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We earn nearly 5K a month but we’re always skint

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MoonlitMabel · 16/10/2026 11:04

Me and my partner have been together 6 years and we have 6 kids between us. We both work and on paper we should be doing ok but honestly we seem to have no money left most months and I dont understand where its all going.

I earn about £1450 a month after tax and he usually brings home around £3200 but it depends on overtime. We get child benefit as well and I get a bit of maintenance for my older two but its not a massive amount. So I know we arent on a low income exactly, which is why its frustrating that we are always counting down to payday.

I have DS11 and DD8 from my previous relationship, he has two girls aged 13 and 10 from his previous relationship and we have a DS who is 2 and a DD who is 8 months. The older two live with me full time. His girls have only recently come to live with us full time because their mum moved away and they wanted to stay with their dad. Their mum isnt paying maintenance at the moment. I dont blame the girls for any of this and they are lovely, its just obviously a lot more expensive having two extra children here all the time.

We rent a 3 bed house and its quite full now but moving isnt an option at the moment. Rent is £850, council tax is about £180, then all the usual bills, phones, petrol, car insurance etc. He pays the rent and most of the bigger bills from his account and I tend to pay for the food shop, things the kids need and bits for the house. It sort of ended up that way rather than us sitting down and deciding it was fair.

The thing is he keeps saying I need to cut down on the food shop. Last night I spent £235 and he was genuinely shocked when he saw it, asking how on earth I had spent that much and saying I need to look at my spending. I know £235 sounds a lot but its for 8 people and I got nappies, washing stuff, toilet roll, packed lunch things, milk, fruit, meat etc. I wasnt buying loads of treats or anything particularly expensive. We were running low on quite a few things so it wasnt even just food.

I did get annoyed because he has been ordering more Airfix stuff recently. He builds the models and paints them and its his hobby, which I do understand, everyone needs something they enjoy. But he will order a kit for £35 then paints another time and tools and bits for another £20 or £30 and he doesnt seem to see it as much because its not all in one go. He says its his hobby and he doesnt go out drinking or spend money on nights out. Fair enough but I dont have money to just buy things for myself whenever I want. If I need clothes or something I usually leave it until the next month.

He says thats different because the food shop is something I can control and I need to plan better. He reckons I buy too much and we dont need half the things I get. I said if he wants to do the food shop and feed all of us for less then he can have a go because its easy to criticise when you arent the one trying to make meals out of whats left in the fridge. That probably didnt help the conversation.

He then said since his girls moved in everything costs more and I seem to have a problem with it. I honestly dont. They are his children and of course they should be able to live with their dad if thats what they want. But we didnt really sit down and work out how much more it would cost or change how we pay for things. We just carried on as before and now we are struggling even more.

He has debt repayments as well, credit cards and a loan from before, which come to around £500 a month. He says those are fixed payments and have to be paid so theres not much he can do about them. I agree they need paying but it means a lot of his wages are already spoken for before we have even bought food or put petrol in the car. His overtime isnt guaranteed either so some months he gets less than £3200.

I dont know if we are just spending too much or if this is what it costs to run a house with this many kids now. We dont have expensive holidays or go out much. The kids have clubs and school things to pay for, they grow out of clothes and shoes, the little ones need nappies and all that. Then theres always something else, a birthday or a school trip or something needs replacing.

We dont have a joint account and neither of us has a proper idea of what the other has left after bills. He thinks he pays most of the money out because the rent and bills come out of his account, and I feel like Im constantly spending mine on everyone and everything and never have anything left. We have never actually added everything up together which I know sounds stupid.

I dont want this to turn into me saying he shouldnt buy his hobby stuff or that his girls cost too much, because thats not what I mean. I just dont see how we can both be working and bringing that much in and still be skint all the time. Is £235 actually ridiculous for a weekly shop for this many people or do I need to look properly at what Im spending? And how do other people split everything when there are children from previous relationships as well?

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Calliopespa · 16/10/2026 13:48

AuntieDen · 16/10/2026 13:41

more than asking the mum to pay for the kids, surely previously DP was paying some maintenance and is now not having to, so should have at least that amount to contribute to the household costs?

Its definitely a honest discussion with DP time, he's clearly in cloud cuckoo land - and yes six kids cost a lot but the most recent two were a joint decision, are non returnable, and need to be paid for, so everyone needs to be onboard with working it out.

For people who seem to think rent cannot be that cheap, or that OP should have refused to have his kids move in, yes there are clearly places where that's the market rent (and even places where rent is lower than the local average) and if the OP had refused to let them move in and posted about it she would have been handed her arse on a plate. Mumsnet is so fickle sometimes.

Yes, I'd have had words if she hadn't let them move in. She has done the right thing there.

