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GettingBiggerBird · 05/11/2008 09:55

Hoping to drag my fellow pregnant mums and those whose bodies have been recently or not-so-recently liberated over from our ante-natal thread. We're not as experienced as those on the d'y ever ones but a lot slower . And any new ladies please join us, here's the list so far:

PazzaPlusTwo: twin girls born April 28th 2008 - Anais and Carmen
Neenztwinz: twins born May 6 2008, Esther and Theo
Accessorizequeen: twins born Sept 27, Felix and Bridget - East Yorkshire
Merrymarigold: non id twins (girl and boy) born 22 Oct, Jude and Mirissa - Forest Gate, East London
jennyroper: id girl twins due dec 15th - New Zealand (but am proudly British)
Anjlix: id twin girls due 24 dec (37 weeks) - London, booked at St Thomas.
GBB: b/g twins due Dec 25 - Hackney, London
PBH: twin girls due 9 Jan 2009
MEL2005: twins due(40w)10th jan 2009, Norfolk
Pheonixnights:Non ID twins due 17th Jan
Ewemoo: id twins due end Jan 08
Tallulahbelle: twins due Jan 08
Nellstar: id twins due 18 Feb 2009 (well, that's 40 weeks)
Balamorybaby: twins due 11th March - East Sussex
Barbarella: triplets due 9th April 2009
Swerve: twins due 28 May 2009

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MUM41plus5 · 06/02/2009 09:03

Morning all

Fran managed to see your profile, pics are lovely your son looks a very chuffed little big brother bit like my 5 year old. You live not too far from me, weather is terrible this morning, sleet and horrible so got out of school run this morning dh did it today, logged on to do weekly asda shop but popped in to see how everyone are.....
hope all is well with you all

Frangipani74 · 06/02/2009 14:18

Hurrah, made it work.

Mum41 I had a suspicion that you were from somewhere near me when I looked at your lovely pics, as your captions read little 'fella' - You hear that a lot round here. Where are you in East Anglia?

AQ Sorry to hear yours no longer sleeping through - it's really tough when you think it's sorted and then you're no longer getting unbroken sleep. Just think in a few more months (hopefully) all of our obssessions with whether our angels are sleeping 12hrs or not will have passed.

MUM41plus5 · 06/02/2009 16:08

Hi Fran I'm from Lowestoft, had my boys at the JPUH, I'm guessing you had your girls at Norfolk & Norwich or should that be Norwich & Norfolk, never quite sure

mel2005 · 06/02/2009 18:11

oh fran, just looking at your lovely photos and noticed you are a fellow chicken keeper.
cant wait until mine start laying again.
you will have to shout when you next go to the twins group at wymondham and we could have a mini-mumsnet meet-up. are you up for that mum41?

Frangipani74 · 06/02/2009 19:38

Mel Hi how is Oscar doing now - fully recovered from his op? Have you made it to the Wymondham twins group yet? I haven't, haven't strayed any further than diss, as my little ones seem to have an aversion to their car seats, usually sets them off screaming - very distressing. Eventually I would like to get to twins group - so a meet up would be great. I was a chicken keeper, but decided to get rid of them before twins arrived - thought I'd never get round to the daily feeds and then weekly mucking out. I'm planning to get some more once babies are a bit older. You must be very busy now chickens and four children, do you have other animals? What sort of chooks do you have?

Been looking at everyone's pics, like Mum41 was saying nice to put faces to the little ones we're talking about, but looked at so many now that I have them all muddled in my head as to who belongs to who. But lovely to see them all anyway.

Mum41 Yes was in Norfolk and Norwich, it was lovely this time round, was well looked after.
Have a good weekend all.

NotQuiteSoBigBird · 08/02/2009 13:20

Hi everyone, hope you're all well. Things are good at this end - I had a night out in the West End last night and felt temporarily liberated. But it was lovely to get home to my LOs too. And the angels obviously realised I wasn't there in the earlier part of the night because they only woke up once between 11pm and 9am, what a treat...

AQ when are you starting weaning? Isn't it common for sleepless nights to happen again at their stage as the babies are starting to need more to eat? My 'friend' is having exactlyt he same issues - so frustrating to have them waking again after establishing good sleep patterns.

Loving all the photos of everyone's broods - I must get DH to sort ours out. We have some of them smiling now, so adorable (not that I'm biased).

