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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

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AnotherEmma · 29/03/2016 19:37

I don't think inviting you to his friends' wedding is slow progress! I love how up front you have both been about how much you like each other and want to try having a relationship Smile

DiggerDigsDogs · 30/03/2016 06:37

^ what Anotheremma said!

Wedding invites are not slow burn. Smile

Somerville · 30/03/2016 09:20

Okay, there's clearly a significance to being his plus one to a wedding that I missed... Grin

Yes thinking about slow burning , that doesn't describe us emotionally. We've acknowledged that our feelings for each other are very strong. But we're taking slowly the stuff that's within our control; like him meeting my DC and physical stuff.

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Goingtobeawesome · 30/03/2016 09:22

Definitely a good plan.

DH and I were months together before we did the deed. My ex friend took the piss out of me knowing I loved him before I had had sex with him. It pissed me off big time. Sex complicates things and makes feelings out of things that aren't necessarily there. I knew I loved him. And I still do.

Mouseinahole · 30/03/2016 09:25

No help I know but I remarried 19 months after being widowed. There was no criticism, my first mil came to the wedding!

blindsider · 30/03/2016 09:26

Don't wait too long as I can imagine there is nothing worse than being completely in love with someone you are not physically compatible with??

AnotherEmma · 30/03/2016 09:36

Not physically compatible? I don't really believe that tbh... Unless one partner has really "out there" sexual tastes that the other doesn't share, I'm pretty sure most couples can have a sexual relationship they both enjoy. The key is communication and practice Wink

FWIW OP I think being up front about feelings and taking the physical side slowly (also waiting to introduce him to your DCs) is very sensible.

blindsider · 30/03/2016 09:41

Another Emma

Fair enough.

I hope i don't have cause to come back and say ITYS Wink

LotsofDots · 30/03/2016 09:42

So pleased to hear all is still going forward in such a lovely fashion.

You know when I said this was like the plot of a Richard Curtis film and you said it wasn't somer? I would like to add the evidence exhibit 12 - you accidentally said 'lickable jaw'.

Joking aside, I have no experience of your situation but I think the way in which you appear to be handling everything is admirable.

AnotherEmma · 30/03/2016 09:48

blindsider Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in waiting until marriage Grin I just think waiting a few months wouldn't do any harm and might be a good thing for some.

blindsider · 30/03/2016 10:30

Anotheremma

Now you are just coming across as impatient Grin

LarkDescending · 30/03/2016 10:46

Loving the Lovely updates. I can't help a wry grin at "slow-burning" - you should have seen me and my widower at first! He was still so raw when we met (12 months widowed) that there was no place for anything other than tender friendship for many months at the beginning. But that was fine, and love is patient.

I agree with those who say that wobbles are inevitable as you take tangible steps to move forward, and that it's not about the person or the particular timing, but just goes with the territory. Lovely is clearly brimming with emotional intelligence and empathy amongst his other laudable attributes - just what the doctor ordered! Wishing you all the best going forward.

Goingtobeawesome · 30/03/2016 14:01

Coming back to say ITYS and a Wink on this lovely thread would mean I'd have to throw rotten eggs at you Hmm.

Somerville · 30/03/2016 15:45

I'm with Goingtobeawesome and Emma on physical compatibility - Beyond the basics of knowing you fancy each other (which has been established Grin), my experience to this point in my life is that it's emotional intimacy that makes physical intimacy mind blowingly great.

Mouseinahole- how lovely that your Mil came to your second wedding Smile

Lark - I'm glad your widow found you, not many people are interested in a long period of friendship first. Yes, I agree that Lovely has lots of emotional intelligence and the fact that someone so amazing is prepared to be patient with me makes me like him even more. Smile

Lotsofdots- exhibit 12 is still making me cringe. Especially as Lovely drove to his parents home for Easter afterwards, and he seems to be a bit of a blabber mouth to his family. Really hope he hasn't told them that one...

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blindsider · 30/03/2016 17:23

Goingtobeawesome

What can I say? I am a badaaaas - mwahahahaha

Somerville · 01/04/2016 21:10

If anyone is still following this, thought the funny turn my dull night (unpacking and laundry) has taken might make some of you laugh.

Lovely’s been texting me all evening from the stag do for the wedding he’s invited me to. Mostly assuring me he's trying not to drink too much so he's not hungover for our date tomorrow stealth boast. Then he phoned, sounding a bit slurred Grin and apologising for someone who is a bit of a dick writing something on FB and please don’t be offended Somer.
My DC aren’t yet in bed so I told him I can’t really chat and haven’t seen FB.
Him: Just look. Don’t be mad. I realllllllly like you Somer….
Grin

So half an hour ago he was tagged, with a photo of him grinning into his phone (taken from a distance on someone else phone). His friend (I think it's the best man) has written. “Caught in the act of sexting his girlfriend. The bar tab’s on Lovely.”
Shock Grin Grin

There are comments below, I think from partners of all the guys there, a few going awww or Lovely has a girlfriend? Then the bride-to-be has put ‘Yes, she’s called Somer, you’ll meet her at the wedding.’ Grin
The best man has just written 'He says just texting not sexting. ' I bet he was nagged into that by Lovely

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Horsemad · 01/04/2016 21:47
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Cabrinha · 01/04/2016 21:50

Like sexting would be a bad thing 😂

Lovely Lovely. It's a good sign he's texting you from a stag do 😀

Somerville · 01/04/2016 22:04

Now he's stuck with the drinks bill anyway, he keeps phoning me. Grin Even though he's getting loads of shit for it. Grin

I'm teasing him for forcing a correction on the sexting but not on me being his girlfriend (on the grounds that he's never used the girlfriend word to me )

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Somerville · 01/04/2016 22:10

Ha, after bouncing him into asking me to be his girlfriend, I just told him that I'll consider it.

How many minutes shall I leave it before replying? Grin

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hilbil21 · 01/04/2016 22:13

Awwww I love all this xx

iamEarthymama · 01/04/2016 22:17

So lovely to hear this.
Thanks for sharing your story xx

Somerville · 01/04/2016 23:15
Smile I told him we'd talk about all this tomorrow, since he's now very drunk merry.
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AnotherEmma · 01/04/2016 23:41

Are there any script writers on this thread? Please someone turn it into a romcom screenplay! I'm serious!

Somer you and Lovely are ridiculously adorable Grin

Snazarooney · 01/04/2016 23:54

I have loved reading this entire thread this evening. Best thread ever with loveliest OP ever!