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BOTWATCH 93! The latest in a long running anti MLM thread. We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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Spongebobette · 12/08/2026 10:36

New thread, welcome one and all

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OhMyGiddyAunt · 23/08/2026 17:52

Anyone else think that Yawn was about to say that that it had to happen gradually (and not instantly as she wants) because Mr Yawn is busy at work?

I think she nearly let slip that he has a J.O.B.

Spongebobette · 23/08/2026 18:25

i think she was about to say due to cost but she can’t say that as she’s a debt free multi 6 figure earner

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YouOKHun · 23/08/2026 19:47

Yes, how to spin the lack of a roof without saying “not enough time to build it due to work” and “not enough money”. I bet Yawn isn’t as relaxed about the delay as she wants to imply, Mr Yawn’s probably had a testing weekend.

I’m not surprised he doesn’t want to pay anyone else to construct the roof. He must realise all of this is just throwing good money after bad. The Forever Living brief golden years are so far in the past and FLP now virtually out of the picture anyway, even Mr Yawn must have his breaking point. Maybe he’s already saying, ‘I think you need to get a job and do this on the side’.

He knows a bit about construction so I wonder how wise he thinks the gym in the shed is and how on board he is with this latest fad. It’s one thing having your partner wasting time online but it’s another when their time wasting involves bringing people into your home and the whole exercise has upfront costs. He must know that this latest BaB pipe dream isn’t got to cover the cost of 5L of Elsan Blue for the Squat Potty (which will probably never get used).

Crwysmam · 24/08/2026 00:32

The other problem is that there are plenty of big gyms around Yawnsville and some pretty upmarket “boutique “ ones catering for the sort of ladies who can afford £40 an hour. There is a very big David Lloyd’s locally and the usual Puregym. You can have a months membership for less than £40 in the bigger gyms.

Yawnshire is a particularly affluent and health conscious county. The latest trend is for resistance training and reform Pilates with lots of small gyms all over the county.

Yawn has some serious competition and her gym is not located in the most populated area.

Most personal trainers work out of the bigger gyms or the spas attached to a number of upmarket hotels. There is a fantastic gym/spa very close to her. I’m waiting for her to convert an old water but I to an ice bath just to complete the set up. Not sure Mr Yawn will be able to stretch to a jacuzzi. That would be a whole new layer of H&S including a legionella survey.

user1471446301 · 24/08/2026 08:26

Spongebobette · 23/08/2026 14:39

Poor old Mr Yawn is being described as as ‘tight’ as he won’t hire someone to build a canopy and the ‘toilet block’ (that metal shed needs to be assembled which is hours of work!)
AND HE’S GOT A KNACKERED BACK

Yawn can hardly contain her frustration at not being able to snap her fingers and get what she wants instantly and seems to have decided it all needs doing by Sept 1

Yawn looked raging in that reel, like she has been given a few financial home truths, no mention of beautiful, beautiful clients her voice almost breaking at times. As a multi successful business owner she could pay for her own roof and for it to be fitted. It looks like the Mr Yawn worm has turned, skint and with a bad back he's had enough. Perhaps when he has recovered he will grow a new spine. This Gym debacle really is the gift that keeps on giving. I can't wait to see the AI Beige Ladies in their Gym attire slipping and sliding on the algae ridden decking as the rain will just drive through the open sides. Traipsing across the turdy lawn to the tool shed!

SnoogyWoo · 24/08/2026 08:56

It really has turned to pure comedy gold. It’s a Little Britain sketch now 🤣

She is literally scraping the barrel now and no mention of techie in a while.

definitelynotabot · 24/08/2026 09:00

Nobody, absolutely nobody, is going to pay £40 an hour.
Or anything at all.

orangehandles · 24/08/2026 09:51

Spongebobette · 23/08/2026 17:08

If only there was a business expert who could advise them on keeping accurate accounts, so they know what money has been spent and what income they have

You rang? 😁😉

MrsDilligaf · 24/08/2026 12:11

Loads of friends have been to see her gym and they want to train there (I don't think so...)