It's a beautiful day here, and DH is making us a lovely roast, having our first visitors over for lunch. It almost feels normal here .

MUM41plus5 · 08/02/2009 15:56

Hello notquitesobigbird your night out sounds great and how do you manage to get photos with a smile, it seems whenever the boys are on a right little giggler and we get out the camera or camcorder, the minute they see those little lights, on come the serious faces, any tips would be nice

Hi AQ I started to offer mine solids around 5 1/2 6 months when thier sleep pattern became broken, with my older girls it was the norm to start weaning around 3 months and even my 5 year old it was 4 months but then they took a few months to get used to it so I was very surprised at how quickly the boys took to it, wasn't long before they were on 3 meals a day and the sleep pattern we had established soon returned

Pheonixnights · 08/02/2009 19:57

Hi everyone - Feeling a bit flat here, my dts are terrible at night!! I am so exhausted.

I feel like we have taken a step backwards, I could handle it when they were waking up every 3 hours, feeding and then going back to sleep but now they take ages to settle. Often I put them back down in the cot and they wake an hour later. They end up sleeping on me and dh which I don't feel happy about due to safety especially when we are so tired!! They are 5 and a half weeks and still BF. I don't think introducing formula will help as they aren't always hungry they just want cuddles!! We are swaddling them which they sometimes kick off. I am wondering whether to use their sleeping bags, I am managing to sometimes grap a nap so I feel a bit more human but I just feel a bit low wondering if I will ever sleep more than 2 hours in a row again!!

PazzaPlusTwo · 08/02/2009 21:51

Hi everyone! Long time no MN...

Phoenix yes it WILL get better, much better!

Swaddle a bit tighter maybe? Sleeping bags good too. One of mine loved a v tight swaddle, the other preferred a sleeping bag.

One step back, one step forward ... overall each week it gets a bit easier ... yes it IS hard but you CAN get through it!

Pazza xxx

Frangipani74 · 09/02/2009 09:53

Hi Pheonix, I'm feeling your pain! Bloody tough eh? Definitely keep up with the swaddling, mine usually cry once I've swaddled them, but they settle quicker if they're well swaddled, if they get a hand out they try to suck it but then get frustrated with it and won't sleep. 5 and a half weeks is very early days, it will get better, mine are now 11weeks and one of mine has slept right through a handful of times, not consequtively though and the other has managed six and seven hour stretches at times. I do try and make them wait in between feeds - not letting them cry but I don't feed them if they're just grizzling a bit. We did a stint of formula feeding at night but it didn't make any difference for us and was too much hassle.

After weeks of frustration having difficulties settling them early in the night, we discovered a couple of things that made a difference for us. It seems to be important that they get a decent amount of naps in the day and that we get them upstairs by 6pm to start the night feed - we've found that babies that are over tired are very difficult to settle and they have more unsettled nights. Sometimes we'd be three hours getting one of ours to go down. (we aim to get them to have four or more hours naps in day - it's a struggle and I often end up carrying one or both round in slings just to get them to stay asleep)

We've managed to get one baby to take a dummy, and the other will sometimes settle if offered a little finger to suck on.

We also use a white noise - womb sounds CD that we leave on all night - not sure how much difference it makes, but babies aren't used to sleep in complete silence, so maybe it's comforting for them.

We had been routinely waking them at 11pm for a night feed to help them go further, this didn't seem to work for ours, when we stopped it they didn't wake at 11 but just slept to the time they had previously been waking up at naturally, so we were just making extra work for ourselves.

One of mine is not such a good sleeper, she will often wake 30 - 45 mins after going down, she will usually go back down after a little extra feed. Babies cluster feed in the early evening to stock up for the night ahead, so we look on this one as just a bit more cluster feeding.

In trying to do the best we could for our first son we inadvertently taught him to wake frequently for feeds in the night. we really struggled with him and he's now 2.5 and still doesn't sleep that well, so we're trying to do everything we can to make sure we don't teach our twins any bad habits, but we're not fans of leaving them to cry so you have find some way to soothe them that gives them the least help but doesn't cause distress for anyone.

Sorry I've gone on a bit - got on my hobby horse! We've had a hideous weekend - toddler up with vomitting and diahroeah (not sure on spelling!) and lots completely histerical tantrums in the day. And today an outing to the dentists oh joy.

