issues in UK ports and airports and this certainly doesn't ease my concerns.

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Upallnight2 · 28/07/2024 06:29

The brothers said their mother had been injured during the altercation. I see the video shows her being knocked to the ground by one of the sons elbows as he's punching an officer

LuluBlakey1 · 28/07/2024 06:35

I think this second video puts the incident in a very different context. So we now have two muslim men attacking police officers, particularly 2 white female police officers - one of whom GMP says had her nose broken, and the older lady appears to be knocked over by her own son in his aggression to others.

EasterIssland · 28/07/2024 07:04

LuluBlakey1 · 28/07/2024 06:35

I think this second video puts the incident in a very different context. So we now have two muslim men attacking police officers, particularly 2 white female police officers - one of whom GMP says had her nose broken, and the older lady appears to be knocked over by her own son in his aggression to others.

Still kicking someone o the head who has been neutralised doesn’t make thing right. Don’t behave like a thug if you’re a police officer

Flibflobflibflob · 28/07/2024 07:06

Oh come on they were acting like twats, he wasn’t cuffed when he was on the floor and looked like he was getting up in the video, if someone had just punched you in the head over and over you’d want to make sure they weren’t getting up again wouldn’t you. They were extremely violent, one of them was punching women! How many men go around punching women, they were completely out of control.

LiterallyOnFire · 28/07/2024 07:09

poshsnobtwit · 25/07/2024 08:45

@Beefcurtains79 this particular incident was an assault by a police officer, not a fight.

That comment aged like milk.

LiterallyOnFire · 28/07/2024 07:13

For some reason, the authorities sat on the earlier footage for several days. The delay let the outrage build up without the contextualising footage.

I hope they're not going to do the same with updates about the violent copper's disciplinary outcome. He should fired and probably charged.

The two thug brothers should be arrested and charged too. Who gets into a fight at an airport, punches two female police officers so viciously and knocks their own mother to the floor in the process? That's demented levels of habitual violence.

rwalker · 28/07/2024 07:14

EasterIssland · 28/07/2024 07:04

Still kicking someone o the head who has been neutralised doesn’t make thing right. Don’t behave like a thug if you’re a police officer

The effects of tazers are temporary can last from seconds to minutes
they’ve not been neutralised
also the person would of been fuelled by adrenaline which gives them incredible strength
In airports its security first question later

if he’d done this in an airport in other countries he’d of been shot

Walkden · 28/07/2024 07:18

Watching the new video does put a slightly different aspect to it. Everything happened really fast, the assailants were very aggressive, the officer had been hit from behind multiple times and hit him in head a split second after he had been battering the officer from behind and seemingly fell over / tripped( having been tased by an officer on the floor?)

All. Very well saying officers are trained but where adrenaline and being hit injured /in shock and involved some allowance must be made

CrotchetyQuaver · 28/07/2024 07:46

I reckon they're some scary drugs family and that's why that male flew around punching everybody, he's the enforcer.
It does still seem excessive force from the police officer though, but he'd taken out 3 officers and who knows how many others before he started on the police already with his violence so he had to be stopped.

Beefcurtains79 · 28/07/2024 07:47

EasterIssland · 28/07/2024 07:04

Still kicking someone o the head who has been neutralised doesn’t make thing right. Don’t behave like a thug if you’re a police officer

Don’t behave like a thug in an airport.

TheIronicWoman · 28/07/2024 07:52

It’s only in the UK that people think they can attack the police. In most other countries they would’ve been shot dead.

But here we are saying oh that poor man on the floor, after he and 2 others attacked female police officers.

The officer needs to be disciplined and trained in ways to better detain people. Those thugs though, they need to be jailed.

Beefcurtains79 · 28/07/2024 07:54

LiterallyOnFire · 28/07/2024 07:09

That comment aged like milk.

I know right. The defenders of these absolute trash are fine with a women being punched in the face whilst doing her job, and out of control violent men terrifying children and families in an airport.
God knows what would have happened if any of them got hold of the police officers firearms in that situation.
But there are posters on here claiming they’d do the same if someone pushed their mums chair on a flight so…..

Iasonnas · 28/07/2024 08:18

"Really upset to see the poor man's condition has now deteriorated"

Wonder if it deteriorated just as he found out there was footage of him being an absolute shit bag who deserved a good fucking kicking 🤷🏽‍♀️

Dancingmonkeyfeet · 28/07/2024 08:32

Years ago by ex went round the back of a building for a wee. The police followed him and ended up kicking two of his front teeth out of his mouth. They arrested him, put him in a cell and the Sargent came in and told him that if he pressed charges they would charge him for attempt burglary. He didn’t press charges against the police and he wasn’t charged for attempt burglary

A couple of years ago my house was burgled and my car was took. It was found a few streets away. A neighbour came out and said that a police van turned up and got one of the lads who was by the car and took him in the back of the van and battered him. I asked about the village who this lad was and went to see him. His face was an absolute mess, The lad apologised - he was only about 15/16.

Both of these were white lads,

We only hear about brutality by the police if it’s about non white lads because it causes more of a fuss and sells more stories

You don’t have to be non white to get your head kicked in by the police

Im in Manchester

Scirocco · 28/07/2024 10:25

Nobody should be getting kicked in the head by police. It doesn't matter what's happened, police officers, like everyone else who's trained in the use of physical force to manage violence and aggression, should act within professional limits.

