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BOTWATCH 93! The latest in a long running anti MLM thread. We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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Spongebobette · 12/08/2026 10:36

New thread, welcome one and all

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user1471446301 · 13/08/2026 18:06

Mrs Boring is brown-noising (; on Bloodsuckers anniversary post. I bet the Borings wish they'd taken a different path now they are on the road to ruin.

Happy anniversary! Just imagine if you’d have taken a different path or stayed on the one you were on. All those lives you’ve impacted would look very different today. Thank you for all you do for us all x

ticktock19 · 13/08/2026 18:23

Eurgh…Mrs Boring keeps cropping up on various horse people / pages that I follow, thankfully not touting aloe as an equine saviour but generally just being a very attention seeking brown nosing individual, she’s obviously missing the attention

user1471446301 · 13/08/2026 19:47

ticktock19 · 13/08/2026 18:23

Eurgh…Mrs Boring keeps cropping up on various horse people / pages that I follow, thankfully not touting aloe as an equine saviour but generally just being a very attention seeking brown nosing individual, she’s obviously missing the attention

Yuk, she is like a fungus. She also seems to have resurrected an old facebook profile. So her full name like Queen...... then her current surname and then followed by I presume her maiden name a ie a famous mint (too good to hurry mint). This other FB is not to be confused with the FL account where she has mint and it's in brackets.

This resurrected page is all about dog adoption....but it's not they are all puppies and you can see the dogs with I presume mum and dad dog. I'm sure you can't sell animals on Facebook so she's used the term 'adoption' . So someone's either hacked her account or her latest grift is puppy farming. She also runs a page kittens for adoption with the description "Community mainly for breeding healthy, adorable and affordable kittens" so again kitten farming. I honestly don't know how low Bot's can go and it just goes to show how desperate they must be for cash.

YouOKHun · 14/08/2026 00:48

I can’t see the Boring FB you mention @user1471446301 only the one with brackets around her unmarried name. I notice both companies are showing as accounts overdue at CH. I also notice that Boring Mansion has been taken off the agents’ websites so perhaps they have sold it for that offer that was on the table of around £730,000 (I think). That may account for Mrs Boring’s more visible presence on social media - perhaps she thinks their troubles are over?

This doesn’t bode well for keeping a horse at full livery as she did when they were still able to maintain the illusion of being wealthy to their followers. So many posts were about the AGA and having “room for a pony”. Now they have moved back to a Buckinghamshire new town to live in reduced circumstances she is probably desperate to keep up the illusion with her equestrian friends.

The Borings were so happy to lie to people and tread all over them so I have no sympathy for them. I’m her case that is what happens when you marry your upline’s upline’s upline, you find out their success is a precarious house of cards too, even when they are a Top Bot. However I get the feeling Mrs Boring doesn’t ask too many questions, as long as Mr Boring tells her it’s nothing, just a little light hiccup, she will be happy and not ask further questions.

user1471446301 · 14/08/2026 07:57

YouOKHun · 14/08/2026 00:48

I can’t see the Boring FB you mention @user1471446301 only the one with brackets around her unmarried name. I notice both companies are showing as accounts overdue at CH. I also notice that Boring Mansion has been taken off the agents’ websites so perhaps they have sold it for that offer that was on the table of around £730,000 (I think). That may account for Mrs Boring’s more visible presence on social media - perhaps she thinks their troubles are over?

This doesn’t bode well for keeping a horse at full livery as she did when they were still able to maintain the illusion of being wealthy to their followers. So many posts were about the AGA and having “room for a pony”. Now they have moved back to a Buckinghamshire new town to live in reduced circumstances she is probably desperate to keep up the illusion with her equestrian friends.

The Borings were so happy to lie to people and tread all over them so I have no sympathy for them. I’m her case that is what happens when you marry your upline’s upline’s upline, you find out their success is a precarious house of cards too, even when they are a Top Bot. However I get the feeling Mrs Boring doesn’t ask too many questions, as long as Mr Boring tells her it’s nothing, just a little light hiccup, she will be happy and not ask further questions.

I have sent PM re pet adoption service

user1471446301 · 14/08/2026 08:35

The advert banner at the top of the page for me today is Yazoo!! reminded me straight away of Lifetree World!

Spongebobette · 14/08/2026 10:52

I hate Bloodsucker with the intensity of a thousand suns. That carefully constructed kindly everywoman persona, trite homilies and encouraging posts conceal the reality which is a decades-long liar and shameless exploiter. Every penny she’s made has come from her downlines, many of whom could ill afford to buy into her lies.

