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Momma, I hoovered!!!

estar and mommafeelgood - yes i can feed them fine in the cradle hold individually and "most" of the time in tandem in the rugby hold so i often end up going to one at a time. marslady sent me a link on compression and thats worked wonders for my son in particular. so seem to have turned a bit of a corner today with changing the routine a bit as well but at the same time just rolling with it a bit. i was doing a "first half" feed then play change etc then a "second half feed" on the other breast before back to bed but trying just knocking out the second half and working on a bigger first half/only half/full feed and it seems to be working a LOT better. how do other people do it? feed then play then sleep? or feed play feed sleep? any other variations that people have found good?

Morning all and welcome to Electronic and welcome back to Ineedadrink (dont we all...).

Mine are one month old and they feed, sleep, feed, cry, sleep, cry, feed, cry, sleep, feed etc. ie no routine and not much activity yet! They are just starting to like lying and kicking a bit, but mainly sleeping...

DS1 woke up 6 times last night . Can't decide whether to take him to nursery today or not. I really dont want to have him at home (sorry DS1...) as am alone until 2:30ish and would be here with all three. He is not unwell as such, no temperature, but still not really eating and also was awake until 9pm last night as couldn't settle, and was up before 7am today, so will be v tired, and never sleeps well at nursery. Should I take him and just get them to call if he is not happy? If I ask him outright if he wants to go he says no, but then he says no to almost everything (except, normally, would you like some cake, in which case the answer is "CAKE").

Really WILL catch up on other posts shortly .

ineedadrink, my two were very resistant to starting preschool. They started at 2, so a little older than yours, but they were very clingy and cried for most of the first term! TBH, I'm not convinced that hanging around helps. If you keep hanging around when they cry I'm not sure they want to take the step of being independant. The more I hung around for mine, the worse they got!

I think really, it's best not to make such a big thing of it, and keep goodbyes very brief so giving them as little time to get worked up as possible. Leave something of yours behind and tell them where you are going. I used to tell mine I was popping to the shop and I would be back very soon and I would bring back sweets fruit! If your dt2 isn't stopping once you leave, I'd think the best thing to do would be jsut leave him for half hour at first then gradually increase the length of stay. He neeeds to get used to the fact that you are leaving and that you will come back.

Once I got it down to a fine art, get there last minute, shove them through the door with a kiss, they barely had chance to start crying then I had left and they would stop. They absolutely adore going now, they will be 5 days once they are 3, and I they can't wait.

I think dt1 has cracked it!! He has been clean and dry all weekend. Now to start thinking about dt2. I've nicked tripsandtwins trick. I keep telling him the potty is for Big Boys and he is getting very interested. Poor boy tried to put pants on over his nappy the other day.

egg, if he is tired and won't sleep at nursery, will he come home in an even worse mood? I wouldn't worry about keeping off for lack of appetite personally, but the lack of sleep could equal one grumpy toddler!

He will be grumpy, but he will be grumpy THERE rather than here , and then once he is home there's only a couple of hours til bed and doula is here then to give moral support. Am about to try him with some weetabix, although think it is unlikely he will eat any . Just feel sorry for him as he wants cuddles and mummy.

Oh he's also not had a poo since Friday, which is not helped by the fact that he is hardly eating, but he never poos at nursery, so if the urge comes and he is there he will hold it in and make things worse .

To add to it, his small brother DT2 also seems to have poo issues. He went about 29hrs without one (he is only a month old) and then had streaks of blood . Was only blood in third instalment (he did three piles of it a few mins apart ).

Egg... will give thought to what you've posted (re poos) later. My DTs are 4 today and I need to sort their party etc and then I have to visit a client. So probably won't be back before tonight.

Mars I think you have enough on your plate to be worrying about my DTs poos! Happy birthday to your DTs though .

happy birthday to mar's dts!!

4!

just popping, have no hope of ever keeping up with this thread! i'm off work with my poorly DTs today, hopefully they'll be too ill to drive me nuts

Egg DT2 holds her poos in at nursery too - she says they've been told they're not allowed to poo at nursery and DT1 always comes home with slightly marked knicks - prob TMI at this time of day

And happy birthday to the mini mars I'd love to say that mine are so much easier since they turned 4 in Dec...

dingdong ! My DS1 is just a very private pooer and hates anyone to see, that's awful that they have been told not to!! Hope yours are nicely poorly today, in that they sit in front of Cbeebies in silence rather than cry all day.

Anyway, have dropped him off, with his stinking Blankie. Poor nursery staff...

DS2 now wailing. Time for milk and The Wright Stuff methinks.

Happy Birthday to the mini mars and have a good party. Sounds like fun .

