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Facebook Live about talking to kids about staying safe from abuse with NSPCC

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RachelMumsnet · 22/08/2018 21:47

We’re running a facebook live with NSPCC about talking to kids about staying safe from abuse. The NSPCC have developed programme called Speak out. Stay safe delivered in primary schools across the UK. Volunteers visit schools where they run workshops and assemblies to teach children how to stay safe from abuse and what to do if they have any concerns. The NSPCC are also running a campaign called PANTS that teaches parents how to talk to young children about staying safe from sexual abuse in an age appropriate and non-scary way.

Lidl say: "'Last year Lidl UK employees voted to make the NSPCC their new national charity partner for a three year period. During this period, this partnership will aim to raise £3 million to keep 1 million primary school children safe through the NSPCC’s Speak out. Stay safe programme. This vital programme helps to empower a generation of children with the knowledge they need to stay safe. With at least 2 children in the average primary school class having suffered abuse or neglect, it’s vital that the NSPCC has the resources to visit primary schools across the UK to teach children that abuse is never OK."

Join the NSPCC live next week on Thursday 30 August at 12.30pm on Mumsnet Facebook or post up a question on this thread that we will put to the NSPCC during the live stream. We’ll link to the stream next week on this thread.

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PositivelyPERF · 30/08/2018 15:13

Thank you Rachel. I’m sure they are just waiting for the ‘nice, woke’ women to ask the ‘correct’ questions. It must be awfully difficult for them having to deal with all those terribly opinionated women, that keep asking difficult questions that refuse to accept that some children have to be sacrificed on the altar of ‘woke’ political correctness, in order for a tiny group of men and boys that identify as the oppressed ‘gender’.

PositivelyPERF · 30/08/2018 15:14

That should have been ‘opposite’ gender, however the way things are going! 😒

BeyondAnOmnishambles · 30/08/2018 15:25

For my opinion, see my name ^

BeUpStanding · 30/08/2018 15:29

Excellent questions. I'm looking forward to seeing NSPCC's responses. As a PP said, I cannot imagine that the UK's foremost charity for the protection of children isn't ready to engage on the safeguarding issues raised.

stillathing · 30/08/2018 15:31

What Datun said.

Every single time, what datun said.

innit

BeyondAnOmnishambles · 30/08/2018 15:33

"what datun said"

Next namechange, sorted Grin

LadybirdsAreBirds · 30/08/2018 15:34

Thanks Rachel

SweetheartNeckline · 30/08/2018 15:37

I feel an important part of safeguarding is being able to name parts of your body. How do my daughters learn to label their anatomy accurately when they're told being a girl / woman doesn't necessarily mean they have a vulva, vagina and clitoris?

How do I teach them to keep themselves safe and trust their instincts if a dislike of seeing an intact male person in a female changing room is transphobic?

senua · 30/08/2018 15:40

Just in case anyone from NSPCC is reading this and wants to gauge the strength of feeling, add me to the list of people who are not at all happy with your approach.

EmpressOfSpartacus · 30/08/2018 15:44

I wonder if the NSPCC is aware that the surveys cited by Mermaids & Stonewall as proving that roughly half of trans children attempt suicide have both been proved to say nothing of the kind? Because if not, they might be going by inaccurate information.

www.transgendertrend.com/stonewall-school-report-what-does-suicide-rate-mean/
fairplayforwomen.com/mermaids-tg-lying-unprofessional/

LadybirdsAreBirds · 30/08/2018 15:45

Empress

Yes. That's really important to understand. It is brought out and bandied about as fact over and over

EmpressOfSpartacus · 30/08/2018 15:47

Yes. That's really important to understand. It is brought out and bandied about as fact over and over.

Exactly. And it's not. It's manipulative lies.

SturdyEarmuffs · 30/08/2018 15:48

I'm also very unhappy with how this has unfolded - I'm especially keen on hearing the NSPCC's answers to Datun's post at 9:57am yesterday - how girls can SPEAK OUT & STAY SAFE. That's what they were coming to talk about so I'm not impressed with the stoney silence to very important questions being asked by parents.

R0wantrees · 30/08/2018 15:54

I wonder if the NSPCC is aware that the surveys cited by Mermaids & Stonewall as proving that roughly half of trans children attempt suicide have both been proved to say nothing of the kind? Because if not, they might be going by inaccurate information.

I would hope that NSPCC would be actively insisting that any charity, organisation or individual activist that quotes suicide statistics about this vulnerable group of children and young people follows the established Samaritans' guidance.
This however seems to be ignored in many instances by both Stonewall and Mermaids as well as others.

I am sure that the NSPCC are acutely aware of the long-recognised risks of irresponsible discussion and reporting of suicide, especially for vulnerable young people.

Cardiganandcuppa · 30/08/2018 15:55

Watching...

EmpressOfSpartacus · 30/08/2018 15:57

I'd have thought the NSPCC would also be aware of MN's gender critical reputation. Unless they thought that the questions on a Facebook Live would be easier for them to answer?

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 30/08/2018 16:02

Hope the media covers this fiasco. Huge national charity too scared to answer questions from concerned parents due to fear of powerful male fetishist organisations.

IAmLurkacus · 30/08/2018 16:04

Hope the media covers this fiasco. Huge national charity too scared to answer questions from concerned parents due to fear of powerful male fetishist organisations.

I think that covers the current situation. We have learnt NOTHING from Savile.

ThinkIveFoundYourMarbles · 30/08/2018 16:06

One thing confirmed for sure here. NSPCC know damn well their approach is a safeguarding nightmare.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 30/08/2018 16:06

The thing is that these are people's concerns about safeguarding at the moment. I know how to keep my child safe from online grooming by paedophiles. I have no idea how to keep her safe from the consequences of self id.

Where am I supposed to go with these concerns if not places like MN and organisations like the NSPCC?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 30/08/2018 16:06

Popped over here to find out how NSPCC had answered the excellent questions on this thread. Sad to see that there seems to have been some sort of technical hitch

LadybirdsAreBirds · 30/08/2018 16:08

Hope the media covers this fiasco. Huge national charity too scared to answer questions from concerned parents due to fear of powerful male fetishist organisations

This

Theswaggyotter · 30/08/2018 16:10

What a shambles this is!

HavingALittleBabyToolshed · 30/08/2018 16:12

That’s interesting thanks Rachel.
Either way, I do hope this thread is kept up as it contains a lot of valuable work by MNers, mainly mothers who had to rearrange their day.

Mrbatmun · 30/08/2018 16:16

I'd have thought the NSPCC would also be aware of MN's gender critical reputation.

This is what I was thinking. They must have known that a lot of the questions were going to centre around the problems of safeguarding with self id etc?

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