MUM41plus5 · 09/02/2009 10:33

Morning all

phoenix I have to say I pretty much agree with fran, I'm new to mumsnet and putting thoughts and ideas down onto paper, or net in this case isn't the easiest for me yet and last time I tried a long message it all disapeared as I was posting but will give it anther go.....

I guess in a way we established a night sleeping routine pretty much baby led, I must point out though after bf for a few weeks (long story) we were formula feeding so may make a difference.
Baby led in the respect that we also didn't wake them specific times for feeds, if they woke we would feed and then around 8 weeks they began to go for longer between feeds and if they did wake we would keep any nightime contact as low key as possible.
We too would only feed them if they would not settle and it became more of a cry than a grumble, I discussed this with my husband and we both agreed we were lucky in that the grumble rarely turned into a cry and they would settle but would have been different if they had of cried, I think that depends on your own personal preference, and I think by 8 weeks we have or are begining to learn the needs of our babies cries.
By around 12 weeks they would both go through around 12 hours more sometimes.
I do believe the bedtime routine is very important, I believe that when we put them to bed we say a few words night night, god bless etc etc (won't go into all the slushy sentimental words) but I think even this is a routine message its sleep time.
We have always put them down for the night awake and sometimes when they wake in the night they have a little chat then go back to sleep with no intervention.
The one thing I have done differently is I do try to keep mine occupied during the latter part of the day to wear them out, we have found this has worked for us but all babies are different.

At 5 and 1/2 weeks I was backwards and forwards to hospital with an infection (long story again) so at this point we had no routine for the whole family let alone the twins and yet it now seems so far away, it will get better and the not so good nights will soon become a memory.
I miss those quite night feeds and cuddles just as the sun comes up and the birds were singing, the lack of sleep and everything else long forgotten
Sorry if I rambled on

fran good luck at the dentist, hope you feel better as the day goes on, weather at least not too bad here, just a bit foggy, dry at least

MUM41plus5 · 09/02/2009 11:00

mel2005 meet up would be lovely, I don't know Wymonham too well though, maybe somewhere inbetween oh and obviously when the weather is completly clear of all this snow and ice they've forcast even more of!

Pheonixnights · 09/02/2009 18:35

Thanks for all the replies ladies. I feel better knowing that other people have or are going through the same. My other 2 children are 8 and 4 and I think I have forgotten what the night times are like!! I do feel more human today and more positive. I think I will feel better when the weather has improved as well. Forecasted for more snow this way tomorrow!

Last night the dts were better in their grobags. My litte girl is smaller and still wakes every 3 hours, my ds would go longer but I wake him up to feed. I hope they go longer in a couple of weeks. Its something to look forward to!!

Frangipani74 · 09/02/2009 20:00

Sorry Pheonix forgot you already had 2 others, you already know what your doing. Harder though with 2 at a time though eh? Anyway glad last night was a bit better for you.

NotQuiteSoBigBird · 10/02/2009 10:56

Pheonix, weeks 4 and 5 were the worst so far for us (they're 8 weeks now), they were very unsettled all night. I started giving a full formula feed at 6.30 pm (instead of a top-up) and it seemed to make a big difference - they slept till 10 or later, then I seemed to have more milk for each of the night feeds so they would go a bit longer for each of those and settle better. We still have nights where that doesn't seem to happen, or sometimes better nights where they go longer, but it's still roughly a longer stretch in the first half of the night then a bit longer than 3-hourly between feeds in the second half. I think my DD would go longer but I don't want to risk waking every 2 hours or less just for one baby so wake them both. And I had definitely forgotten what nights were like with a newborn!! Hope it keeps getting better for both of us...

Nellstar · 12/02/2009 21:07

Hello all. It's been a while but my lovely little boys were hauled out into the world 3 weeks ago at 36 weeks and a small but respectable 5 pounds 4 oz each. Didn't enjoy the section or the fact that they were got out so early one bit but so relieved they are well and thriving. DS1 coping very well for the most part as are we bar the nights. O lord. Am bf except 10pm formula, can't manage to get them both on at once (one always comes off and they feed poorly it seems this way) but result is I seem to be up nearly all night. They are still very sleepy in the day. Really must sort this out for my own sanity. Tried to wake them both at same time but they are growing at very different rates (hooray for now as we can tell them apart easily) so they don't take equal amounts so it doesn't seem to buy me more sleep. But am potty about them and only downer is I feel guilty about spending so little time with DS1..Haven't managed to follow this thread so congrats to anyone newly pregnant/just given birth etc.Got to go - a babe in need!

