BOTWATCH 93! The latest in a long running anti MLM thread. We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

[Spongebobette]

New thread, welcome one and all

Blimey, Yawn’s got a rowing machine now!

She really is the epitome of ‘all the gear and no idea’ isn’t she?

There’s literally not enough room in her ‘gym’ to have people actually using the equipment.

@orangehandles indeed.
Limited companies have shareholders & directors, Partnerships have partners, MLM companies have bullies, chancers, mugs and victims and all those roles are interchangeable.

You can buy Yawn's rowing machine for £21.29 on Ebay! manufactured in 2015-2016 it's a really budget home rowing machine. I can't imagine it's up to the rigours of constant use or matches up to real Gym machines, but then tbf I don't think her Gym is going to be that busy. (V-Fit Rowing Machine Rower with LCD Display, Silver/Black/Orange)

I see also she has one of those cheap plastic moisture absorbers in the corner of the shed and it already looks full. The shed isn't insulated at all and If it's already getting damp good luck with getting a squad of 4 people in together sweating away with the door closed as it's cold it's going to go mouldy in there very quickly. I don't think "the vibe will be super fresh" for long. It's a lovely set up for home use and family but a disaster waiting to happen outside of these users.

Agreed, although Limited Companies are owned by the shareholders, they can be individuals or other legal entities. A partnership can technically own 100% of the shares in a Ltd co, so who knows what the real position is.

Yawn will be sharing how she built her business so quickly and sold out in a month. Which business is she referring to? Unlucky Girls Club, the affiliate scheme, selling Forever Living on the side, Build a Bear coaching with the kitchen table away day, the ambassador-less club, the TikTok selling of patches, the dodgy PT qualification and the GDPR and local council rule breaking risk assessment free personal training?

When will she realise that her audience (such as it is) is not the same as it was when it was made up of people desperately trying to make Forever living work for them and clinging to someone who said they had the answers. There is nothing to bind them to her now, especially not in the numbers she needs to make any of her schemes work in the long term. How long do we give Mrs Stickman’s current association with Yawn (which I am sure she isn’t paying for)? A couple more weeks or up until Yawn first broaches the subject of payment?

There is no way Yawn is compliant with the rules, the list is exhaustive to open a personal gym at home, it's all been a hash rushed job just to bring in money quickly, if she's going to play music she'll need a license for that due to copyright laws, I've never seen such a bodge half baked set up in my life..all it takes is one complaint from a neighbour to the council and she's done for

It really is so bizarre. There is no way on earth she will get genuine customers (well, ones that will return after their first session). To put all that time and money into the shed/loo is ridiculous.

I cannot understand why a) she can't see that and b) her husband can't either.

Yawns husband neither likes or comments on her posts anymore....

You fill your boots Uber if you want to work on a Sunday. What about the poor deluded bots like Headband, Manchester to Monmouth 6 hour round trip and a good 80 quid in fuel just to eat some biscuits someones done as a freebie and to throw some post-it notes on a bonfire in the back garden, you might as well have thrown £150 in the fire with your 6 hour drive at minimum wage and fuel cost, not to forget the cost of a Costa to gurn with in your car.

It doesn't look like there was any lunch put on as not one attendee has posted a pic of any spread, just holding up a free biscuit.
And why does Bloodsucker during the introductions say "Army" as her past career? wasn't she always the poor single mother farmer, why the sudden career shift. Bloodsuck, Uber and the other 'Leaders' there you are abhorrent greedy grifters.

Yes poor old Headband. What a long day. ‘Shattered but it was SO worth it’.

was it though?

Apparently Mr Headband starts a new job today so that should help cover the fuel costs. Perhaps he’d like to tell the HR department to send 80% of his salary straight to Uber? That would save headband from driving around the UK and harassing people at the school gates for much the same outcome.

None of those bots could afford to be there I don't think. Check out Richard Burton's ex wife stories it's so creepy how she talks about the day she's really botted up.

its like she’s in a cult

she IS in a cult - worshipping Bloodsucker

Interesting that Techie wasn't on last night's online already-poorly-attended class.

