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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

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Spickle · 12/03/2016 09:45

I have read the thread and just wanted to say best wishes to you Somerville and hope you have a wonderful time.

I was widowed 7 years ago and met my now DH 18 months later. My adult DC love him to bits but I won't pretend that it was plain sailing with everyone else.

I absolutely believe 16 months is plenty of time, but only you will know that for sure once your new relationship becomes a little more than a casual meet up.

Spickle · 12/03/2016 09:53

Oops sorry, hadn't seen the updates! Glad it went well!

tragicomicadherent · 12/03/2016 10:17

Oh I'm so happy it went so well! Squee with excitement !!

notapizzaeater · 12/03/2016 10:20

So pleased you had a good night, not so pleased you drunk too much - sure the never having a drink again will have worn off by tonight Smile

WicksEnd · 12/03/2016 10:52

God, I seem to have something in my eye Blush
I am soooo chuffed for you Smile what a lovely heartwarming thread. Now I must go and get dressed Grin

RubbishMantra · 12/03/2016 10:57

Lovely thread. I've both smiled and shed a tear or two while reading it.

I'm 7 months into losing my beautiful little hubby, and it's so good to read that happiness can be found again. At the moment I'm at the point of feeling I'll never fancy/connect with anyone again, ever. I just stopped noticing other blokes when we got together, and I can't imagine that ever coming back. I'm resigned to being crazy cat lady.

It's fucking brilliant to read about someone in the same situation, although further along the grieving process, getting excited about the possibility of a new relationship, or even just finding somebody who they want to snog the face off. Smile Flowers

Flossiesmummy · 12/03/2016 13:51

Thanks for the lovely updates OP Grin

He sounds very lovely

starsinyourpies · 12/03/2016 14:13

Good for you! My DSis died far too young (20s) and I really hope her DH finds someone else and is as happy as you are right now. People might surprise you in their reactions if this goes somewhere.

MistyMeena · 12/03/2016 16:08

Thank you for the updates. I've been thinking about this thread all day

I have a friend who lost her DH 2 years ago (mid 40s). It would be so nice to think this could happen for her one day.

Good luck and keep us posted ;)

Somerville · 12/03/2016 17:04

The DC are at my parents for tea to give me time for a run, but I’m too hungover please no one tell on me so I phoned Lovely and he said ‘Somer, darling, you called me’ and sounded v happy. Somer darling? I went all melty.

Anyway, now I’ve caught up on all your posts properly from the past 24 hours. Which doesn’t really help with the feeling-melty. I’m overwhelmed by all this kindness (and also appreciate all the humour because it helped me to keep from crying). Most especially the posts from those of you who have also experienced loss as I know it can be bloody hard to share. I'm going to reply to as many as I can before the DC get dropped back home. Pols if I don't get round to everyone's good wishes/questions/place marking Grin

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Somerville · 12/03/2016 17:15

RubbishMantra - I’m so sorry Flowers. I’ve been where you are and all I can say is that although I’m no less sad to lose DH, I am somehow gradually able to stop that sadness from seeping into every part of my life. It’s there when I dwell on it (and sometimes I need to) but it no longer eclipses every good thing that happens. I would say that it is impossible to avoid it when I experience other sad/difficult things, or when I get too tired, so I’ve learned to be careful to protect myself from draining/tricky people and drama. For me that included de-regging from mn for a while but there is loads of amazing support on here too. Have you discovered WAY? DancingDinsosaur and I were discussing the differing ways in which it has helped us a few pages back.
Also, I hope your friends and family are giving you loads of support, both emotional and practical. A few months after DH died, when I was really struggling in pretty much every way, an older widow told me ‘when people ask what they can do, take them at their word and give them something to do.’ Since I started taking that advice, things have improved immeasurably.
I think it’s entirely natural to stop fancying/connecting with other people, and tbh with what you and I have been through (and others on here too, sadly) I suspect the emotional connection will come first and we might not be open to the surge of lust without it. When you’ve not fallen out of love but had it snatched away, something shallow or purely physical will never match up.

ladylouanne - I’m so sorry for your loss and I’m happy to hear you’re dating again. “First physical contact strange but lovely and exciting” is the perfect description and I agree that feeling that connection makes me feel alive again. In fact I’ve been thinking about this for a few minutes, and it’s like part of me went dormant when DH died, and I didn’t even notice until last Friday, not the not-a-date yesterday, but the week before, in the first minute or two after meeting Lovely, when we shook hands and shared what, looking back, was basically flirty eye contact all evening.

starsinyourpies - Sorry to hear about your DSis, and I think your attitude towards her DH is wonderful. Best friend has been more supportive than I expected which has made me a feel a bit more confident about the possibility of starting to tell other people.

Spickle - I’m glad you found someone else, it’s so heartwarming to hear all these stories of success. Sorry everyone not totally accepting but I’m glad your DC were.

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Somerville · 12/03/2016 17:25

LilaTheTiger - I love all these not-a-dates turning into lasting happiness stories, thank you.
And, chaste dating… is that actually a thing? Like, that real people do and I could google? I’m asking seriously, I know I want to carry on not-a-dating Lovely and I’m pretty sure I’d be up for dating if he wants that but the shagging aspect isn’t where my heads at right now Even though part of me would very much like to just tear his clothes off and see the tennis abs Confused

jenijena - I really could have done with that paracetamol and water - pity they were only virtual Grin Imagine a gym that seats 200 spectators where there are actually 300, with accompanying cheering, and only 2 bloody vending machines.