This is fairly typical yawn behaviour - gets so excited about a project, throws money and herself at it and then gets bored.

user1471446301 · 24/08/2026 12:15

MrsDilligaf · 24/08/2026 12:11

Loads of friends have been to see her gym and they want to train there (I don't think so...)

This is fairly typical yawn behaviour - gets so excited about a project, throws money and herself at it and then gets bored.

Bet they wearing Beige ;)

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 24/08/2026 13:04

This is what Gemini reckons. It looks like a lot because it is a lot.

To legally and safely operate a 1-on-1 personal training business from a garden outbuilding in the UK, you must satisfy a specific combination of council regulations, business laws, and health and safety requirements. [1, 2]

  1. Legal and Regulatory Compliance
Planning Permission & "Change of Use": While building the structure itself often falls under Permitted Development, using it to run a commercial gym frequently triggers a "Material Change of Use". Because paying clients will regularly visit your residential property, you must contact your local council planning department. Operating without their clear approval can result in an enforcement notice. [3, 4] Mortgage or Lease Agreement: You must obtain written consent from your mortgage lender or freeholder to run a commercial business from home. Standard residential mortgages explicitly prohibit regular commercial activity on the property. [2, 4, 5] Business Rates: The Valuation Office Agency (VOA) may assess your garden gym separately from your domestic Council Tax. You may be liable for non-domestic business rates, though you can often claim Small Business Rate Relief if it is your only commercial space. [1, 6] Music Licensing: If you play copyrighted music during your sessions (even via Spotify or Apple Music), you are legally required to hold a PPL PRS TheMusicLicence for commercial premises. [1, 7] Data Protection (GDPR): Because you will collect and store sensitive client medical history and contact data, you must legally register with the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) and pay the data protection fee. [7]
  1. Insurance and Liability Protection
Specialist Insurance Policy: Standard home insurance will not cover client injuries or business equipment. You must secure a dedicated policy combining Public Liability Insurance (minimum £5 million coverage for injury claims) and Professional Indemnity Insurance (covering your training advice). [1, 6] The Injury Liability Reality: In the UK, no waiver can legally exclude or limit your liability for a client's death or personal injury caused by your professional negligence (such as unmaintained gear or unsafe instruction). [5] Client Intake Paperwork: Before any physical activity, every client must complete a Physical Activity Readiness Questionnaire (PAR-Q) and sign a clear terms of service agreement detailing your cancellation and safety policies. [8]
  1. Safety and Structural Requirements

HSE Risk Assessments: You must conduct and document a comprehensive risk assessment following the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) guidelines. This document must identify hazards (e.g., wet decking, heavy weights, electrical items) and outline how you actively mitigate them.
Electrical Safety Certification: Any electrical wiring run to the garden building must be installed, tested, and signed off by a certified electrician under Part P of the UK Building Regulations. You will need a formal Electrical Installation Certificate to validate your business insurance.
Non-Slip Decking Terrace: The outdoor terrace is a major slip hazard when combined with sweat, rain, or dynamic exercise. You must apply an aggregate anti-slip coating or heavy-duty rubber matting over the training zone on the deck to ensure client stability.
First Aid & Emergencies: You must keep a fully stocked, in-date HSE-compliant first aid kit clearly visible in the gym, maintain an up-to-date emergency action plan, and hold a valid First Aid at Work qualification. [7, 9, 10]

ticktock19 · 24/08/2026 13:35

I asked ChatGPT much the same yesterday and it also mentioned that she should get all her equipment tested by a suitable engineer confirming and certifying that it is all in good, safe working order and suitable for the uses she intends to use it for

user1471446301 · 24/08/2026 13:37

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 24/08/2026 13:04

This is what Gemini reckons. It looks like a lot because it is a lot.

