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Why are Londoners so child un-friendly ??

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unhappyinlondon · 14/07/2005 21:01

I have become so frustrated with trying to make friends with other parents since my DS was born that I thought I would try and may be find some answers on this website.

DS is now 13 months old and despite numerous attempts to find friends, companions, coffee mates, etc. by various means (this website, other websites, toy libraries, NCT, etc) I have totally failed.

I am a very extroverted, happy, smiley individual with an absolutely adorable, gorgeous, smiley and happy 13 month old son. So what's wrong ?

Two recent experiences, I went to a baby birthday party at the invitation of a mother I had met through this website who had her own established mother & baby group - DH, DS and I arrived all happy and jolly thinking we would all have a good time. The hostess greets us, shows us the kitchen, says help yourself to drinks and that's that. She doesn't even bother to introduce us to her husband or parents, DH, DS and I are left sitting in a corner, no one talks to us, people stare at our baby, and that's that. We feel so uncomfortable we leave after 10 mins. flat.

Second example, I went to a local toy library, a well-known and popular one frequented by many local mums with babies and toddlers, no one talks to us, although I try to open up conversations with a few of the mothers, one mother nearly treads on DS's little fingers while he is crawling, and then looks down towards him in total horror as though it's his fault for getting in the way. DS tries to grab another mother's handbag from a chair (he does the same to my hand bag at home, loves to pull everything out and then put them back inside again). I stop son from grabbing woman's handbag and I look at her and say jokingly with a huge smile "he loves handbags" - she looks back at me with a horrid angry face as though DS has done something awful - he is only 13 months old for God's sake !

I have lived in the UK and another European country since 1977. I have lived in London for over 14 years. I have a British passport and so does DS. We are white caucasians (sorry to bring up the subject of race) and I have a "posh" British accent due to private education here in the UK. I live in an affluent part of London, i.e. I am just trying to say that physically and in other respects we do not stand out from our London neighbours.

But experiences like these since DS was born make me feel like an outcast. I have made two relatively good friendships with women from my ante natal clases, but due to travel distance I hardly ever see them now.

I am so unhappy, I keep planning to leave the UK for somewhere more child friendly. But DH has work commitments here and this fact stops us from leaving.

Does anyone else have similar experiences ??

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Meanoldmummy · 11/01/2006 19:47

Nanneh, when people are being openly attacked they to tend to become defensive. You'll find it's a common phenomenon. Logical, really, if you think about it. And I'm not a Londoner, I just don't like bigotry.

Klauz33 · 11/01/2006 19:48

Can I have a go at the French and the Dutch!!

Merchant bankers obviously -

Hello, XXX
What does your husband do? He's a banker.
How interesting?
So you are at home with the kids?
Yes, but we have a au-pair, nanny for two/three days a week. Shes very cheap, we don't bother with paying tax or paying for holidays.

Aaaargh - sorry I am bitter and twisted and yes I suppose its xenophobia. So actually, yes I agree posh london very unfriendly.

stinkweasel · 11/01/2006 19:48

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Twiglett · 11/01/2006 19:51

OP just wanted to complain and didn't want help or support it seems

She just wanted people to share their experiences of exactly the same with her

Of course, when people found her actions rude, she got offended

oh well .. you gets what you deserves here most of the time

spacedonkey · 11/01/2006 19:52

it's difficult to generalize about London tbh

I can imagine south ken is difficult - I live in Earl's Court and it's definitely not a family oriented part of London, but then you've got Stoke Newington, Wandsworth and other bits that are by all accounts much more family friendly - so it just depends where you live, surely?

nanneh · 11/01/2006 19:52

Klauz - I have a problem with the posh as well as the not so posh ! I guess I better leave London very, very quickly !!

stinkweasel · 11/01/2006 19:53

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Meanoldmummy · 11/01/2006 19:56

twig

Klauz33 · 11/01/2006 19:58

Spacedonkey - we were South Ken side of Earls Court, one of those big garden squares. It was great when I worked full time, but gave up work when DS2 was 1ish and DS1 3. Spent a year trying to make friends - used to spend a lot of time in Fulham playgroups. I suppose it would have changed when DS1 went to school - luckily we got out before then.

Twiglett · 11/01/2006 20:00

Oy .. Meanoldmummy .. are you a namechanger? and if so, who?

Meanoldmummy · 11/01/2006 20:11

No...I was WhenaChildIsBored over Xmas, but I was Meanoldmummy before that....I've been around a good few months now but haven't poked my head above the virtual parapet much yet!

HeyBaby · 11/01/2006 20:14

Oh my goodness - I feel like I've resurrected some evil spawn thread here!!! It's like the mumsnet version of The Omen Part III or something!

Very interesting debate though ....

nanneh · 11/01/2006 20:15

what a bunch of...&**$%%£""...no wonder I keep thinking London is shite !!

Meanoldmummy · 11/01/2006 20:16

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stinkweasel · 11/01/2006 20:19

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nanneh · 11/01/2006 20:19

HeyBaby - personally I am glad you restarted it. I had read this thread ages ago and kept silent...but decided I would just be a silent coward if I didn't agree with the gist of what the the original poster was trying to say. Many, many, many people I have met (yes, usually foreigners new to London) totally agree with the original post.

Meanoldmummy · 11/01/2006 20:20

Was there something specific you wanted to say Nanneh? Or just a generalised expletive?

nanneh · 11/01/2006 20:21

stink - I meant what a bunch of "lovely" mothers you are all...my typing went a bit bonkers...I would dearly love to know and hug you all !!

HeyBaby · 11/01/2006 20:21

Is this the part where the audience starts shouting "JER-RY! JER-RY! JER-RY!" ....???

(a la The Jerry Springer show for those who don't get it ...)

stinkweasel · 11/01/2006 20:22

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stinkweasel · 11/01/2006 20:24

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nanneh · 11/01/2006 20:25

stink - very intelligent analysis - hence my rudeness and sarcasm on this thread !!

Meanoldmummy · 11/01/2006 20:26

Bonkers Nanneh? Surely not!

Meanoldmummy · 11/01/2006 20:27

Have you been rude? I hadn't noticed!!

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