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Dating again (gulp) after being widowed

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Somerville · 07/03/2016 14:48

I haven't been active on mn for a while, but I find myself with no-one IRL to ask. Which is fucking ridiculous, I know. It's not that I don't have some good friends. But I feel stupid for being so uncertain about this. Also, like they might judge me for thinking about this so soon. (I was widowed 16 months ago. We were together for 18 years, right from Uni, married for 15. 3 kids who are amazing but still broken hearted. FUCK CANCER.)

Anyway, deep breath. I've become close to someone over the past 6 weeks while emailing about a project we're both involved with in different ways. (Both freelancers in creative fields who work on several projects at a time - this is the only one where our involvement overlaps.) This particular project is very personal to me, as it touches on loss and grief, and our e-conversations became quite deep and I felt like we clicked, and would perhaps become friends. I didn't think about him romantically before we met - mainly I think, because I'm too busy to think about anything much beyond my kids and my work.

On Friday evening we met for the first time, at the official launch of the project. There were a lot of people there, and I'm not gregarious (especially as this was the first big event I've gone along to since everything, and am still receiving some awkward condolences) and he clearly is outgoing. But we ended up chatting in a corner for nearly an hour, couldn't stop talking. I fell for him hard - massive, instant crush Blush. He's so tall, and his eyes are so blue, and I'd forgotten how nice it is to smell an attractive man, and listen to a deep voice... stupid stuff. Then we were interrupted and chatted to other people, though I kept looking over and seeing him smiling at me. I don't think I've smiled so much in ages. I had to leave to catch last train home while event was in full swing, and was too shy to go over and say goodbye.

I haven't heard from him in the few days since (though wouldn't have expected to). But my friend, who is heavily involved with this project and got me the gig, phoned me last night to say that he got her aside, after I left, and said that we had a connection that had come across in our emails and even more in person, and asked her if I had started dating. She told him that I haven't. That I'm not over my husband, and that my kids need a lot of my time. I guess that's all just about accurate. (I've been to a few dinner parties where I've been sat next to flirtatious single men who have not interested me at all.) Or has been, until now. She said she felt bad at discussing me behind my back, and also at speaking for me, but she didn't act like she thought she was materially wrong in what she'd said. I was too embarrassed/tongue tied to correct her. She's right. But also... he feels this connection too? He wants to know if I'm dating?

I've done no work since the school run this morning, just written a list of all the reasons why pursuing this would be a bad idea. (He doesn't have kids, and is I think a few years younger than me. I'm not having any more kids - couldn't do that to mine.)

Also, I have no time! I have a fucking spreadsheet rather than a diary, so full is my time. (My parents come and stay to have the kids one weekend a month, but that's it. One weekend a month for me, which I usually spend in a B&B on the coast, reading and running.)

And another also. He thinks I'm not dating, and I don't know how I'd let him know that I might be interested in dating (him). Should I call back my friend? Correct her, and she could tell him? Or would that look unprofessional, with this project? Shall I wait until it's over (at least 6 months)? Could I in the meantime at least ask her if he's as nice as he seems?

Lots of questions. Even writing this has helped clear my mind a bit. Thanks if you've read it. Any advice much appreciated.

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Somerville · 14/03/2016 22:40

Dungandbother - A friend whose DH walked out on her around the time that mine got ill has gone through a similar bewildering journey of grief as me. And she has had nothing like the support from her family and her colleagues.

Be kind to yourself as much as you can Flowers

In terms of the widower... I guess, trust your instincts. I'm also tempted to advise that you ask the mutual friend if he's ready to date and see if it gets back to him, because then at least you'd know

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Dungandbother · 14/03/2016 22:57

Thank you for the time you've given me Somer xx

GColdtimer · 15/03/2016 16:36

Do you have another not-a-date today Somer?

Somerville · 15/03/2016 18:00

I do, twofalls. And I've just realise that I'm a lot less nervous this time. Smile
Which is just as well, since I'll have to do this one sans vin, as we're both driving.
But still bit nervous because I'm going to ask him about our respective ages, and kids. Also, I'd like to kiss him sober.

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Goingtobeawesome · 15/03/2016 18:44

I hope you have a lovely time, Somerville.

Jenijena · 15/03/2016 19:58

Hope he's just as charming sober. Though will miss the slightly tipsy updates :)

WordGetsAround · 15/03/2016 21:34

I hope you're having a wonderful time! It might be worth just living in the moment for a while and not overthinking too much - enjoy!!

GColdtimer · 15/03/2016 22:23

Hope you had fun :)

Buttercup443 · 15/03/2016 22:31

This is the most loveliest thread I've read in ages. Somer,I hope you have had a lovely evening!! Flowers Wine

diggerdigsdogs · 15/03/2016 23:03

Hope he got to second base the evening has gone well. Grin

SwearySwearyQuiteContrary · 15/03/2016 23:31

Loving the hope and positivity shining through this thread. Good luck!

