BOTWATCH 93! The latest in a long running anti MLM thread. We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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New thread, welcome one and all

Oops, meant to say welcome and well done to you @Fearless31 👏

Please film and broadcast your Aloe Experience evening @Fearless31! It would be the perfect antidote to those ghastly cult rallies, the horrors of which you’ve kindly disclosed in excruciating detail. Will you and your friends be wearing comedy headbands to match your hazmat suits?

Does anyone remember when Forever Living bots used to host “Sizzles” for their teams? I think they were intended to resemble success days on a miniature scale. They were very sad and limp - a bit like Weird Willy and his basil.

Bloodsucker:

“Today I was reminded of one of the unique qualities of building a successful business with the [Aloe Vera pyramid scheme]. Something that is often overlooked or taken for granted.

And that is the fact that in our company, businesses are built on a cultural foundation of celebration, not competition or comparison.
Everyone has the same opportunity to succeed. The same opportunity to achieve the incentives and to reap the financial rewards that accompany them.

Watching global business builders celebrate the success of others without an underlying tension that their success denied someone else from achieving it is a wonderfully rewarding thing to see in reality. All the successful leaders I've mentored over the last 30 years in [Aloe Vera pyramid scheme], guiding them to stay in their lane, be authentic to who they really are, and encouraging them to stay away from comparing themselves to others has been one of the most valuable gifts I could share as their mentor”.

It’s all bollocks of course, but this stood out,

“Everyone has the same opportunity to succeed. The same opportunity to achieve the incentives and to reap the financial rewards that accompany them”.

That is simply not true. If it was there would not be nearly 90% of all participants in Forever Living making no money or ending up in the red.

@notgettinganyyounger
When you buy your box, you are an 'Assistant Supervisor'. When you hit your 4cc for a few months (can't remember exactly) you get upgraded to 'Active Supervisor'. When you hit 10cc in one month you gain Supervisor status. This is the highest level you can reach before you have to begin recruiting. It used to be 25cc but in troubling times it was lowered to 10cc. It's just nonsense. You aren't supervising anyone. I asked headband what it all actually meant and, true to form, she didn't have an answer. For someone who has been in FL for 13 years she actually knows zero about anything. She just blindly follows and repeats whatever nonsense the Bloodsucker spouts. In order to reach 4cc you need to spend/sell about £630. To remain active you have to do this every month. On the 1st of each month you go back to 0cc and have to do it all over again. At least 1cc has to be your own personal use, which is about £150. Every month!!! Even with me doing markets most weekends, I never got close to 4cc and was never really bothered. Headband, on the other hand, kept frantically pushing and pushing me. Every week it was, send me your volume map and your strategy. Where are your CCs coming from? How many people have you spoken to today, this week, this month, the whole of your life? And you are made to feel like a failure if you don't get your 4cc, because 'everyone should easily be making that'. In reality, how many people can actually afford to spend £150 every month on this stuff?

@YouOKHun I've just seen that pile of shite, too. Had to sit on my hands for 10 minutes until the urge to type "do you actually believe the total crap that comes out of your mouth every time you open it?" had passed. She's one of the few that I can still see on fb. I'm blocked from loads of them now.

In all my many years in accounting, it has always seemed to me that businesses should be built on a cultural foundation of a USP; budgets; costings; forecasts; and knowing that there is a fundamental difference between turnover and profit, but there you go. Oh yes, and not being your own best customer.

Bloody hell,£150 a month! What if you don't have £150 as I'm sure many don't.
It's incredible really. And with headband on your case, obviously as she will get a slice of whatever you bring to the table. The pressure must be awful, amd once you've invested so much you have to just keep going otherwise you've lost the lot.

I was thinking about what you said about headband having no mates outside FL. I wonder if that's also partly why she stays. If she gives it up, she has nobody. I also wonder if she missed your first success day because she'd been sick due to the gloop or she couldn't afford the costs of the day.

Gorblimey, 10CC, that's a massive difference from the old days. Just shows how desperate it has all become.