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user1471446301 · 14/08/2026 13:35

Spongebobette · 14/08/2026 10:52

I hate Bloodsucker with the intensity of a thousand suns. That carefully constructed kindly everywoman persona, trite homilies and encouraging posts conceal the reality which is a decades-long liar and shameless exploiter. Every penny she’s made has come from her downlines, many of whom could ill afford to buy into her lies.

You and me both, look what she posted in a Senegalese page on FB and I wonder how many more African pages she's grifted on. Exciting projects are not flogging gloop to those who can't
afford it and giving them false hope. Her name is so fitting she is utterly heartless.

My name is BLOODSUCKER, then more waffle and then
Currently, I’m looking for dedicated individuals who are ready to take on new challenges and work together on exciting projects. If you’re curious about how we can work together in the UK and Senegal, feel free to reach out—I’d be happy to chat
Thank you for taking the time to read my message as i expand my business into Senegal

hourglass2 · 14/08/2026 13:39

Norma27 · 12/08/2026 19:45

I’m going to sound awful but the woman who signed yawn off as a PT does not look healthy and who would never sign her up as a PT?

Christ, I've just had a look! I feel awful too but no way does that woman exercise for a living, why would Yawn share that video? Sorry but how embarrassing is it that someone who claims to train people to become a PT who's clearly overweight doesn't take their own advice on the subject, Yawn knows this surely?

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 14/08/2026 18:41

Bloodsucker is a mercenary bitch from hell.

I can't find Boring's alt FB profile either, how odd!

Spongebobette · 14/08/2026 18:57

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 14/08/2026 18:41

Bloodsucker is a mercenary bitch from hell.

I can't find Boring's alt FB profile either, how odd!

She saw the way the wind was blowing in the UK and has moved into new markets in Africa.

Soulless ghoul

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user1471446301 · 14/08/2026 20:50

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 14/08/2026 18:41

Bloodsucker is a mercenary bitch from hell.

I can't find Boring's alt FB profile either, how odd!

After consulting with another esteemed botwatcher I have come to the conclusion that these are hacked accounts. I've sent you a PM with the FB Link for your perusal. The Borings may be many things but in this instance I would like to retract that the are running a puppy and kitten farm they are just a pair of smug grifters.

benten54 · 14/08/2026 21:30

YouOKHun · 12/08/2026 19:51

when she says she has a nice little group on WhatsApp what she is describing is one of those social groups with a queen bee at the centre. It’s certainly not a coaching business.

i find it really difficult to believe that anyone who pays for BaB for the first month goes on to pay for a second month. I think when someone decides they don’t want to join or continue Yawn offers them a deal “just for you so don’t tell the others” so even if they are no longer paying she is keeping up the numbers and making it look like there are long term paying members - perception of popularity is everything. I wouldn’t be surprised if that is the case for everyone in her group.

The chance to look inside BaB back in June for any prospective sign ups was probably a spectacular own goal. Techie is probably doing a few websites but what is Yawn bringing to the table?

Taking one for the team I signed up for the free trial in what May? Had a look once, free content was rubbish, just Yawn talking for 2 minutes, a page on how to cleanse my crystals or links to external websites. Anyway every month they’ve emailed me to let me know that my free trial subscription has renewed. I assume I am counted as a ‘member’

Spongebobette · 14/08/2026 21:55

That’s hilarious

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Slw1984 · 14/08/2026 22:45

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 13/08/2026 17:28

Paging SLW - as an actual qualified real-life PT, what is your view on Yawn's correspondance-course PT diploma?!

Well, the timeline matches up with around 6 months of study and she could have well passed all the theory etc. I don’t know what the criteria is for the practical assessments … I mean surely they must be done In person ? I think the training provider was based in Scotland, which may link up with the fact she was in Scotland the other week I heard ? So maybe she was doing her practical assessment ? I dunno 🤷🏻‍♀️
all I can say is … lots of people pass their driving tests but are utterly sh*te drivers …
the fact that she probably thinks she’s spiting me in some way , or that builda bear wasn’t growing because of her lack of qualification is showing her total lack of self awareness that it’s nothing to do with that and more to do with her personality…
if she does get any in person clients I feel for them that she’ll probably be on her phone instagramming about her “gorgeous gorgeous clients” while they’re squashed under a barbell 🤣

Spongebobette · 15/08/2026 00:56

I note she’s not tagged her ex FL bot assessor into any of her self-congratulatory posts

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user1471446301 · 15/08/2026 13:43

A month or 2 back we discussed Richard Burton's ex Wife (famous actress) This FL Bot also had an article in the Scum and it was syndicated by the DSA and Faces of FL. Quite the FL Poster woman with the NHS Maternity Support angle, more time with her kids, dropped her hours etc. Well she's started up (again) running a Sli**ing World Group on a Thursday night in her home town so she must be feeling the pinch to give up an evening to earn money and leave her kids again. She hasn't announced this on her own FB but was 'outed' by another SW bot giving her a warm welcome. On her own page she just says "Here are some of the local groups and times available" and doesn't reference that the Liz is her on the Thursday.