Egg is it ok to let them watch cbeebies all day then? That's all they want to do, have got them doing playdoh at the moment, but I suspect it won't last long

thanks mommafeelgood its good to know what others do. i think i'll give it a go doing one breast for each feed, next feed other one and see how that goes.

Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you....

AAAAwwwww four today! How special.

marslady - My master and mistress have made me pheasant pluck this morning and I have missed the stagecoach to deepest darkest London. I will enquire if there is another one later today. Did see Richard Whittington jump onboard just in time.

dingdong when DS1 is ill he likes to get in his snugglesac in front of cbeebies and not move... playdoh is also the only other thing he can manage when poorly.

DS2 really struggling to take his milk as he is so snotty. He had another poo without any bloody streaks (thanks for link momma ), I think I will not worry and ask doula when she comes this afternoon (have saved poo esp for her to look at ).

imadingdong - dont think anyone has ever been mentally damaged by watching kids tv. Go for it!

ok, playdoh got stressy, tv back on, now they're wrestling in the sitting room not that ill then

I've broken up the fight, toy story saves the day, again!

ineedadrink - have had a thought regarding your dt's anxiety. Because at that age its difficult to explain to them in words what is going on, could you use some kind of tactile thing to sooth his fears? Like (don't know where this idea has come from), whenever you are going to be separated from him, give him a special teddy or other toy that he can grab on to (the same one every time). This would serve two purposes - a) something familiar and reassuring to keep hold of and b) he then knows when you are going to leave (ie nursery) and when you are not (ie mums and tots). No teddy = mummy's not going anywhere! Maybe start at home, so everytime you go to the toilet or need to go and make tea, hand him the teddy so he realises its only a short time till you're coming back. Then maybe start using it for things like leaving him with other people.

Does that make sense? It sounds good in my head anyway .

I have recently discovered with my grotty non-verbal dt2, that he is soooo much better when he understands exactly what is going on around him. I have never been a routine person, and just assumed that (since we have done it everyday since birth!) he knew that every morning he had to get dressed because that's what you do. But up until a month ago, he still kicked up a fuss every single morning about it. Then I bought this little set of plastic drawers from Argos so now they have an individual drawer each that they open in the morning and voila, their clothes are there ready. Well, he loves it! We've gone from him asking him to do everything for him and screaming if I don't, to him pushing me out of the room because he's determined to do it himself! And then, he runs upstairs to brush his teeth too! I don't think I'll ever understand him, but it seems that solid, visual things is the way to communicate with him so he understands what's going on and really takes it on board.

Oh our Toy Story got destroyed... I got it for DS1 a couple of weeks before Christmas as he loves Buzz and was under the weather for weeks. He loved it. He kept asking for "Buzz" all the time. It was great as I actually enjoy watching it too. Then one day we went to play it and it seems that DS1 had got hold of it at some point without us realising. It was so scratched it was unwatchable . Have not replaced it yet.

Just called nursery to explain that DS1 currently calls milk "moo" and that, as he is not really eating, if he asks for "moo" to please give him some milk (was not sure if they would understand what he wanted). Apparently he had just had some milk and a biscuit at snacktime and was shouting "more biscuit" loudly. I think he might be on the mend as yesterday he couldn't even finish a biscuit.

DS2 asleep in vibrating bouncy chair.

DD under activity arch for first time doing some kicking.

Me, I just opened a pack of mozzarella to have a nibble. There is none left now .

our toy story went in the toaster.

Mine absolutely adore it too, not really sure why dt2 decided to toast it. He was beside himself when he met woody and jessie, had to have pictures of them both and gave jessie a huge hug!

a packet of mozzarella? bleugh!

Estar - bless your little DT2, that sounds like such a good idea. My DS1 doesn't mind getting dressed in the morning but he always wants to wear his "purple top" (gap polo shirt that is indeed very nice but he is a bit obsessed with it). Might be a good idea for me to put out a set of clothes each morning in a special drawer so he can just find what is in there (not that he can dress himself of course).

DS1 has a similarish thing to what you suggest for ineedadrink. His Blankie used to only be for nighttime but now (since being a bit unwell before Christmas and then subsequent arrival of DTs) he has it whenever he needs some security, so has it sometimes at nursery when he feels the need, and then he just drops it on the floor when he is happy enough to let go. He is a bit too dependent on it for my liking mind you . Ineedadrink if you do try this option please please please take my advice and choose a teddy that has an exact duplicate so you can wash one / lose one without tragic consequences if he does get very attached. I have searched everywhere for an identical Blankie to DS's but they are not made any more and cannot find one on ebay or anywhere . If it was ever lost we would have weeks and weeks of screams and sleepless nights (it is bad enough when he is in the wash).

Right, better get DD into bed or her chair so she can get some sleep, it doesn't look like she will nod off under the arch.