NotQuiteSoBigBird · 13/02/2009 17:51

Hi Nell - good to hear from you and congratulations. Feeling your pain on the nights - we had a particularly bad one last night but overall they are getting better. I do feel like I'm existing in some parallel universe, a bit like being underwater but with the cries of babies strangely clear .

Do your lovely new boys have names yet?

Frangipani74 · 13/02/2009 20:36

Congratulations Nell, lovely to have more precious little babies in our midst. Are your boys identical apart from size then? My girls are like chalk and cheese, they don't even look like sisters let alone twins. Try not to stress too much over the tandem feeding - I did at the beginning, stress that is, we still haven't cracked it, I give it a go every now and then but find individual feeding works best for them at the moment. As yours get bigger they'll become more efficient feeders so even if you do have to do them seperately it won't take quite so long. Tricky though when you have another child to share your time with, I have that problem too - quite exhausting. Are you recovering well from the op. We'll look forward to more news when you can spare a minute.

readyfornumber2and3 · 14/02/2009 16:54

Hi all just thought I would join in

I am 12+2 and found out on tueday that we are having twins (just about over the shock lol)

looking forward to getting to know you all and picking up so tips and advice along the way x

Frangipani74 · 14/02/2009 19:42

readyfornumber2and3 (but are you really ) congratulations. How old is number 1? Anyway glad to welcome another twin mummy, if we can't give advice we're always here to listen when you want to beam about how wonderful your twins are or when you want to shed a few tears about how exhausting it is.

Pheonixnights · 16/02/2009 10:03

Congratulations Nell on your new arrivals and hello readyfornumber2and3!

Thngs are finally calming down here!! For the last 2 nights the babies have been going for 5 hours inbetween feeds and have generally been easier at night time! It has only taken me 30 minutes to feed and settle them so getting a reasonable amount of sleep hooray!!! They have just turned 6 weeks old, I finally feel more human!! I have also had a go at expressing and managed to get 4 oz. I am hoping to get some in the freezer so I can have a "little" time for myself! I am desperate for a hair cut which seems like a mamouth task to book and get done! My lovely dh has also booked tickets for us to go and see Oliver in the west end in April. However I am unsure who is going to look after my 4 dcs whiclst we go!!! Think we will have to spread them out amongst Gps and friends! Hope everyone else is ok. I have all my kids at home this week so don't think I'll be on puter much!!

Frangipani74 · 16/02/2009 12:06

Glad things are settling down for you at the moment pheonix 5hrs at 6wks is good going. I know what you mean about getting hair cut, mine was due to be done when the babies arrived, so I hadn't had one for 5months, found a friend who had just qualified as hairdresser to come round to my house and do it for me easier but not quite as nice as getting out to the salon.

We've decided we need to work on routine here so I'm doing Baby Whisperer thing - my god it's exhausting, and I seem to spend nearly all day upstairs settling babies in their cots, but in a few weeks I'm hoping to reap the rewards - we'll see .

Hope all's well with everyone.

readyfornumber2and3 · 16/02/2009 15:16

Thanks for the welcome and Frangipani74 NO I dont think I am ready lol.

I know its very early days but we have just bid on and won a jane powertwin pro with 2 car seats on ebay, we got it for £250 so are very pleased as the cheapest we could find it new was £500!

I am starting to look forward to having twins now and although I know its gonna be alot harder than it was with DS (2.7) I still feel very lucky to be given this chance x

NotQuiteSoBigBird · 17/02/2009 10:58

Hello Ready and glad you're coming to terms with your impending arrivals.

Haircut - I want one of those too! DH looks alarmed when I mention it, though.

Pheonix, 5 hour stretches of sleep at 6 weeks is amazing, I'm luck if I get 4hrs, that's usually only Hope, not Vic. ".5 hours of unbroken sleep is a luxury! Well, at least I have the 12-week grail in sight, we're 9.5 weeks now.

Balamorybaby · 17/02/2009 21:51

Hi all, its been a while but wanted post a birth announcement. My beautiful b/g baby twins Daniel Joseph and Teagan Rose were born at 11.33pm and 11.38pm on St Valentines Day. Weighing in at 5lb 8 and 6lb 6 and 36+3 days old. Another brother and sister for James (13) Kira (12) Shauna (10) and Liam (2), we are all totally smitten x

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