Sorry I'm constantly editing the spelling on my posts. Ive lost my glasses and working from a phone which I can't bloody see 😀

So the first success day, you go on stage and get awarded with a sash because you bought a box and become assistant supervisor! Thats just so funny!

@notgettinganyyounger it's hilarious isn't it? I was stood on the stage feeling and looking totally bewildered. Wtaf is going on here then? 😂 I think MV must have noticed because he came over and gave me a hug 🤮

Headband has no choice but to stay. She's in way too deep, really. Her whole life is defined by Forever and plastered all over social media. Her whole image is about being positive, caring, supportive, helping and I've just blown that apart. It's the fake love from FL that keeps her going. I did thank the compliance team for the truly heartwarming care and support I'd received from my Forever Family in my reply to their letter 😂

@HotAsSatansBalls definitely will be filming it. Laughed out loud at your comedy headband comment. I hadn't thought of that but we will be now. Thank you

Headband was definitely sick that day. It was happening in my flat when her and the red one came to pick me up. She was throwing up on my doorstep. Her fella had to come and get her. Her son had it as well.
If they all keep drinking the gloop every day, they will probably end up with liver damage. HB talks all the time about how it cured her IBS, but the truth is, if you have IBS and drink too much of it, you could possibly end up in hospital on a drip with severe diarrhoea. It's not meant to be drunk on a long-term basis. Also, you're not meant to drink it if you're on blood thinners. I bet none of them know any of that. There is never any real training on the products and none on the drinking gels at all, except how to convince someone who buys 1 bottle a month to buy a box of 4 instead. It's almost all about the 'business'.

And giving it to children? So many bots are giving their children aloe to drink every day

Great Spot @OhMyGiddyAunt well done! I'm barred from the FB of 2Jags, her friend you've just referred to and Tractor Bot (as they are all friends 2Jags must have told them to block me) I'm sure from memory certainly on 2Jags FB there are many references to the PT Bot leaving her job, doubling her salary, being the mum at the school gates, being able to leave work to go fulltime on the bizzniss. What a con artist when there she is working away. I found a post from that college from 2021 from her so that's at least 5 years she has been working. The truth will always out!

Here you go ...

Yep that’s her

and 2jags is working at a butcher’s I believe

I see castle is off to Thailand with the ex Arbonne bot who was on a reality nanny show.

The ex arbonne bot is bringing her kids, castle is leaving hers behind.

The ex arbonne bot claims to be worth 40
m, so similar to what castle claims to make from her email list

Castle says she’s going away with her ‘friend’😂 Arbonne says she’s organised a retreat. I’m not sure if there will be a reality nanny, but and wait

Castle and Arbonne now have matching cheek fillers. I think it has the potential for more pitfalls than Roomie and Yawn

So if she’s going away this coming Sunday, for 9 days, she’ll be away for at least part of her sons’ half term
grandparents to the rescue again

Cheek fillers and hair extensions, combined with filters, making Castie look very fake

Why on earth would a successful business owner like 2Jags need to work at a butcher’s shop? Does she wear a sash as part of her uniform?

yes, she spins that as doing her stepdads social media and he's recently had an op so helping him out, but on his company FB she's always there working in the background and I saw some stories where she had roped in the other staff on a cleanse :( some looked quite young like weekend staff. She has no scruples or shame perhaps that is really why she left the force.

The sash will say "Thick As Mince" instead of manager!

That lady looks looks very unwell and underweight. She has the same puppy as Bruv I wonder if they were from the same litter from a MLM puppy farm. I can't imagine what you'd learn from her on a retreat other than vacuous platitudes tips to draw your eyebrows on with a sharpie and no substantial refreshments for your money. Castle just tagging along to be grateful to be included and not really giving a toss about leaving her kids. The last time she went away she said her youngest turret forgot about her and blamed her parents in so many words.

😂😂 @user1471446301 love it!

She could alternate it with another sash: “I tell sell porkies!”