OP apart from your DH's hobbies, which I am not sure are regular costs(?), the problem is there are not many places to cut back except food.

He can't not pay his debt.

The most helpful thing I can offer is you post the shopping expenses and we see what we think about where cuts could be made.

I see a pp suggested toilet training to take out half the nappy costs, and you could gently begin that, but that takes time and not all children are ready at 2. It isn't fair for the 2 year to have to be the one to rise to the occasion and be the one to alleviate the financial stress.

76evie · 16/10/2026 13:49

The food shop isn’t unreasonable at all. Why isn’t their mum paying maintenance? Do you get child benefit for them? I’d make sure you are getting both of them and if not, start the ball rolling to get them.

I think you both need to sit down and go through the finances and work out a budget and then sit down once a month and go through it together.

TheSandgroper · 16/10/2026 13:50

Calliopespa · 16/10/2026 13:48

Yes, I'd have had words if she hadn't let them move in. She has done the right thing there.

OP apart from your DH's hobbies, which I am not sure are regular costs(?), the problem is there are not many places to cut back except food.

He can't not pay his debt.

The most helpful thing I can offer is you post the shopping expenses and we see what we think about where cuts could be made.

I see a pp suggested toilet training to take out half the nappy costs, and you could gently begin that, but that takes time and not all children are ready at 2. It isn't fair for the 2 year to have to be the one to rise to the occasion and be the one to alleviate the financial stress.

Yeah, the debt has to be paid but buying more and more tat (which Airfix is) on credit cards while only paying the minimum isn’t contributing to the relationship, is it?

Sunbringer · 16/10/2026 13:51

Well you’ve got 6 kids and you earn a below average wage so of course you’re skint

SaveMeFromMyBoobs · 16/10/2026 13:53

Your partner is a knobhead.

His debt is double the weekly food budget for 8 people (which is a very reasonable amount for that number of people). His debt is two thirds of the cost of your rent that houses 8 people. It's 16% of his income.

His debt is the problem and needs addressing urgently. I bet hes spending a lot more on himself than you realise.

ClairDeLaLune · 16/10/2026 13:53

MoonlitMabel · 16/10/2026 13:47

I shop at Aldi mostly, sometimes Asda if I need bits Aldi dont have. I have tried to plan meals because he keeps saying I need to so this is what ive got for the week. The £235 included household bits and nappies as well not just food.

I got 2 big packs of nappies (2 different sizes, 2yo is potty trained but needs nappies overnight still), wipes, nappy bags, washing powder, fabric conditioner, toilet roll, kitchen roll, washing up liquid, dishwasher tablets, shampoo, shower gel, toothpaste and handwash. Also bin bags and some cleaning stuff as we were running out.

Food wise milk, bread, wraps, cereal, porridge oats, butter, cheese, yoghurt, eggs, bananas, apples, grapes, satsumas, potatoes, carrots, broccoli, cucumber, peppers, onions, mushrooms, lettuce, tomatoes, frozen peas, frozen sweetcorn, tins of beans, chopped tomatoes, pasta, rice, noodles, baked beans, spaghetti hoops, tuna, soup, stock cubes and passata. Got chicken thighs, chicken breasts, mince, sausages, bacon, fish fingers, frozen fish, ham and a big pack of beef burgers. Also crisps, biscuits, crackers, squash and a couple of little treats for the kids but it wasn’t all snacks/junk.

Meal plan is:
Tonight - sausage mash and veg
Sat - chicken wraps with salad and wedges
Sun - mince and potatoes with veg
Mon - pasta bolognese
Tues - jacket potatoes with beans/cheese and tuna
Wed - chicken and rice
Thurs - fish fingers, chips and peas

Lunches are sandwiches or wraps, fruit and yoghurt, the older ones have school dinners some days too. Breakfast is cereal or toast mostly. Obviously the little ones dont eat all the same things and DS2 is fussy with some stuff so I do have to have things he will eat.

I dont think its an extravagant shop but maybe im wrong. The nappies were a big part of it but we do need them and I thought it made sense to get them while we were there rather than having to go back.

I am back at work yes, nursery for the little ones is part of the costs and it does come out of my money. I dont know the exact figure off the top of my head. He was paying maintenance for his girls before they moved in but thats stopped now obviously. He gets child benefit for them.

We do buy second hand clothes and things, im not buying everything new for 6 kids. I know we need to sit down and go through the bills properly, I just wanted to know if the shop was actually unreasonable because he made me feel like id spent a fortune on things we dont need.

Well done for maintaining a healthy diet for everyone despite being skint OP. That sounds like a good menu to me.

One area where you could save is nappies. You could consider washable cloth nappies maybe? Also - I never bother with fabric conditioner. Small wins though really.

