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BOTWATCH 93! The latest in a long running anti MLM thread. We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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Spongebobette · 12/08/2026 10:36

New thread, welcome one and all

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MrsDilligaf · 09/10/2026 07:35

notgettinganyyounger · 09/10/2026 06:27

Yawn appears to be now flogging more FL shite. Now its chewy tablets to take away the hunger pains. Obv its the 'message me for details' bollocks and only 25p per tablet and you can take 8 a day. SO I googled the description and of course its Forever Sensatiable.

IIRC she had mentioned that she needs to sell a certain amount to "draw her pension" from FLP.

In other words if she isn't active then she doesn't get any income - but I wonder qhat happened to her downline - for instance Headband was in her downline and now is in Ubers.

Speaking of Headband - Bloody hell is she a nasty one! Her rant on her stories yesterday speaks volumes about her. All about how she's been bullied, about how someone (That'll be you Fearless31 and we love you for it) has tried to ruin her business blah blah blah.

I was so tempted to comment that the truth is not bullying.

Crikeyalmighty · 09/10/2026 10:21

I actually do feel for you @Fearless31- good job you have the skin of a rhinoceros - these women have no shame , are bloody nasty and are nearly all rather thick

orangehandles · 09/10/2026 12:38

HotAsSatansBalls · 08/10/2026 18:51

Bruv didn’t imply that Forever Living enabled his sister to buy the so-called castle (which is actually a renovated folly featured on Grand Designs): he actually said that. I remember it well. Castle didn’t do anything to dispel the illusion.

Yawn must be desperate for attention (again). She’s told so many lies about that car crash. Yawn’s previous nickname was Browbot because of her well-defined eyebrows. She claimed she was being bullied about her eyebrows by people online (i.e Botwatchers) which, in her view, was out of order as she said they were torn off when she was involved in a serious car crash. A few weeks later she told one of her disciples on Facebook that the reason her natural eyebrows were so thin was because she’d over-plucked them. I’m surprised she hasn’t claimed the Air Ambulance was involved in a desperate search for eyebrows which had flown off on impact and were last seen over the River Severn in pursuit of a Soaring Eagle / Flappy Pigeon.

Oh crikey, I actually remember that episode of Grand Designs. I didn't watch all of it in the end because I thought it should remain as a sympathetically restored folly rather than be converted into a house.

Spongebobette · 09/10/2026 13:15

Headband’s story - my god she describes her ‘bully’ as ‘still at large’ as though she’s some sort of criminal who should have been locked up

and boasting about the ‘privilege’ of being asked to deliver training in Solihull on a Saturday!! You are working for free and paying all your own costs you idiotic woman

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Fearless31 · 09/10/2026 13:36

Headband really is desperate isn't she? A pathetic attempt to gain more attention. Making out that the bullying is still going on and, yes, I'm 'still at large'. Hilarious. I have all the evidence that supports everything I've said. She has nothing. If, I wanted to, I could report her to the police because I have enough evidence to potentially put her in prison for 10 years. The relevant authorities are involved now and please do look out for any further articles. After this latest little 'victim' stunt she has just pulled, I've contacted a few newspapers. For me, this was never about her, it was always about the company. She made it personal. But the truth really is a beautiful thing and it always comes out in the end.

Crwysmam · 09/10/2026 14:39

I did a deep dive into the archives of Yawns local newspaper yesterday. Found no reports of her accident, although if it happened at a weekend it may have gone unreported. However there was an article about her receiving a death threat.
I will continue the search to see if anything else turns up.

user1471446301 · 09/10/2026 14:54

Crwysmam · 09/10/2026 14:39

I did a deep dive into the archives of Yawns local newspaper yesterday. Found no reports of her accident, although if it happened at a weekend it may have gone unreported. However there was an article about her receiving a death threat.
I will continue the search to see if anything else turns up.

oh wow! Death Threat! but remember any entries will be in her maiden name as it was before she met and married Mr Yawn.

YouOKHun · 09/10/2026 15:15

The person Yawn appears with who is thanking her for the PTing is one of Yawn’s “Ambassadors” so that’s another one who isn’t paying £40.

I’ve searched for a record of an accident using Yawn’s previous name and never found anything in the past (though not a deep dive). If it was as dramatic as she has implied I’d have thought it might have been in the local press. I expect it didn’t happen quite like she said and the local journalists at the time decided to run their story about which villager had grown the most hilariously shaped carrot or some other more local newsworthy story.

HotAsSatansBalls · 09/10/2026 15:20

You’re not just “at large” @Fearless31 : you’re dangerous! You’re a danger to people involved in recruiting the unwary into MLM schemes, knowing full well that they’re only interested in recruiting and pushing over-priced aloe vera just to line their own grubby pockets. Headband has seriously underestimated you by thinking you’d go quietly after her mad rant, and can’t get over the fact you’re still “at large”! Shows she’s been in the cult bubble for too long …

YouOKHun · 09/10/2026 15:43

And the trouble is that many of Headband’s downline have seen that article and even if they say they haven’t seen it, refused to read it or don’t believe it I am sure they’ve quietly read it very carefully and some kernel of doubt about what Headband tells them must have been planted. They will have to push it to the back of their minds and that can be difficult. We don’t know if she has been able to prevent her downline from discussing it, which would be very dangerous for Headband.

