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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

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Cabrinha · 23/03/2016 17:47

Forget the kittens, he walked the dog with you.
Told you - everyone wants a step dog Grin

Somerville · 23/03/2016 18:28

Yes you were right, Cab. Grin
It was even his suggestion to walk her. I thought it might be to get an opportunity for lots of hand holding, but once we got to a field it was all about the dog and the tennis ball he's brought Angry Grin

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WellWhoKnew · 23/03/2016 18:30

So he's only after you for one thing? Your dog!

Told you: you should have had Oyster and Asparagus Salad.

Somerville · 23/03/2016 18:38

Arf at someone being after me for my stinker of a dog.

I actually love oysters. And asparagus. Not so keen on actually yellow bananas.

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Goingtobeawesome · 23/03/2016 18:40

He's a keeper Grin

RortyCrankle · 23/03/2016 18:46

All I can say is WOW. This has got to be one of the greatest threads ever. You sound lovely and Lovely sounds adorable.

Flowers and wishing you all the very best for the future - keeping us up to date could run into several threads Grin.

RortyCrankle · 23/03/2016 18:47

PS I already have a wedding outfit and hat, just let me know where and when Grin

Somerville · 23/03/2016 19:26

You lot are incorrigible Grin

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cattychatty · 23/03/2016 19:35

Just read the entire thread and actually cheered at one point much to the puzzlement of my boys. Op it all sounds "lovely" Smile

Goingtobeawesome · 24/03/2016 07:36

Love is a lovely thing..

blindsider · 24/03/2016 07:57

He's a keeper

How could you tell? Was he wearing big padded gloves?

sorry Blush

newyear16 · 24/03/2016 13:42

Having you been 'seeing' each other for two weeks and not yet snogged?

AnotherEmma · 24/03/2016 13:49

newyear Oh they've snogged just no licking yet Grin

Somerville · 24/03/2016 17:23

Emma Grin Grin

Nice seeing something that's made me smile after a tough day, thanks. Smile

We spent the afternoon at the cemetery, as we're leaving for a holiday this evening so won't be able to 'visit' DH on Easter Sunday like last year.

It's the first time I've been there since meeting Lovely, so it stirred up all sorts of emotions. And then my DC started noticing that I seemed sadder than I was the last few visits, so I had no choice but to pull myself together. On the outside at least.

It's not that I think DH would mind about all this. In fact, I think he would like Lovely; I wouldn't pursue this with him otherwise. But I do feel a weird kind of guilt that the intensity of how much I like Lovely feels stronger, some of the time, than how much I miss DH.

I also felt this crash of responsibility, as the DC talked about all the things they miss about DH. He wasn't perfect of course, and I work hard to remember that, and to remind them of that, but he was bloody great, and really hands on and constantly there for me and for them. My DC loved having a dad, and I could be wrong, but I suddenly got this really strong sense that they'll want anyone I'm with to fulfil that role in their lives. That's bloody scary.

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AnotherEmma · 24/03/2016 17:54

Glad I made you smile Smile

Sorry you had a difficult day. All your feelings sound very natural and normal to me. And I hope you can let go of the guilt about your new relationship sometimes having a stronger pull than missing your old relationship - that seems healthy to me.

Maybe one day Lovely will make a great stepdad, maybe he won't, but either way he will never replace their dad and that's ok. Flowers

numberseventeen · 24/03/2016 22:39

Somer I'm also a lurker who has de-lurked to say that I've been consumed byreading your thread since day one and I'm soooo rooting for you and Lovely.

You sound equally as lovely as Lovely and I'm sorry that today has been tough. I can't imagine the roller coaster you've been on but it warms my heart to hear how you are enjoying the 'ups'.

Keep smiling and keep being you and pleeeeeeeaassseee keep us updated

blindsider · 25/03/2016 00:30

Somer

I can only imagine what a mixed bag of emotions you are experiencing, they are all natural and to be expected.

The most important thing to remember is, if DH loved you he would want you and his kids to be happy. Remember that when you are having misgivings or feelings of guilt.

babyinthacorner · 25/03/2016 06:14

I know it's easy to say, but please don't feel guilty! It's been 16 months - that's a long time to be missing your DH and grieving. So it's perfectly natural that your new feelings for Lovely should now start to overtake missing DH.
It's going to be a roller coaster that you'll never get off, I think. You'll never stop missing DH or thinking what if. But hopefully you'll experience lots of new highs with this Lovely man who you so deserve in your life.
What has happened to you is not the norm. You're not supposed to lose your husband so young with 3 kids to bring up. So take all the new happiness you can get and hold on tight through the inevitable lows.
You really do deserve all the happiness coming your way so please please don't ever feel like you're doing it wrong - you are awesome!

FuckYouChrisAndThatHorse · 25/03/2016 08:19

How on earth have I missed reading this thread?!

Somer, you are very lovely and definitely deserve a Mr Lovely too.

I'm not surprised you feel up and down. Don't try to compare the feelings. It's not that you don't love and miss your dh. You don't need to feel sad to still be doing that. You will always love him, but there is space for more and you deserve to be happy too.

I remember the dcs talk with dh. I was divorced. He's a few years younger than me too (I strongly recommend it :o ). I didn't want more dcs.

We were also not-dating. He'd already told me he wanted children. I was trying to have the sensible, "I adore you, but this can't work because of practicalities" talk.

So I said, "It comes down to you wanting children, and I don't want more. I won't deny you a family."

And he took my hands and said, "When I said I wanted children, I want children in my life. I want to be a part of a family one day. I don't need my own biological children."

The git had an answer for everything :o

And yes to the lightheaded first kiss.

I even changed my mind about having more dcs, much to his surprise

Good men are great. No game playing, lots of easy chatting, both clearly showing you like each other. It's all good. Although I wasn't good at the chaste thing Blush but then I do think that divorce is different, insofar as you don't feel a need to be loyal to your XH in the same way as if you still love and respect them. (If that makes sense)

But it's ok to feel sad sometimes too. Take your time. There's no hurry.

KielyKiely · 25/03/2016 08:43

Lovely, lovely post FuckYouChris: this really is a lovely thread in so very many ways, We are all rooting for you OP, you will take this at your own pace and do the right thing by everyone, most importantly for yourself x

Somerville · 25/03/2016 10:08

Sorry to be so pathetic yesterday. These messages have all helped, thank you.

My parents have just taken the DC and dog out. I have missed calls from Lovely, and an email. He's noticed that the last time he heard from me was when he said about not being interested in seeing anyone else, and thinks he's scared me. Bless him. I've replied to say it's not that, just me working through some grief-stuff, and that I didn't mean to ignore him and am thinking about him.
Just waiting to hear back from him now

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Somerville · 25/03/2016 10:13

FuckYouChris - awww, you have your own Lovely. Smile Right down to being younger than you. Grin It's nice to hear about these kind of situations working out. I really enjoyed reading your post.
Thanks everyone else too.

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Goingtobeawesome · 25/03/2016 10:13

How utterly lovely that he isn't scared to share his vulnerabilities..

FuckYouChrisAndThatHorse · 25/03/2016 10:19

Shhh! I don't want my dh to know that I know he's lovely :o the madman thinks he's the lucky one!

There's a lot to be said for someone who is able to be honest without being needy.

I can't stand game playing. Dh is definitely the more sensitive and caring one of the two of us. We work well. I hope it works out for you too.

It's lovely to remember the first flush of love :)

Somerville · 25/03/2016 10:38

Fuckyouchris - Grin Grin
Actually he sounds like he is the lucky one, since you gave him a baby.

Goingtobeawesome - Yes I thought that too.

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