I wonder how she squares this with the weightloss boxes C9's, fit15, DX4 and and all the weightloss potions. My limited understanding of SWorld is it's purely food based no supplements or potions just eating well and healthy food and you get support and advice from weekly meetings.

I don't think she will be able to push FL's products along side this during the weekly meetings and I'd be pissed if I joined and this happened.
In the company policy it states
"Refrain from Promoting Non-Forever Product or Service (a) Forever Business Owners refrain from promoting and/or selling any non-Forever product or service without prior written approval of the International Home Office".

SW and FL are totally at odds with each other and I'm sure FL would view this as a competitive business. Now, do I think FL will give a toss, no, especially if she is still shilling product and the references are discrete, but I thought it was interesting and another example of how things are always not what they seem in Botland.

Justdancevance · 15/08/2026 15:04

I see castle has brought the elder turret to the canaries. Younger one on holiday with her parents despite mum getting over surgery.

Me Castle is making videos, they are very funny (unintentionally) as he shares his business insights and tips.

The deal must be he has to let her film him. Filming your 12 year old child eating his dinner while asking him questions is so exploitative.

She’s obviously wants some shots of her sitting by a pool while claiming her miracle email list strategy is making her millions 😂

Mr Castle is home making videos which are very (unintentionally) funny, with his insights into business are toddler standard.

Castle’s late with her first ‘corporate marketing business’ filings. Quelle Surprise

YouOKHun · 15/08/2026 15:39

@user1471446301 Deciding to be an SW leader is not a sign that FLP is going as well as she claims is it?! Not surprising given her shaken timeline of success which was easy to dispute.

I don’t think FLP will give a damn either but I think SW’s reaction to one of their leaders having a conflict of interest should probably be more of a concern for Mrs Burton Bot. They’re seen as independent franchisees by SW and can run another business alongside SW but not selling SW members the C9 as a solution. The real sensitivity from SW’s point of view is the issue of potential data mishandling. Using names and addresses gained through SW to further FLP activities would be a big problem for SW. How could an FLP bot resist recruiting SW members held captive in some village hall on a Tuesday night?

FLP doesn’t make bots aware of privacy and data protection (as is endlessly clear to Botwatchers on SM) but SW is much more careful and leaders are required to manage members’ data in a compliant way, which should require them to be registered with ICO. I’d like to think Mrs Burton Bot is aware as an NHS employee where it is drummed into us at every turn (that was my experience), but the pull of FLP is probably stronger than any principles.

It would be interesting to be able to fly on the wall of that SW group to see how long it takes for FLP to creep in.

YouOKHun · 15/08/2026 15:39

*shaky timeline!

Spongebobette · 15/08/2026 16:04

Eldest turret looks uncomfortable being filmed eating. Poor lad.

I see Castle is looking at links between autism and vaccinations and thinks that correlation is the same as causation 🙄

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orangehandles · 15/08/2026 16:41

Spongebobette · 15/08/2026 16:04

Eldest turret looks uncomfortable being filmed eating. Poor lad.

I see Castle is looking at links between autism and vaccinations and thinks that correlation is the same as causation 🙄

Same sort of thinking as believing that the inability to drive a car has been caused by the use of public transport.

Justdancevance · 15/08/2026 16:50

Its hardly surprising she posts this vaccine stuff.

Castle can’t claim to do any research after being scammed multiple times after failing to do the most rudimentary checks

I hope her followers bear in mind her ability to do ‘research’ before following her advice.

Spongebobette · 15/08/2026 16:54

Parents of children with autism generally read as widely as possible about the condition and if she had done so she wouldn’t entertain the simplistic notion that a vaccine caused her son’s autism. It’s easy though, isn’t it.

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YouOKHun · 15/08/2026 17:28

Surely Bruv can Belief Code the Autism and cure it? They seem to be able to cure everything else and they’re working hard at BC to get children “in treatment” 😱

Castle would be an absolute gift to a manipulative conspiracy theorist - too stupid to recognise her own limitations, too lazy to question what she is told, too unoccupied to be distracted away from proven rubbish, to easily manipulated by someone telling her she is amazing while they feed her rubbish, and plenty of money to be diverted to a cause.