Calliopespa · 16/10/2026 13:53

TheSandgroper · 16/10/2026 13:50

Yeah, the debt has to be paid but buying more and more tat (which Airfix is) on credit cards while only paying the minimum isn’t contributing to the relationship, is it?

No - as I said above.

He needs to grow up.

Nottodaybob · 16/10/2026 13:54

£235 is not an excessive amount for what you bought and how many are in the family.

We spend £700 a month, we're only a family of 4, total, and don't have nappies to factor in (but do have cats).

How much do you spend on childcare?

Could you get cheaper phone contracts?

You really are just in a case of life costs a lot at the moment and you don't have sufficient income. What are your career prospects like?

DrMorbius · 16/10/2026 13:54

Neither of you seem to be financially switched on. Unfortunately that puts you at a massive disadvantage. You are always going to struggle.
Instead of wasting time posting to randoms on here, use the time to get financially educated. It's probably the single biggest investment you could make.

LambriniBobInIsleworthISeesYa · 16/10/2026 13:54

I won’t comment on everything else because I don’t have any advice really, but I spent £220 in Tesco for just four of us last night, so I think that you’re doing really well to spend a similar amount and have meals for eight of you and you’ve bought washing powder and nappies etc!

Meand2Ls · 16/10/2026 13:55

We bring in much more than that and only have 2 children and we don’t have much left at the end of the month (although nursery fees are a huge part of that for us). I honestly like £5K a month for a family for 8 isn’t a lot…
I also think £235 for a family of 8 food shop is very modest. We are about £150 a month for 4 of us

Calliopespa · 16/10/2026 13:55

MoonlitMabel · 16/10/2026 13:47

I shop at Aldi mostly, sometimes Asda if I need bits Aldi dont have. I have tried to plan meals because he keeps saying I need to so this is what ive got for the week. The £235 included household bits and nappies as well not just food.

I got 2 big packs of nappies (2 different sizes, 2yo is potty trained but needs nappies overnight still), wipes, nappy bags, washing powder, fabric conditioner, toilet roll, kitchen roll, washing up liquid, dishwasher tablets, shampoo, shower gel, toothpaste and handwash. Also bin bags and some cleaning stuff as we were running out.

Food wise milk, bread, wraps, cereal, porridge oats, butter, cheese, yoghurt, eggs, bananas, apples, grapes, satsumas, potatoes, carrots, broccoli, cucumber, peppers, onions, mushrooms, lettuce, tomatoes, frozen peas, frozen sweetcorn, tins of beans, chopped tomatoes, pasta, rice, noodles, baked beans, spaghetti hoops, tuna, soup, stock cubes and passata. Got chicken thighs, chicken breasts, mince, sausages, bacon, fish fingers, frozen fish, ham and a big pack of beef burgers. Also crisps, biscuits, crackers, squash and a couple of little treats for the kids but it wasn’t all snacks/junk.

Meal plan is:
Tonight - sausage mash and veg
Sat - chicken wraps with salad and wedges
Sun - mince and potatoes with veg
Mon - pasta bolognese
Tues - jacket potatoes with beans/cheese and tuna
Wed - chicken and rice
Thurs - fish fingers, chips and peas

Lunches are sandwiches or wraps, fruit and yoghurt, the older ones have school dinners some days too. Breakfast is cereal or toast mostly. Obviously the little ones dont eat all the same things and DS2 is fussy with some stuff so I do have to have things he will eat.

I dont think its an extravagant shop but maybe im wrong. The nappies were a big part of it but we do need them and I thought it made sense to get them while we were there rather than having to go back.

I am back at work yes, nursery for the little ones is part of the costs and it does come out of my money. I dont know the exact figure off the top of my head. He was paying maintenance for his girls before they moved in but thats stopped now obviously. He gets child benefit for them.

We do buy second hand clothes and things, im not buying everything new for 6 kids. I know we need to sit down and go through the bills properly, I just wanted to know if the shop was actually unreasonable because he made me feel like id spent a fortune on things we dont need.

Sorry, I missed this when I was asking you to post the list. I think we cross-posted.

Will look now ...

CuteOrangeElephant · 16/10/2026 13:55

OP I don't think your food shop by itself is unreasonable, but I think you do lack insight on the state of your overall finances. In that context you might be spending too much.

I've recently been through the budgetting process and it took me almost a whole day - and the outcome isn't necessarily what I wanted from it either (it was more precarious than I thought, and we made some poor financial decisions). But it feels good having the insight so I can cut my cloth accordingly.

