BOTWATCH 93! The latest in a long running anti MLM thread. We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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New thread, welcome one and all

@user1471446301 yes I did notice that. It’s a return to home territory for one of them. Perhaps it’s in her name if it’s owned. They’re clearly in trouble having overstretched and he must realise Forever Living can’t possibly save the day. Their invisibility must have affected the retention of bots at Choose Your Insolvency Limited. Unless there is a huge stash under the mattress to save the day?

The bots must have cottoned on to something but don’t they sign some disparagement clause which says there can be no discussion outside or within teams about financial disaster or they risk losing their “own business”? Doubt must not be allowed to seep in and take hold! I wonder what the bots have been told and how the sudden disappearance has been explained? It looks like they have been told that there is a bit of local difficulty due to negative outside forces that ARE NOTHING TO DO WITH FOREVER LIVING! We’ll just ignore that dodgy high street set up which was all about FLP and probably a large nail in their business coffin. I have no sympathy for that pair of smug grifters.

Yes from the company policy "An FBO is prohibited from disparaging other FBOs, FLP’s products/services, the marketing and compensation plan, or FLP’s employees to other FBOs or third parties. Any questions, suggestions or comments regarding these issues should be directed in writing to FLP’s corporate offices only".

When I have contacted FLP UK re Rictuses 30K Months and the Borings closed shop I was just blocked, they don't give a stuff.

@user1471446301 but you pointing out an income claim is an entirely different matter. FLP’s responsibility is to have a word with her, tell her not to do it again and get the claim taken down, which they haven’t done.

“Compliance” in the MLM world seems to be about intimidating and silencing bots and finding ways to explain away iffy conduct rather than monitoring the business for compliance with applicable laws. The Kray Brothers operated a very efficient Compliance Department with similar principles.

They may be able to shut the bots down but no one else has signed on the dotted line so we are free to disparage away, state publicly available facts and share publicly available lies told by FLP and their bots.

If I was Techie, I’d be right naffed off with yawns latest story, apparently being a Pt is what she’s been waiting for and after finally wondering why (she had to leave FL) and what she was to do with her life over the past 2 years, it’s now clear to her and being a PT is the answer.
Get out now Techie, she’s an ungrateful mare and you deserve much more

If I was Techie I would sting Yawn for a new PT Website make sure I was paid up for the buildabear site then pull the plug, block and run.

If I was Techie I would sting Yawn for a new PT Website make sure I was paid up for the buildabear site then pull the plug, block and run.

Those Boring numbers aren't good, are they.

Yawn's started advertising her PT services on one of the local Facebook pages.

In 8 hours she's got one comment (Mrs Stickman) and 2 likes (one is Mrs Stickman).

I wonder if Yawn thought people would be falling over themselves to book her as their PT ? The thing is, in Malvern, there are quite a few female PTs , some have been around for years and have well-earned great reputations.

Anyone remember Yawn saying she was going to dedicate her life to the Unlucky Girl Academy? Didn't make any money......NEXT! She's such a fly by night

Oh dear. Things are anything but boring for the Borings.

Mr Boring is indeed on the brink of bankruptcy and some “major creditors” have served a formal statutory warning to Mr Boring demanding payment for an alleged debt “exceeding £5,000”. I think this is typically used as a severe legal pressure tactic and if it’s ignored, the creditors can immediately petition the court to declare Mr Boring bankrupt (I’m no lawyer so if my AI legal advisor has got that wrong I apologise!).

Mr Boring has actively challenged this by filing an Application to Set Aside a Statutory Demand (ASASD) and has brought the creditors to a Welsh court to thrash it out, and is attempting to prove to the judge that the debt is genuinely disputed, that he has a valid counterclaim, or that the demand was served incorrectly - anything to keep the wolf from the door.

The court scheduled multiple daily hearings throughout July and early August 2026 so it sounds like there has been heavily contested evidence or extensive arguments from both sides before it’s decided whether to throw out the debt demand or allow the bankruptcy track to proceed. The final decision has not yet been published.

The “creditor” was a partner in the FLP oriented limited company though not a director, but it sounds like they may have sunk money into the bizniz, I suspect they may have funded the high street shop.

And here is the kicker: the people saying they’re owed money who are pushing Mr Boring over the cliff into bankruptcy and who Mr Boring is facing across a courtroom are Mrs Boring’s parents.

Awkward.

Wow!!!!

Excellent detective work @YouOKHun . How on earth did you uncover all that?

Wow, great find @YouOKHun her poor parents. Looked like it first went to court 26/5/26 I wonder if that was when the house was sold and they tried to get their money back, but there was nothing to give? what an utter mess.

Their family get-together at Christmas won’t be much fun

Ooff yawns latest video of her in the pink top and black leggings tells quite a telling story. She has a very very different body to the one she photoshops herself

I bet Mrs Borings Dad will rue the day he threw them both together. He was obviously looking to offload, get his spare room back and no longer have to financially support her and saw the hey day £ signs Mr Boring was showing. He too must have got roped into FL to have known Mr Boring. I think they will want Mr Boring's head on a plate instead of a Turkey for Christmas, or trussed up like a suckling pig with an apple stuffed up each orifice.