Somerville · 15/03/2016 23:31

You lot are sweet Smile. And no, Digger (if second base means what I think it does - boob grope?) But the only lovelier kiss than a quick drunken Lovely kiss is proper slow Lovely kissing.You know when it makes you actually feel a bit high? That.

We met at a gastro pub half way, to have a bit longer together Blush And he brought up the kid conversation. It went about the best I had hoped for. Also, he's already heard from our friend/colleague that I'm three and a half years older than him. Shock

Then we had fun and flirted and ate nice food and flirted and gossiped about work stuff and flirted and he walked me over to my filthy car and was a bit Shock at the state of it and it was funny rather than embarrassing Smile. And then we chatted on hands free the whole way home.

I'm going to tell Dd1 that I'm thinking about dating in general (not specifically about Lovely yet, unless she takes it very well) but GOD I'm knackered now. Lone-parenting and working FT and fitting in dating too isn't for the faint hearted, is it? Confused

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AnotherEmma · 15/03/2016 23:32

Aw, that sounds like it went well Smile
How did the children conversation go down? Did he say he wants some of his own?

TheFormidableMrsC · 16/03/2016 00:00
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Klaptout · 16/03/2016 00:38

I have so loved reading this, I am cheering you on, not in stalker like way, obviously.
I was widowed nearly 8 years ago, like you I have three children (now young adults)
I've dated and had a relationship for a while that didn't work out, but I'm chatting to a guy on a widowed dating site, all looking promising.
I would say that when you are widowed it's very different than being divorced.
There is no choice when your spouse dies, as I say, you haven't finished loving them yet.
But here's the thing, you are and can go on to loving another, being a widow is almost like having a different sort of ' baggage' I don't particularly like that phrase but I hope you know what I mean.
When you've had a good marriage you are able and want to have another good relationship.
It's not wrong, far from it.
I made a lot of friends through WAY, it was an important step I felt.
I have dated again a whilst the first relationship didn't work, mainly due to the combination of respective offspring.
I am putting tentative feelers out an am having a great time building up another relationship, fingers crossed that it will work for me like it is for you and Mr lovely, I'm just a bit smitten with your description of him.
I'm cheering you on from here.
It's lovely to see your not-a-date flourishing.
I will be watching and waiting for your next update.

NisekoWhistler · 16/03/2016 02:35

Chatting on hands free, wow that is a wonderful sign. I'm so so pleased for you Somer.
I do how the chat with your DD goes well. Good luck for Thursday.

WordGetsAround · 16/03/2016 07:00

Ohhhh! How very exciting! So pleased it went so well - you got to love a bit of romance!! Is Thursday still in too?

wordassociationfootball · 16/03/2016 09:43

Filthy car - snap.
Three and a half year age gap - snap (he was 26 and I'd turned 30 when we met) When he hits 45 and starts needing doc and dentist a bit more, the gap, tiny anway, totally disappears Grin

LotsofDots · 16/03/2016 09:53

Sounds like a lovely evening, does tomorrow count as a date yet, or is it still a not-a-date?

Somerville · 16/03/2016 10:23

AnotherEmma - A previous relationship fell apart because of the angst of fertility treatment Sad He hated seeing his ExGF go through it and he's made his peace with not having his own naturally.
He said it's not a secret but he was nervous to tell me (because he doesn't want me to think he's trying to step into an already created family) but wanted to so that there were no hurdles in the way of me coming out with him and his friends Smile He's very interested in adoption or fostering and I think I could get my head around that, possibly.

TheFormidableMrsC - Grin

Klaptout - not in a stalker like way Grin
And thank you for sharing your experience. I really do appreciate it. I've been thinking I should try something else with WAY, as so many on here have found it so helpful.

Niseko - Thanks Smile

WordGetsAround - Yes! It's worked out well; I'm having meeting with DD2's teacher while babysitter picks her up. Then coming home while she takes them to their clubs. Lovely is arriving here before the DC get back and then we're walking round to my local.

wordassociation - Oh, wow! The gap feels massive at the moment, but I know it shouldn't. He can't get why I think it's an issue, and I've decided we have enough real complications to bother being hung up about artificial ones.

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Somerville · 16/03/2016 10:37

LotsofDots - Lovely asked that too. Still not-a-date BUT mainly because I told DD1 I'd talk to her before I started dating, so it's my mental fudge to not feel too guilty for not doing that yet.
I agreed with Lovely that tonight we'd discuss what actually dating might look like for us. Smile

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Somerville · 16/03/2016 10:38

God, tonight, I wish. Tomorrow night.

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Goingtobeawesome · 16/03/2016 10:47

Grin. Smitten couple. Lovely Flowers.

WhoTheFuckIsSimon · 16/03/2016 11:11

Oh this is the best thread ever!

macshoto · 16/03/2016 11:27

Given female life expectancy of 89 and male of 86, arguably on count back you are the same age Grin so you can stop worrying.

Great to see things are going well.

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