To legally and safely operate a 1-on-1 personal training business from a garden outbuilding in the UK, you must satisfy a specific combination of council regulations, business laws, and health and safety requirements. [1, 2]

  1. Legal and Regulatory Compliance
Planning Permission & "Change of Use": While building the structure itself often falls under Permitted Development, using it to run a commercial gym frequently triggers a "Material Change of Use". Because paying clients will regularly visit your residential property, you must contact your local council planning department. Operating without their clear approval can result in an enforcement notice. [3, 4] Mortgage or Lease Agreement: You must obtain written consent from your mortgage lender or freeholder to run a commercial business from home. Standard residential mortgages explicitly prohibit regular commercial activity on the property. [2, 4, 5] Business Rates: The Valuation Office Agency (VOA) may assess your garden gym separately from your domestic Council Tax. You may be liable for non-domestic business rates, though you can often claim Small Business Rate Relief if it is your only commercial space. [1, 6] Music Licensing: If you play copyrighted music during your sessions (even via Spotify or Apple Music), you are legally required to hold a PPL PRS TheMusicLicence for commercial premises. [1, 7] Data Protection (GDPR): Because you will collect and store sensitive client medical history and contact data, you must legally register with the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) and pay the data protection fee. [7]
  1. Insurance and Liability Protection
Specialist Insurance Policy: Standard home insurance will not cover client injuries or business equipment. You must secure a dedicated policy combining Public Liability Insurance (minimum £5 million coverage for injury claims) and Professional Indemnity Insurance (covering your training advice). [1, 6] The Injury Liability Reality: In the UK, no waiver can legally exclude or limit your liability for a client's death or personal injury caused by your professional negligence (such as unmaintained gear or unsafe instruction). [5] Client Intake Paperwork: Before any physical activity, every client must complete a Physical Activity Readiness Questionnaire (PAR-Q) and sign a clear terms of service agreement detailing your cancellation and safety policies. [8]
  1. Safety and Structural Requirements

HSE Risk Assessments: You must conduct and document a comprehensive risk assessment following the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) guidelines. This document must identify hazards (e.g., wet decking, heavy weights, electrical items) and outline how you actively mitigate them.
Electrical Safety Certification: Any electrical wiring run to the garden building must be installed, tested, and signed off by a certified electrician under Part P of the UK Building Regulations. You will need a formal Electrical Installation Certificate to validate your business insurance.
Non-Slip Decking Terrace: The outdoor terrace is a major slip hazard when combined with sweat, rain, or dynamic exercise. You must apply an aggregate anti-slip coating or heavy-duty rubber matting over the training zone on the deck to ensure client stability.
First Aid & Emergencies: You must keep a fully stocked, in-date HSE-compliant first aid kit clearly visible in the gym, maintain an up-to-date emergency action plan, and hold a valid First Aid at Work qualification. [7, 9, 10]

It's a great list thank you and I expect there are way more things to consider as well, she really has no clue.

user1471446301 · 24/08/2026 13:42

I wonder why 2Jags is hobnobbing with one of the top 'leaders' of Utility Whorehouse? What's her business with this repulsive baby buying bot?

hourglass2 · 24/08/2026 15:05

MrsDilligaf · 24/08/2026 12:11

Loads of friends have been to see her gym and they want to train there (I don't think so...)

This is fairly typical yawn behaviour - gets so excited about a project, throws money and herself at it and then gets bored.

Yep, she'll throw anything at the wall to see if it sticks, so far we've had:
The Unlucky Girl Academy...quietly dropped
The 333 method.....quietly dropped
BAB....will go the same way eventually
Now a PT instructor
all in the last 2 years

Can anyone think of any more fly by night business ventures?

YouOKHun · 24/08/2026 16:07

@hourglass2 there have been quite a few other mini launches and phases to try and keep up the dwindling attention on the “businesses” you mention. There was Money Manifesting March which went quiet in the first week of March 2025 and so many other tweaks and announcement that it’s hard to remember. Every new phase/launch/business has been a demonstration that Yawn is just scrabbling about with the key objective of trying to get one over her ex FLP friends.