From her nauseating follow the puke post.
"Back in 2014 my dad rather astutely noticed that Mr Boring and I might make a good couple and, as we’d both become single at the same time, he threw it out there to gauge my reaction. My reaction surprised me but not him. His question was “we’re off to Lanzarote next week; how will you feel if Mr Boring's been snapped up when we get home?” Well, it seems, I’d have been more than mildly put out. My oh-so-wise father suggested that I might like to get a wriggle on with broaching things with Mr Boring".

Yes the side profile at the start shows her natural figure, (nothing wrong with that), but it certainly doesn't match the abs, flat stomach and figure she shared in her underwear (with her original overweight self) which I'm convinced is her head photo shopped onto a underwear models body.

Bloody hell @YouOKHun that’s some exceptional sleuthing, what an awkward situation

I can’t pretend I am some kind of super sleuth but yesterday I thought I’d do a little light googling of Mrs Boring who, when times were good, was very happy to share the romance of marrying her upline’s upline’s upline’s upline as her way of moving up the pyramid. There are quite a few smug posts and one or two include her mother so I googled her (first name the same as the professional name of Edna Mae Durbin and second name the same as the mints advertisers told us were too good to hurry. Dad’s name is the same as cricketer Botham).This led me to the court in Wales.

Dad mentions on Linkedin that he is a partner in Choose Your Downfall Ltd and chucks in a few health claims for the jizz while he’s at it. I suspect he needs to edit his LinkedIn! This “partnership” I take for code that he has poured money into the FLP based company and has been waiting for the bonanza. The publicly available information says “an amount over £5000” as a threshold but judging by the various court dates it looks like both parties are fighting for their lives. It makes me wonder if the Boring in-laws are on the brink of kissing goodbye to their pension and hopes of comfortable twilight years. Or are angry that a sizeable gift to their daughter has passed through her fingers, been handed to Mr Boring and funnelled into propping up a lost cause.

@user1471446301 I think you are spot on about how this has come to pass. Mrs Boring has helpfully supplied a back catalogue of smug posts which help fill in the gaps. I think she was knocking around working as a secretary and trying her hand at FLP with her parents plugging the gap such as the horse kept in full livery etc etc. Along comes Mr Big and Boring FiL thinks, ‘this man has a secondhand Bentley, a fat cigar and is at the top of his company. He can provide an Aga and room for a pony’. FiL’s former career as a legal liability claims assessor and loss adjuster doesn’t seem to have helped him in his assessment of his SiL. Still, back then the Borings looked to be on the up. The in-laws couldn’t see it was a heavily mortgaged superficial show of wealth, though I think it’s obvious Mr Boring is a Del Trotter. The in-laws must have trusted what they were told about FLP which would have taken very little research to clarify the reality.

The alternative is that they gave money to their daughter as a gift and because she (Mrs Boring) is a bit of silly billy she has handed it to Mr Boring to do whatever it is that he does that pays for the Aga. As the high street presence stalled it’s become apparent to the in laws that their gift to their child has been frittered on trying to keep up the FLP lifestyle. Mrs Boring is luckily for her not a director of the companies but I doubt she has ever had a handle on the money, and now it’s gone. I wonder if the great Boring romance can survive this? No wonder FLP have silenced the pair of them.

Good Sleuthing and clues @YouOKHun, thank you. I think Mrs Borings Dad was already in the FL hole when he organised the arranged marriage. There is a post on his FB where he is looking quite young and states "Here I was outside the main entrance to Forever’s Head Office premises in Phoenix, Arizona several years ago". The Boring couple are no longer friends of Mum & Dad on FB she used to be as I'd seen her comment a few times. You reap what you sow but what a sad situation at their time of life and a position you'd never think you'd be with your adult child, all caused by MLM greed

@user1471446301 ah I’d missed the father already being part of FLP. So a real cult marriage for the Borings. When the final decision is made by the judge it will either kick off Mr Boring’s bankruptcy proceedings or some other bad outcome for the parents but it is a lose lose for Mrs Boring whichever way it goes. Was Forever Living really worth the wholesale sacrifice of close family, no doubt wider family, friends, reputation and security?

If Mr B is broke or she finds herself single and back at the bottom of the pyramid without the bank of mum and dad she is going to have to reflect on her speeches about FLP being about the empowerment of women.

It’s a marvellous tale of what happens if you believe the lies told by MLMs including Forever Living.

Finances ruined, families exploited and broken

Dad mentions on Linkedin that he is a partner in Choose Your Downfall Ltd

Fancy that. And there was me thinking that Ltd Companies have shareholders & directors, and that Partnerships have partners.

Any clues to the Borings please? The clues have probably been given out before but I missed it I think, thank you x

@hourglass2 surname is the same colour as bullshit. One has the same first name as the queen who died in 1901 and a middle name the same as actress Horrocks. He has the same first name as the late actor Newman (that’s where the similarities end) and a middle name the same as actor Caine.