AnotherEmma - Dude! It’s a natural assumption! Grin
Don’t be mad at me but still not sure how much younger than me he is because I don’t want to confess that I am 39 He mentioned being mid 30’s in an early email. Honestly though, he’s a blue eyed blond who does long runs at 5am and plays lots of tennis in the summer, so he’s got quite deep (though lovely because he's Lovely) laughter lines around his eyes. I’d have guessed he was late 30’s if not early 40’s. Trying to say without stealth boast that I think if anything he looks a bit older than me

Cabrinha - Drunk me is a drip feeder as well as a philosopher - who knew?!
I’m glad your fiancé has you now. You both sound amazing. I can totally understand him freaking out after having sex for first time; especially now, after my reaction to that kiss. I don’t want to feel freaked out or to hurt the feelings of someone I’m with am picturing it being Lovely but you already knew that and maybe I won't if I take things slow...

wordassociationfootball -Thanks for the deep breathing advice - Lovely had already arrived by then, but I caught up on the thread on the train and found that breathing exercise very helpful to stop from vomiting Grin

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springydaffs · 12/03/2016 18:20

Darling!

Oh God

WordGetsAround · 12/03/2016 18:48

Regular updates and personal replies to posters?! You are THE BEST OP EVER!

OhTheHilarity · 12/03/2016 19:27

The BEST OP EVER!

haha! Quite agree! Have just spent this afternoon/eve reading from beginning (pesky kids' bedtime getting in the way...) and agree gotta be a Classics.

Lovely to hear of such a sweet story and willing all good things your way, Somerville.

Jenijena · 12/03/2016 19:38

So... You're meeting up again?

GColdtimer · 12/03/2016 19:57

Thanks for the updates somer. So glad you feel all warm and fuzzy about mr lovely and you have some time to yourself.

Mantra So sorry for your loss (and others who have shared their stories). I know if my friend still posted on MN she would say - join WAY, it can be a lifeline, either online or in RL. And it's where she met her DH. I would also echo if people ask if they can help, do give them a job. I created a list with my friend so she had a ready response when people asked. One of our friends took her DS to school one day a week so she could slump around in her pjs with her baby DS2. To this day he is delighted he could "do something". Others mowed lawns, had DC round for tea, babysat, stayed over night, cooked meals, fixed things.

Sorry I digress. Can't wait for more updates!

GirlFromMars1 · 12/03/2016 19:59

I wanna know what happens next!!!

ShinyShinyShiny · 12/03/2016 21:12

I've just read the whole thread with a massive grin on my face. Lovely man sounds very lovely indeed and you deserve every moment of happiness.

Somerville · 12/03/2016 23:53

Updates and responding to everyone which I've dismally failed at anyway after being offered thoughtful advice, are now unusual on mn? Confused

Twofalls - You and your friendship group have clearly been such an amazing support to your widowed friend. How lovely that she and her husband met at WAY.
Sometimes I feel guilty for the amount of help people give me (I don't think I've done any ironing since everything happened, and that's not an exaggeration) and wonder if they are a bit annoyed by it behind my back. So it's heartwarming for me to hear that you clearly aren't with your friend.
And now I'm wondering if part of my reticence in telling RL people about Lovely man is because I'm still getting (and needing) so much help.

Re seeing him again - I mean definitely yeah through work but that won't be for a while. But we discussed him coming up to my neck of the woods, and today he asked which (calendar) date works for that (not-a? I think...) date. And we've also agreed to go out dancing but that will be after Easter as I'll need to pull in some serious babysitting-favours and it is a bit scary because lets face it dancing with someone you're lusting over could get very physical very fast
If this progresses it is going to be reliant on Lovely being prepared to come to my neck of the woods regularly, since I'm only in his once a week, term time only. Confused So I guess my answer is that I'm hopeful bloody desperate to see him next week but am not 100% sure yet in case he can't make the night my sitter can do or pulls out or doesnt turn up but GOD I hope not

WordGetsAround - Thanks for the Jane Eyre rec Grin Just listened to first episode. Great adaption. Though Rochester is a bad boy, poor Jane. here if anyone else interested

Thanks everyone for being so kind. I just realised I haven't even had one LTB Shock Grin

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notonyurjellybellynelly · 13/03/2016 03:55

and it is a bit scary because lets face it dancing with someone you're lusting over could get very physical very fast

Well I say feel the fear Wink and do it anyway ]grin]

saffronwblue · 13/03/2016 04:41

What a happy thread. My dear friend was widowed at the age of 31 , had 2 tiny dc, and was dating after about a year. She remarried a couple of years later and has had a happy marriage with ongoing connection with her first inlaws. She did find it very hard at such a young age to know how to behave as a widow.

Flossiesmummy · 13/03/2016 07:05

I'm sure he'll be more than happy to make an effort to get to your neck of the woods. He likes you!

Nawwwww. I love this thread.

HandbagHelper · 13/03/2016 07:33

I am happy you are creating new happy memories somerville. Good for you.

Theneedygonzales · 13/03/2016 07:53

Just lay in bed reading this! What a lovely thread, I hope it continues to be lovely for you OP Smile

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