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BOTWATCH 93! The latest in a long running anti MLM thread. We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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Spongebobette · 12/08/2026 10:36

New thread, welcome one and all

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YouOKHun · 07/10/2026 13:57

HQ’s September Chumps Post has 2 photos featuring bots. One of the pics is Mrs Boring (Level 1 qualifier) no picture of the Level 3 qualifier husband. This to me isn’t just a random thing, it’s part of a subtle move to capture her as a success individually without him.

Crikeyalmighty · 07/10/2026 14:39

Spongebobette · 07/10/2026 13:16

Hang on

you mean you’re not paying your own travel expenses, food and accommodation AND you don’t have to pay to attend????

incredible

Indeed

notgettinganyyounger · 07/10/2026 15:09

Does anyone know how much the aloe drinks are via a FBO? I just had a quick look on Ebay and there is stacks of the stuff. Obviously can't get rid of it and having to keep buying it to stay in the game.

Also how much does a FBO buy it for? Wondering what the mark up is? There must be quite a mark up due to everyone getting a slice of each bottle sold.

Fearless31 · 07/10/2026 15:14

@HotAsSatansBalls Hi, and thank you. I am tough and I had to do the right thing, once I found out the truth. Headband certainly showed her true colours. The whole recruiting side and constantly harassing people always felt 'off' to me. Within a couple of months I realised that the whole free prize draw questionnaires were just a data collecting exercise. I doubt that anyone did actually win a prize. They keep them for years and go back to the same people over and over again - 'the fortune is in the follow up' after all!

orangehandles · 07/10/2026 15:31

I believe that when a Ltd Company is placed into bankruptcy, the name of the insolvency practitioner is usually given on the Companies House website under the bankrupt business details. I'm sure that all insolvency practitioners would be more than happy to receive inside or other additional information from a variety of sources with regard to any directors, their associates and any linked / associated businesses.

Just saying.😇

Fearless31 · 07/10/2026 16:05

I've been to two success days. I 'qualified' for free tickets for both of them. I've still got my free ticket for the November one, but I'm not sure I'll be very welcome 😂
It is like stepping into another universe and they are most definitely cult like. Booming music, high fives and hugs everywhere you look. Screaming, shouting, whooping and chanting 'one team, one goal' over and over again. The hero worshipping of the leaders, especially Bloodsucker (I love the names you have all given them). They fawn all over her and would literally lick the shit off her shoes. And then, there is the recognition. Parading around on the stage, with your stupid sash on. And it's all a scam!! I have 2 sashes for achieving 'active supervisor'. Not because I did actually achieve that but purely so headband could collect the photos. Now, because she wasn't at the first one as she was throwing up and only the red one who never smiles and me were there, at the 2nd one headband made me do it all again, along with 3 others in her team who hadn't achieved it either, so she could get the photo with us all wearing our sashes. I said I wasn't going up there again and she practically dragged me to the stage.
The second one was held at the Ricoh arena in July. That was a light bulb moment for me, when I really did start to see through it all. The special guest was flown in from South Africa and she was huge and I mean huge. If you've seen any pictures of her, they really don't show just how big she is - "yes", she said, " I'm....a....big, black...... African......woman.....but....I have.....no......health.....issues". Everyone in the room was cheering and clapping and I'm thinking "except for the fact that she can't walk, talk and breathe at the same time". For me, it was embarrassing.
The 'success' stories all start to sound the same. Single parent, hate job, low income, bullied, blah, blah, blah. And let's not forget the merch. Queuing for hours to buy a cap or a keyring. Headband has the Forever trainers, btw. The red one spent over £200 on merch!!
That was the day I decided I would do the markets I'd already paid for but then I was out. I told headband that was my plan, and of course, she tried to persuade me otherwise 'you're made for Forever, go back to your why', etc. In the meantime, I started researching. Initially, I focused on the ingredients because I'd already had concerns about some of the products. They are literally all garbage. One product in their whole range can be legitimately called natural and that's the original drinking gel. I noticed that the ingredients listed on the website were not the same as those on the actual packaging. Missing from the website were all the most harmful ingredients. Then I instinctively asked Google this question " Is Forever Living uk financially stable?" And here we are today.

Fearless31 · 07/10/2026 16:08

Oh and please do give me clues as to who the Borings are? I'm finding it hard to get any info from socials because they've blocked me from it all
Thank you as well for all your lovely comments about me and your support. I just did the right thing, really

Fearless31 · 07/10/2026 16:13

Oh and that little video of her 'team' is most definitely taken from the Transform Tuesday training session. Every bloody week from 8pm - 9pm. Just another manager telling her story with a few slides showing us all how we can achieve it, too.
Headbands current team exists of 18 women but only 6 or 7 are actively trying to grow a business. Her 2nd in command is 2 years in and still has a full time job plus 2 other part time jobs, but that's okay - it takes time to build a Forever business

Fearless31 · 07/10/2026 16:24

@notgettinganyyounger they are £27.08 full price. 30% off for an Assistant Supervisor. Then 35% off going up to 48% off for managers and above. You can get better quality ones for at least £10 cheaper. FL has a team that track down people selling them on Ebay and Amazon, etc and literally close the FBOs business down and ban them for life.
I have stock left over, but I can't sell it on, because they are so full of toxic crap. Instead, I'm holding an Aloe Experience evening with my friends, where we will be partying whilst emptying the bottles and tubes into bins, wearing full Hazmat suits and filming it all

Spongebobette · 07/10/2026 16:39

You should definitely post that!!

