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Anyone with Algerian husband?

294 replies

doublemuvver · 05/03/2011 12:17

Curious to know of others married to Algerians and what, if any, cultural differences/issues you have experienced. We've been married 6 years and have 2 kids (twins). Life is a bit of a rollercoaster sometimes.

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whataboutbob · 11/01/2016 19:42

No my husband is English, I grew up in Algeria from '72 to '82. And I go to France a lot and keep up to date with society and politics there .
I just hope that the ghettoization of Algerians and the hostility of some of the children of Algerian immigrants (not all) towards France, which regularly spills into acts of violence is not repeated here.

BeeMyBaby · 11/01/2016 19:59

Whataboutbob Algeria has been trying to improve over the last few years as they are trying to stop outsourcing - if you are unemployed you can apply for a loan from the government to start a business, BIL got a van worth £12k about 5 years ago to make his own transportation business (paperwork took about a year), other BIL got a £100k loan for a manufacturing business although that has taken 5 years to complete the paperwork, they have no government connections. If you had land then they will give you a grant to start building a house, if you don't have land they will sell you a flat for a highly subsidised price, it just takes time to get. I think things have drastically changed since the 80s, but perhaps it's the people who grew up in those times who then emigrated who have this dislike towards the west rather than those who currently live there.

stairway · 11/01/2016 20:31

Whataboutbob I can't see that happening here. People react how they are treated.
We don't have the ghettos. If you get a council house in London you've effectively won the lottery!
Did you miss the civil war in Algeria? I feel my dh is still traumatised by it.

whataboutbob · 11/01/2016 20:31

Thanks BMB that's interesting to hear. I think it's vital that there are such initiatives especially as it is such a young population. There was no entrepreneurial spirit that we could detect when i was growing up there, it was not encouraged as it was a socialist country and those who had initiative tended to get crushed if they didn't have connections. More recently an old family friend tried to market his wonderful products (olive oil, honey etc) and got sabotaged at every turn.Let's hope that mindset is really changing.

whataboutbob · 11/01/2016 20:34

Stairway we got out before it really kicked off. There was one scary incident at the University my parents were teaching in. The "barbus" broke in one day and started trashing the place, attacking women who weren't wearing headscarves, attacking lecturers whose lessons they disapproved off etc. Needless to say that was NOT on that evening's news (strictly controlled by the government).

stairway · 11/01/2016 20:51

Hmm sadly I think the news is still strictly controlled by the government.

BeeMyBaby · 12/01/2016 07:29

I think perhaps Algerians have a different attitude towards the news, I rarely see any of DHs family watching/discussing the news unless it's seen on Facebook (although they have the option of watching many satellite news channels including bbc world), but the thought seems to be if you spend all your time watching the news then you will miss the time with your family etc iyswim. When DH does tell me any news about Algeria it tends to be positive, for example this week it was that the government had agreed to make tamezight an official language of Algeria. I guess as he is from Kabyle life is quite different compared to someone from sat oran.

stairway · 12/01/2016 10:26

Beemybaby yes I think the kabyles have a completely different culture.
Regarding the cologne attacks I was thinking.. Yes it's bad but think how many white men go abroad and molest children..

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BeeMyBaby · 30/01/2016 11:20

One I think from the name of the thread everyone on it has already made their bed and married an Algerian so it's a bit late from your warning of doom Hmm.

DH was complaining yesterday of the coverage of zinedane zidane and being only referred to as French in the news coverage, although when we were watching an interview of him he was saying his parents were from tizi ouzo and he spoke Kabylie at home- but when it's a terrorist it's almost glossed over that they are officially European but it's highlighted that they are of Algerian descent.

stairway · 01/02/2016 12:36

Too late for me too. Mine is still here after 10 years so I think he's for keeps Wink

I do wonder if I should have run for the hills 10 years ago mind.
I second the advice to learn the language.
I can now often understand what he is saying to his family on the phone. Usually sending money we don't have.

BeeMyBaby · 02/02/2016 16:32

Unfortunately it's not easy to
Learn Berber unless someone Berber teaches you as it doesn't seem to be written anywhere really- however if DH was doing something unscrupulousness with bread, or a door, I would totally know about it!

We have just had a DS and we are bringing up our children to be very proud of being Algerian- I would hate to think that any future wife would be so prejudice to dismiss him purely due to his nationality.

Peacefulife1 · 03/02/2016 22:48

I think both need to face up! I think that the main problem comes from France where there is still a high level racism towards Algerians and many French people still think they are more clued up! therefore, the Algerians keep reminding themselves of their past and wait for a proper recognition and respect from France. However, we should also notice that the new generation of Algerians do not feel any real link with Algeria's past with France, instead they look for a better future.

Peacefulife1 · 03/02/2016 23:02

Honestly, I do not want to sound narrow minded and disrespectful but I was not actually shocked when Algerians committed the crime in Cologne and I actually expected them to be the criminals. Firstly, the majority of men in Algeria haven't got the same level of respect as native Europeans towards women walking on their own or with friends on the street, and especially at night. Women in Algeria were and are still constantly being harassed, stalked and sweared at, even when they wear the JILBEB. It is only recently that women are eventually being protected by the law from harrassment. Men can even go to jail for up to 6 months. I don't like austerity but it is time for Algerian women to claim the streets back!

whataboutbob · 26/03/2016 18:25

Having grown up in Algeria i second what Peaceful said. The sexual harrassment was relentless, it started when I was 8 and didn't stop till the day I left at 15. Huge levels of sexual frustration plus misogyny= streets are often unsafe for women.

momof2uk · 02/04/2016 07:21

Not sure.if anyone is still active on here? I'm in the UK and have an Algerian partner. We have two children together, ds age 4 and dd age 9wks

BeeMyBaby · 02/04/2016 16:31

Hi mumof2, yup still active, currently holidaying in Algeria... Where about is your DH from?

momof2uk · 02/04/2016 16:50

He's from Kouba 😊

BeeMyBaby · 02/04/2016 17:42

I have googled it, lol, very convenient! Do you visit often? Is it quite a conservative area (ie do the women wear hijabs there)?

momof2uk · 02/04/2016 20:40

We've only been once as a family, we had planned to go this year but were surprised with the arrival of our baby girl and all the expenses that came along with her! We had to renew dh FLR in December so we just won't have the money to this year. But we have already set a date to go next year hopefully! Kouba is lovely, I walked around wearing normal dresses and cropped.leggings etc, and even used the metro and had no problem whatsoever. I saw many girls there walking around in strapless tops and dresses, completely the opposite of what I expected to be honest

BeeMyBaby · 02/04/2016 21:47

Do you plan to go for long? I have a 10 week old too and so we are using my mat leave time to spend as much time as possible during the DDs school holidays. How long do you have to wait till your DH gets ILR/ citizenship?

momof2uk · 02/04/2016 22:12

Most likely we will stay for two to three weeks ☺ Dh is on the 10 year route and has just applied for his first renewal of his leave to remain. He's probably looking at being able to apply for indefinite leave in about 7yrs, as long as the government doesn't move the goal posts yet again!

BeeMyBaby · 03/04/2016 16:41

10 years Shock!!!!!! So difficult now!!! Although good I suppose as I know of one man who left his wife within 6 months after getting his citizenship under the 3 years ILR.

SeriousSam · 06/04/2016 12:50

married to one.
currently looking for shelter, or any safe place for my mental health
and the baby im carrying in me.

BeeMyBaby · 10/04/2016 23:05

Serious did he have a visa before you met him or did you sponsor him? Does his visa still depend on you if he is on one?

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