I’m finding it hard to believe that Mrs stickman paid Yawn £50

I completely agree with you @Spongebobette, having just watched the sped up version of their PT session then I’m baffled as to what they’ve done that you couldn’t do in a strength and conditioning class or kettlecise class which you’d pay a £10 for. She’s definitely getting it free for being able to use content.
what really concerned me though is Mrs Stickmans polished tiles (and the dog weeing halfway through) and Mrs Stickman nearly doing the splits through each exercise. You can see her feet sliding outwards every time, how Yawn didn’t pick this up is beyond me.

@dickiedavisthunderthighs yes, I am sure there is a bit of distancing going on. Perhaps it’s just the summer that has caused this. I wonder if Techie is realising, after a bit of distance, that Yawn is all about window dressing and there is no substance to anything she does. Techie has been part of creating the illusion for long enough surely?

If Yawn’s focus on her PT’ing produces any money at all (while she is utilising Techie’s time and skill to try and promote it), I wonder if she plans to put the £40 fees into the BaB pot? Not a chance. If I was Techie I’d be pricing up my time and the value of my input but I think she still has a downline way of accepting what she is told by the “more Successful” Yawn, which is what caused Techie’s FLP debts back in the day.

The other problem for the rather mild seeming Techie is that extracting herself from Yawn will be nasty. There will be no sensible agreement to part ways. Yawn will panic and start passive aggressive attacks. I wouldn’t be surprised if Techie is praying the PT’ing takes off so she can slip out of the exit while Yawn is emptying the illegal bot potty and filling up the rule breaking jug of water for hand washing.

There is no way Mrs Stickman has parted with a penny and she has swerved Yawn’s flimsy gym as well, as far as I can see, saving herself some fuel costs too.

I can’t see how it is useful content for Yawn as it just looks like two friends messing around to me and Yawn demonstrating a complete lack of awareness about potential injury as you say @ticktock19 . They will fall out and Mrs Stickman will call the council and/or call Yawn out on a lack of training, it’s just a matter of time.

One of Yawn’s insta posts containing various supposed texts has a small picture of Yawn in the bottom left corner, at least I assume it’s supposed to be Yawn - when did she get a sleeve tattoo and a torso tattoo as well?!

mrs s is doing it for content

she looks much fitter than Yawn and could easily go to a class but this way she may get a few new followers and I’m sure the sessions were gratis

Mrs Stickman is advertising for a Gym Buddy to come along when Yawn visits. I'd say because Yawn is "training" her for free Yawn's asked for a shout out hoping someone will join her and pay. I would not pay £50 to slip and slide in dog piss on a unsuitable tiled floor and risk splitting my difference. Let alone the 2 dogs winding all around my legs whilst paying for the privilege.

That does makes sense, Mrs S does seem to be a wannabe influencer so hoping a follower will pay for the sessions sounds very logical. Yawn will be tied in to the free sessions otherwise forever 🤣. I would not wanting to be swinging kettlebells round in my dining room or where there are dogs. One slip and disaster or they could crack the slippy tiles

Just came across this page properly and have sussed out who the Borings are. Lots and lots of dodgy history there that is both unsurprising but also sad if there were others bamboozled. More of her family were involved than just the parents and a lot of extended family and friends drawn in by the outward glitz and glamour i fear. How do we find out more about the cases and if there were others? Or what the resolution was? It seems to go blank after all those dates. I also don't know how to access the company house information to look up the company names without their names. Any help appreciated.

It doesn’t look like Yawn has had any takers for the actual gym yet. As everyone has suggested Mrs Stickman is probably getting a freeby and the rest are using their online subs privilege.

The way Yawn’s silhouette changes on a daily basis suggests she is struggling with her AI on her laptop. Or maybe Techie has refused to help with the constant editing. Maybe she is starting to get worried about being associated with a scam artist.

Techie is doing her utmost to support by providing an enthusiastic testimonial after every online fitness session!!

She’s not a paying customer of course though 😬