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Facebook Live about talking to kids about staying safe from abuse with NSPCC

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RachelMumsnet · 22/08/2018 21:47

We’re running a facebook live with NSPCC about talking to kids about staying safe from abuse. The NSPCC have developed programme called Speak out. Stay safe delivered in primary schools across the UK. Volunteers visit schools where they run workshops and assemblies to teach children how to stay safe from abuse and what to do if they have any concerns. The NSPCC are also running a campaign called PANTS that teaches parents how to talk to young children about staying safe from sexual abuse in an age appropriate and non-scary way.

Lidl say: "'Last year Lidl UK employees voted to make the NSPCC their new national charity partner for a three year period. During this period, this partnership will aim to raise £3 million to keep 1 million primary school children safe through the NSPCC’s Speak out. Stay safe programme. This vital programme helps to empower a generation of children with the knowledge they need to stay safe. With at least 2 children in the average primary school class having suffered abuse or neglect, it’s vital that the NSPCC has the resources to visit primary schools across the UK to teach children that abuse is never OK."

Join the NSPCC live next week on Thursday 30 August at 12.30pm on Mumsnet Facebook or post up a question on this thread that we will put to the NSPCC during the live stream. We’ll link to the stream next week on this thread.

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IncrediblySturdyPyjamas · 30/08/2018 13:55

'Hi NSPCC.
About that webchat.
We have mumsnetters here actually asking questions about safety of kids, for your safety of kids webchat.
What do you want to do about this?
Yes we were expecting banal chit about school hacks and biscuits, no idea where they are getting all this from.
Ok, well never mind.
No, we'll just quietly remove the thread from 'Active', no-one will notice.
They are all too pissed up on gin by 10am anyway.
Ha ha ha, yes exactly
Right, see you soon'

IAmLurkacus · 30/08/2018 13:55

Thank you!! Smile

AsAProfessionalFekko · 30/08/2018 13:58

Did it happen?

R0wantrees · 30/08/2018 14:01

My follow-up question:

Prior to Claude Knights warnings with regards convicted sex-offenders, Francis Crook Director of the Howard Reform League added to concerns raised by prison governors,
‘These men are not transitioning because they like women and want to be a woman, but in order to exert a new kind of control and dominance over women, a sort of infiltration"

Can the NSPCC see how serious the potential is for abuse by this small number of dangerous males and will they also commit to working with prison governors, Howard Reform League & Claude Knights to share Safeguarding expertise?

Source:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5798945/Trans-women-convicted-men-attack-vulnerable-inmates.html

LadybirdsAreBirds · 30/08/2018 14:09

Good question R0wan. The NSPCC has a lot of expertise in recognising grooming and coercive control (?)

EmpressOfSpartacus · 30/08/2018 14:14

Around the 20th, NSPCC retweeted a tweet from MN with a link to the webchat. Which now comes up with a Facebook error page.

So that would have been just before the questions started appearing here, & then nothing since.

Happityhap · 30/08/2018 14:16

There's a link here, in the OP, which just goes to MN fb page with no mention of this on it.

IncrediblySturdyPyjamas · 30/08/2018 14:19

Did it happen?

Did it heck!

what they going to say to respond to the questions asked?

'Oh yes thanks for noticing that children's [in particular girls] boundaries are being completely obliterated, we'll get right onto that?

No, hiding their heads in the sand - much better approach.

This shows just how institutionally corrupt they all are.

La la la - can't hear you...fingers in ears whilst girls are being thrown to the fucking dragons.

IAmLurkacus · 30/08/2018 14:23

This thread needs sending to times/telegraph/mail to run a story on questions that NSPCC haven’t answered.

LadybirdsAreBirds · 30/08/2018 14:26

I've sent to an investigative satirical magazine

IncrediblySturdyPyjamas · 30/08/2018 14:32

Sorry I knew this would never happen hence my initial post about the Sturdy Pyjamas.

Any investigative satirical magazine is welcome to message me where the sorry tale of a TRA suggesting that Girls Guides really should just wear Sturdy Pyjamas at their overnights, to keep any rapists [boys that identify as girls] at bay can be told in greater detail.

But contact Rowan first, she has all the links.

Like a walking encyclopedia.

LadybirdsAreBirds · 30/08/2018 14:34

Incredibly

Your post was funny.

LadybirdsAreBirds · 30/08/2018 14:35

... and obviously, tragic at the same time

IncrediblySturdyPyjamas · 30/08/2018 14:35

Shrodinger's Sturdy Pyjamas.

ShrodingersSturdyPyjamas · 30/08/2018 14:36

Namechanged - thanks Ladybirds.

Datun · 30/08/2018 14:36

Dear NSPCC, the women and mothers here have spent a considerable amount of time formulating questions, using links.

Profoundly concerned with what their children are being taught, they have invested their time, some rearranging their day around this web chat.

Two things.

  1. don't treat women like that.
  2. this issue is not going away, just because you ignore it.
IAmLurkacus · 30/08/2018 14:38

What Datun said.

Every single time, what datun said.

R0wantrees · 30/08/2018 14:38

'Oh yes thanks for noticing that children's [in particular girls] boundaries are being completely obliterated, we'll get right onto that

In the event that this starts to be taken seriously, I would like to highlight two recent articles from Scotland for consideration?

"A series of Freedom of Information (FoI) requests have revealed that councils have widely backed guidelines produced by organisations campaigning for the rights of transgender people but have not considered how the new approach will affect children – particularly girls."
www.heraldscotland.com/news/16311379.schools-forget-girls-in-rush-to-adopt-pro-trans-guidance-campaigners-claim-as-christian-group-threatens-legal-action/

Current case, adjourned for pre-sentence reports:
Two young girls (aged 10 & 12) sexually assaulted in women's supermarket toilets by what seems likely from the artoicle below a 17 year old male who does not identify as a man. The perpetrator has a long history of Social Care involvement so there may (should?) be a case review.

In one case the girl was assaulted whilst her father waited outside the toilet (as countless fathers, brothers, uncles and grandpas do everyday).
www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/702003/fife-teen-on-sex-offenders-register-after-supermarket-child-attacks/

EmpressOfSpartacus · 30/08/2018 14:40

I've started a thread in Site Stuff.

RachelMumsnet · 30/08/2018 14:55

We're sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this. We are currently in discussion with the NSPCC and will be updating you shortly.

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EmpressOfSpartacus · 30/08/2018 14:56

Thanks Rachel.

PyeWackets · 30/08/2018 15:01

Well. This is going well.

Gileswithachainsaw · 30/08/2018 15:09

Oh....Oh dear...

Excellent questions from everyone.

DanaBarrett · 30/08/2018 15:11

The childline site seems to START from a position of social transition
www.childline.org.uk/info-advice/your-feelings/sexual-identity/transgender-identity/

Doyenne · 30/08/2018 15:11

Thanks Rachel, appreciate Mumsnet setting up these opportunities for the non political wider public to ask about issues that concern them

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