If someone attacks me in the course of my work, I have to be able to defend and justify my actions as being necessary and the least harmful option. There is no feasible scenario in which it is necessary to kick someone in the head while they're lying on the ground and posing no immediate threat that could not be appropriately managed in a less harmful way.

It's also entirely unacceptable to assault police officers or anyone else and people who do so should be charged and sent through the criminal justice system appropriately. Emergency workers don't go to work to be assaulted.

EasterIssland · 28/07/2024 11:06

CrotchetyQuaver · 28/07/2024 07:46

I reckon they're some scary drugs family and that's why that male flew around punching everybody, he's the enforcer.
It does still seem excessive force from the police officer though, but he'd taken out 3 officers and who knows how many others before he started on the police already with his violence so he had to be stopped.

Do you have proof of your accusation regarding drugs ?

EasterIssland · 28/07/2024 11:08

Beefcurtains79 · 28/07/2024 07:54

I know right. The defenders of these absolute trash are fine with a women being punched in the face whilst doing her job, and out of control violent men terrifying children and families in an airport.
God knows what would have happened if any of them got hold of the police officers firearms in that situation.
But there are posters on here claiming they’d do the same if someone pushed their mums chair on a flight so…..

I believe nobody is defending attacking police officers. People are against violence against police and civilians. Thugs shouldn’t be stopped with thugs but law

Upallnight2 · 28/07/2024 12:00

LiterallyOnFire · 28/07/2024 07:09

That comment aged like milk.

🤣

LuluBlakey1 · 28/07/2024 12:14

EasterIssland · 28/07/2024 07:04

Still kicking someone o the head who has been neutralised doesn’t make thing right. Don’t behave like a thug if you’re a police officer

Don't attack police officers and punch them in the face breaking their noses.

Shushquite · 28/07/2024 13:30

Am I blind? Yes, the men attacked the police. But to continue hitting the men, that is still excessive. Can people see the police man kicking the second man, while his hands were up?

I personally, like to hold my police officers to a higher standard than the men they arrested.

We have a law people need to follow especially, those tasked to enforce it.

ASBONEIGHBOURS · 28/07/2024 13:59

The whole incident suggests complete incompetence on the part of the police. The fact that 3 officers cannot safely detain a suspect without getting themselves and other members of the public hurt in the process is actually laughable. Surely this is what they are trained and paid to do ?

Kicking in the face a man who has his arms behind his back and is lying on the floor is just atrocious, I've seen the injuries caused by this sort of action, including permanent loss of sight and brain damage. That officer is lucky nothing worse came of his reckless behaviour.

rwalker · 28/07/2024 14:04

taxguru · 25/07/2024 12:17

No, a trained/professional police officer shouldn't act like a thug, whatever has gone before, particularly once the offender in question has been "neutralised" as a threat. He was 100% out of order.

How have they been neutralise as a threat
tazers take them down for anything from a few seconds to a few minutes
then if anything there worse as fuelled on adrenaline when they get up

SilverCatStripes · 28/07/2024 14:22

Some of you are just using this as confirmation bias that the police are awful without looking at the context of the situation- I posted this on another thread, but I think it’s just as relevant here

That officer had just been beaten and strangled, to the point he lost consciousness, he needed to make damn sure that they weren’t going to take his weapons from him whilst minimising risk to the public, he acted entirely within reason in the situation.

Anyone thinking that this is about a power trip needs to look at situation as a whole - the police had gone in to calm the situation and were very badly assaulted, they needed to protect the public as well as themselves- the men kicking off were being extremely brutally violent , they needed subduing in a way that kept the public and the police safe first.

poshsnobtwit · 28/07/2024 14:44

Beefcurtains79 · 28/07/2024 07:54

I know right. The defenders of these absolute trash are fine with a women being punched in the face whilst doing her job, and out of control violent men terrifying children and families in an airport.
God knows what would have happened if any of them got hold of the police officers firearms in that situation.
But there are posters on here claiming they’d do the same if someone pushed their mums chair on a flight so…..

Who is defending them? I said that what the police did was wholly wrong and needs investigated. A lot of "complete trash" behave very badly in public, this does not mean our police force can go around booting them in the head. That is not in defence of what the suspects might have done, it's called law and order!

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poshsnobtwit · 28/07/2024 14:46

SilverCatStripes · 28/07/2024 14:22

Some of you are just using this as confirmation bias that the police are awful without looking at the context of the situation- I posted this on another thread, but I think it’s just as relevant here

That officer had just been beaten and strangled, to the point he lost consciousness, he needed to make damn sure that they weren’t going to take his weapons from him whilst minimising risk to the public, he acted entirely within reason in the situation.

Anyone thinking that this is about a power trip needs to look at situation as a whole - the police had gone in to calm the situation and were very badly assaulted, they needed to protect the public as well as themselves- the men kicking off were being extremely brutally violent , they needed subduing in a way that kept the public and the police safe first.

Respectfully, you need to look at this within the context of the proven institutionalized racism within the police force. It is a fact this happens, and may have contributed to the officer's actions. It may not of course, but the court will decide. POC, who are also "our public" are often not safe from the police.

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