LongDarkTeatime · 16/10/2026 13:56

He’s avoiding facing his own financial responsibility by focusing on you.
I’d suggest engaging with him enthusiastically and start a spreadsheet of where money goes. Split it into separate categories: essentials then nice to haves for family, kids, DH and you. Each in a separate column. He needs to see in black and white how much nice-to-have hobbies and interest payments are impacting.

Saz12 · 16/10/2026 13:57

You have £5k pcm, rent & bills & food all sound ok, even his hobby doesnt sound super expensive.

Kids hobbies? Phone contracts? Clothes etc? Nursery fees? Transport costs? Car? You dont know where your money is going. so you cant see what you can cut back on.

SabrinaBricklayer · 16/10/2026 13:57

You need to write everything down. All incomings and every single outgoing. Obviously six children and debts is going to eat into that income but seeing it all in black and white will make budgeting a bit easier.

thebrowncatisback · 16/10/2026 13:58

Six kids is the answer to this conundrum

honestly, i feel for you. That isn’t a large income
for such a large family

evry thing is so expensive these days

Givemeausernamepls · 16/10/2026 13:59

Aside from the fact you have 6 children, the biggest issue is your approach to finances. It sounds like your DP buys what he fancies, adding to his cc debt (he should cut these up btw) gets to have money for hobbies but you can't buy nappies in your weekly shop! In your shoes and as you have kids together, id suggest a joint account and then if there is any money left over you can both have separate spends. It sounds like all your money goes into the family... How are household jobs split? Because I bet you do more of them too...

NattyKnitter116 · 16/10/2026 14:01

Reading your shopping list and meal list and taking everything in to account, it looks like you’re doing a sterling job ! You are not the problem here and as you say, two extra kids are not at fault. The person who posted about his debt and its percentage of things like your food bill and your rent really hit the nail on the head. And you pay your own childcare costs!
I do hope he is a generally decent husband otherwise and pulls his weight with the kids, housework, cooking and life admin.

Calliopespa · 16/10/2026 14:02

I think your grocery list was, overall, commendable OP.

Lots of good vegetables and plenty of protein.

I feel really bad picking, as it isn't an extravagant shop, but, given you need to find a place to do your bit (and he is going to HAVE to do the same), I would personally cut out fabric softener and the crisps and biscuits. We don't get crisps and biscuits on a weekly shop, and that's a lifestyle choice rather than a financial one, so I think it could happily go in your circumstances of needing to find things to chop. Yes, children like them, but it isn't giving them nutrition and you can save them for every so often - movie night with crisps is much looked forward to in our house in a way don't think it would be if I got them on a weekly shop. If they are hungry, you have lots of fruit and a slice of bread and honey fills.

Vanillaicelatte · 16/10/2026 14:03

You have six kids 😂

your rent is pretty cheap compared to where I live as a 3 bed would easily be around 1600 unless you get Social housing

but yeah 6 kids will skint you out

BandyUrnham · 16/10/2026 14:03

fabric conditioner, kitchen roll, shower gel, handwash.
Ditch the fabric conditioner.
Use old rags (from knackered t-shirts) or newspaper instead of kitchen paper.
Bar soap instead of handwash and shower gel.

cleaning stuff use washin-upliquid in warm water instead, and cut to a minimum of multi-purpose products.

Fruit: buy the cheaper ones - no berries in winter etc.
Crisps, biscuits, oat bars etc aren't food.
Children's yoghurts and lunchbox items are expensive.

It's not the food or household items, it's the debt and credit card interest.

Cranarc · 16/10/2026 14:05

Our supermarket shop works out at around £80 per week for two adults. I don't think your grocery shopping is the problem.

PumpkinSeasonIsHere · 16/10/2026 14:05

BandyUrnham · 16/10/2026 14:03

fabric conditioner, kitchen roll, shower gel, handwash.
Ditch the fabric conditioner.
Use old rags (from knackered t-shirts) or newspaper instead of kitchen paper.
Bar soap instead of handwash and shower gel.

cleaning stuff use washin-upliquid in warm water instead, and cut to a minimum of multi-purpose products.

Fruit: buy the cheaper ones - no berries in winter etc.
Crisps, biscuits, oat bars etc aren't food.
Children's yoghurts and lunchbox items are expensive.

It's not the food or household items, it's the debt and credit card interest.

Flapjacks are a fairly easy-to-make treat and also inexpensive, might be a good idea.

CherryKerry · 16/10/2026 14:05

(When does he get time to do his Airfix with all the overtime and 6 kids in the house?)

I would definitely drag him to the supermarket for the weekly shop so he can experience how expensive it is at the moment for grocery shopping. Do it together.

Any scope for you to work fulltime or do some overtime as partner sounds like he'll struggle to increase his income.

Also, apply to CMS for kids who are now living with you permanently, presume you already get child benefit for them?

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