Obviously anyone can see it’s all been bullshit but there is something about this shed based PT business that really reveals just how naive she is and just how far from reality she is. It really feels like the last gasps as Success Expires. Can she really believe that this is a credible idea? She could so easily have done what @dickiedavisthunderthighs has done and asked what is required to run a business from home but years of botting have left her with no ability to reflect and think “what don’t I know? What do I need to find out?”, because that, to her and many longterm bots, is dangerous negative thinking. I can’t help wondering whether it’s all window dressing and she knows she will have no customers but what’s important to her is to create the impression of success.

Spongebobette · 24/08/2026 16:47

Absolutely right. It’s all about having SOMETHING to be excited (or she says frightened to create a bit of drama) about

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user1471446301 · 24/08/2026 17:17

hourglass2 · 24/08/2026 15:05

Yep, she'll throw anything at the wall to see if it sticks, so far we've had:
The Unlucky Girl Academy...quietly dropped
The 333 method.....quietly dropped
BAB....will go the same way eventually
Now a PT instructor
all in the last 2 years

Can anyone think of any more fly by night business ventures?

Let's not forget her very short lived stint on tik tock with the planty plasters

HotAsSatansBalls · 24/08/2026 20:30

“Traipsing across the turdy lawn to the tool shed!” @user1471446301 😂😂

Yawn’s antics certainly provide a rich seam of comedy …

Spongebobette · 24/08/2026 20:39

She’s invested a lot of time and money and white paint into this new leg of her business doncha know

I suppose all the painters and decorators in her area must have been booked up

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user1471446301 · 24/08/2026 21:02

HotAsSatansBalls · 24/08/2026 20:30

“Traipsing across the turdy lawn to the tool shed!” @user1471446301 😂😂

Yawn’s antics certainly provide a rich seam of comedy …

If things carry on the way they are that rich seam is going to lead us to a goldmine over the next few weeks!

All I've got in my head now is that song (I don't know if you remember it) The Divine Comedy There's Something in the Wood Shed, but with Yawn it's something in the Tool Shed a festering pooey potty.

Intrepidobserver · 24/08/2026 21:19

Who the feck paints tarpaulin??

hourglass2 · 24/08/2026 21:29

YouOKHun · 24/08/2026 16:07

@hourglass2 there have been quite a few other mini launches and phases to try and keep up the dwindling attention on the “businesses” you mention. There was Money Manifesting March which went quiet in the first week of March 2025 and so many other tweaks and announcement that it’s hard to remember. Every new phase/launch/business has been a demonstration that Yawn is just scrabbling about with the key objective of trying to get one over her ex FLP friends.

Obviously anyone can see it’s all been bullshit but there is something about this shed based PT business that really reveals just how naive she is and just how far from reality she is. It really feels like the last gasps as Success Expires. Can she really believe that this is a credible idea? She could so easily have done what @dickiedavisthunderthighs has done and asked what is required to run a business from home but years of botting have left her with no ability to reflect and think “what don’t I know? What do I need to find out?”, because that, to her and many longterm bots, is dangerous negative thinking. I can’t help wondering whether it’s all window dressing and she knows she will have no customers but what’s important to her is to create the impression of success.

Yes agreed, the MLM mindset has done her no favours whatsoever, the adoration from the lowly bots has lulled her to think she this amazing business woman when in reality she's nothing of the sort, the legalities surrounding becoming a PT are immense and for good reason.

Crikeyalmighty · 24/08/2026 22:50

Honestly , a business that has safety as a very big requirement combined with ‘the general public’ AND using home premises is a total recipe for a bureaucratic health and safety nightmare and you need to be strong on detail - which she isn’t

hourglass2 · 25/08/2026 07:55

user1471446301 · 24/08/2026 17:17

Let's not forget her very short lived stint on tik tock with the planty plasters

Oh yes I'd forgotton about those, that was another flash in the pan