Outside that band of followers she is on her own and I should think if the subject keeps raising its head publicly and reflects badly on Forever or on specific individuals like Scamolopoulis then Headband will be made to pay. I will certainly be doing all I can to keep your story @Fearless31 alive, especially as it develops and keeps showing Forever’s true colours.

Spongebobette · 09/10/2026 16:15

Keep going @Fearless31 !

Don’t be put off by the DARVO tactics ( Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender)

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notgettinganyyounger · 09/10/2026 16:30

Im sure a few will be whispering amongst themselves...very difficult to ignore when evidence is placed infront of them. No smoke without fire I say.

Fearless31 · 09/10/2026 16:46

I'm not going anywhere. Her tactics don't scare me. She's trying to make it a very public 'battle', trying perhaps to get a reaction from me, which isn't going to happen. I really don't need to lower myself to her level because, if I could be bothered to publicly challenge her, she wouldn't stand a chance.Headband has been selling her 'being bullied' story for 13 years now. At least, she can update it now.
All relevant authorities have the evidence now. Three local newspapers have been contacted. Let's go!

Spongebobette · 09/10/2026 17:38

Excellent

sharing like this should reach a few more potential victims

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Fearless31 · 09/10/2026 17:54

That's exactly why I'm doing it. I couldn't give a soaring eagle about headbands ridiculous little 'business'. I care about the potential victims way more.

Spongebobette · 09/10/2026 18:01

We love that on here ❤️

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user1471446301 · 09/10/2026 18:13

Fearless31 · 09/10/2026 17:54

That's exactly why I'm doing it. I couldn't give a soaring eagle about headbands ridiculous little 'business'. I care about the potential victims way more.

Thank you @Fearless31 . I've just watched Headbands deluded rant and nothing beats a rattled bot due their comeuppance! You have concise cold hard facts, full receipts and a conscience everything Headband doesn't. It's game time!

Fearless31 · 09/10/2026 18:46

I'm also only one more 'bullying' video or post away from taking the evidence of her personally committing fraud by misrepresentation to the police. I'm not sure how serving a few years in prison will fit in with the positive mum always at the school gates image. Did I mention that my brother is a partner in a top London law firm.........

Spongebobette · 09/10/2026 18:48

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notgettinganyyounger · 09/10/2026 18:57

This just gets better and better! You may just be the one who blows FL to shreds in the Uk. What a brave and admirable person you are. This has happened to so many people who have just wished it would all go away as they've been worn down, financially fucked over, lost friends, caused family rifts etc and just not had the strength to fight back. You are doing this for past and present victims and hopefully preventing future victims. Amazing person you are.

Butterflyfluff · 09/10/2026 19:47

Fearless31 · 09/10/2026 18:46

I'm also only one more 'bullying' video or post away from taking the evidence of her personally committing fraud by misrepresentation to the police. I'm not sure how serving a few years in prison will fit in with the positive mum always at the school gates image. Did I mention that my brother is a partner in a top London law firm.........

@Fearless31 I don’t post very often on these threads as I don’t have much to add, but I wanted to say how much I admire you for using your experience to blow this sham apart.

Headband is a toxic witch who hides behind her ‘Su Pollard / Bonnie Langford’ grin and needs to be exposed for the heartless cow she really is.

The sad thing is, I don’t think she’s even bright enough to see she’s being taken for a ride, but her ‘fake it until you make it’ mentality overrides everything.

Fearless31 · 09/10/2026 20:21

@notgettinganyyounger Thank you for those lovely words. I can't and won't let it go. Not while they are still going after vulnerable people. I found out something really awful about headband today. I can't put it on here, but it proves just how low she is willing to go. What did she say in that rant, was it something about being like a dog with a bone? Yep, that's me.

Fearless31 · 09/10/2026 20:34

@Butterflyfluff thank you.
You have summed her up perfectly. She really can't see it. 13 years she's been plugging away at this and she's still nowhere. Pretty much everything she says is MLM nonsense speak. She absolutely cannot think for herself. In the full text exchange, she says she is 'capable of doing her own research'. I replied, 'I don't believe that you are capable because you would have found all this out for yourself if you were'. She lives, breathes, eats and sleeps Forever.

Galadali · 09/10/2026 21:10

I'm also a lurker these days, but I wanted to add my support to you @Fearless31
I did my own little bit of FL stirring a few years back when Yawn was pushing her downline to recruit (send care packages) through a local women's refuge charity. The pushback from the huns at the school gate (well, on the school FB page TBH) when it hit the media was horrible. It even made the first story on the local radio news that day too and people who didn't know me said they felt sorry for my children having such a vile mom. Of course, I was labelled a bully and Yawn and her minions played the victim, removed the posts at the charity's request and switched to shilling "cancer packs" instead which the local breast cancer unit were apparently thrilled to receive. It's like whack-a-mole but I suspect you've got more fire in your belly than me. Go get 'em!

Spongebobette · 09/10/2026 22:03

Oh that’s awful @Galadali

they really are ruthless, these bots. And I remember all those ‘care packs’ being used to help with the CCs.

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