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Spongebobette · 07/10/2026 17:03

Fearless31 · 07/10/2026 16:13

Oh and that little video of her 'team' is most definitely taken from the Transform Tuesday training session. Every bloody week from 8pm - 9pm. Just another manager telling her story with a few slides showing us all how we can achieve it, too.
Headbands current team exists of 18 women but only 6 or 7 are actively trying to grow a business. Her 2nd in command is 2 years in and still has a full time job plus 2 other part time jobs, but that's okay - it takes time to build a Forever business

And is she constantly urging her team to buy products?

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Fearless31 · 07/10/2026 17:17

Yes. She wants you to put in at least 2 orders each month. Calls and texts if you haven't. "I've noticed you haven't put in an order yet, hun. Is everything okay?" "Let me know if you need any support"

Spongebobette · 07/10/2026 18:07

‘Support’ ???

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dickiedavisthunderthighs · 07/10/2026 18:48

Fearless31 · 07/10/2026 16:24

@notgettinganyyounger they are £27.08 full price. 30% off for an Assistant Supervisor. Then 35% off going up to 48% off for managers and above. You can get better quality ones for at least £10 cheaper. FL has a team that track down people selling them on Ebay and Amazon, etc and literally close the FBOs business down and ban them for life.
I have stock left over, but I can't sell it on, because they are so full of toxic crap. Instead, I'm holding an Aloe Experience evening with my friends, where we will be partying whilst emptying the bottles and tubes into bins, wearing full Hazmat suits and filming it all

OK, I'm slightly in love with you now. Please 'hop on and do a quick live'.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 07/10/2026 18:52

Borings

Surname is the same surname of the famous cartoon character created by Charles M Schulz.
His first name - one half of Simon and Garfunkle (the boring name)
Her - late Queen of England who wore mourning dress for most of her reign.

notgettinganyyounger · 07/10/2026 20:21

Oh wow,I think this is the most inside info we have ever had on headband! Absolutely loving it. Not you being scammed of course but the behind the scenes truth.

Im just so pleased you found us. When we first began all these threads we actually used the real names but then had to resort to nicknames. We will help you with any other names you need to work out.

notgettinganyyounger · 07/10/2026 20:24

Omg Forever trainers 🤣🤣, i reckon that tops the yellow suitcases for cringe

user1471446301 · 07/10/2026 20:27

Below are the wise Words from the Oharey FL Fugitive. Ecosystem what a tosser. Encouraging you to ditch the sane ones around you. Notice he doesn't mention he has any friends of his own in wanky eco system.

"Growth sometimes means letting people go. Not in a cruel way, just honest about who is in your ecosystem.
The people around you lift you up or wear you down. Choose the ones who make you better, inside the business and out.
For me that is my family, especially my wife, and a management team that is remarkable"

notgettinganyyounger · 07/10/2026 21:10

Deary me

notgettinganyyounger · 07/10/2026 21:18

@Fearless31 sorry another quick question.

A 'supervisor' is what exactly? How does one reach supervisor and who are they supervising?

Cheers!

definitelynotabot · 07/10/2026 21:27

notgettinganyyounger · 07/10/2026 21:18

@Fearless31 sorry another quick question.

A 'supervisor' is what exactly? How does one reach supervisor and who are they supervising?

Cheers!

From memory, it means you have "done" 25CC over 2 months. Usually you would need to have recruited a few to achieve that

YouOKHun · 07/10/2026 21:38

@orangehandles yes I’d noted the willingness of insolvency practitioners to accept information that may be relevant to their investigations. I have an entire timeline of events in my head and a flow chart of the companies and characters involved that I am willing to share when the time comes!

Spongebobette · 07/10/2026 21:41

You’ve supervised the rinsing of your bank account and the alienating of friends and family

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HotAsSatansBalls · 07/10/2026 21:41

Spongebobette · 07/10/2026 18:07

‘Support’ ???

Harassment! 😳

OhMyGiddyAunt · 07/10/2026 21:52

Oooh has 2Jags just dropped a bollock!?

She's taken her daughter to a college (or "collage" according to the not too bright 2 Jags) open evening and in her stories outs her bestie and fellow FLP bot as being the "collage tutor"

Said bestie has never mentioned having a J.O.B.

(Not sure if we have a name for her on these threads....always running/training for runs, recently went to Disney World, has a daughter)