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BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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YouOKHun · 29/04/2026 02:15

A bit of information for those curious about MLM.
Forever Living goes tits up https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/
The Dream
The Secrets of the Multilevel Millionaires
Recruitment fibs https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/the-recruiting-lies-mlms-tell-you/
Why did they leave MLM? https://mlmtruth.org/2020/06/18/breaking-up-with-your-mlm/
Infographic mlmtruth.org/infographic/

Why has Forever Living Products closed down its MLM business in the USA? - Talented Ladies Club

Why has MLM Forever Living Products shut down its USA MLM arm? Could the company be in trouble? We find out why.

https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/

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YouOKHun · 15/06/2026 13:24

At last there is menopause support out there! Preacher bot is offering menopause support no doubt with a liberal dose of Aloe Vera for those who want to add gaslighting and debt to their challenges.

I think Preacher is going to be positioning himself as the wellbeing go-to on the back of his recent good news about his illness. This good news will be subtly credited to drinking cartons of expensive jizz. There is no way he won’t be using this to recruit and sell because he has some serious ground to make up given that his illness will have dented his earnings last year. Downlines are bound to have disappeared during that time. I doubt any bot can come back from a break in FL activity and regain the ground they’ve lost these days.

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Spongebobette · 15/06/2026 14:17

The blurring of religion and recruitment to FL is troublesome

YouOKHun · 15/06/2026 14:55

agree @Spongebobette. I also think there is an element of quasi therapy in the mix. I had a further look at his feed and I notice he’s introducing a supportive/mentoring role. As long as FLP features on his social media he can’t be trusted.

He says
“Life can sometimes feel overwhelming, and we all need support, encouragement or simply someone to listen.

I’ve put together this short video to explain a little more about what I do and the areas where I may be able to help, including encouragement and positivity, personal growth, men’s support, community and connection, health and wellbeing, business and leadership, cancer and recovery, and faith-based support when requested.

My aim isn’t to have all the answers. It’s simply to walk alongside people, listen without judgement, and help them take their next step forward. If any part of this resonates with you, feel free to get in touch for a free 30-minute introductory conversation.”

what’s the betting the Next Step Forward for anyone who trusts him is into FLP?

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Spongebobette · 15/06/2026 15:47

Weird Willy has popped up yet again with a post about being TOO nice -as always it sounds as though he’s had something happen in his personal life that requires him to seek therapy (through inviting other people to talk to him about bring TOO NICE)

  • I’m too agreeable and nice
  • I am too
  • It’s hard being so nice
  • Yes it is
  • Have you tried being a bit less nice?
  • No, good idea, I’ll do that then
  • Me too
dickiedavisthunderthighs · 15/06/2026 16:51

YouOKHun · 15/06/2026 14:55

agree @Spongebobette. I also think there is an element of quasi therapy in the mix. I had a further look at his feed and I notice he’s introducing a supportive/mentoring role. As long as FLP features on his social media he can’t be trusted.

He says
“Life can sometimes feel overwhelming, and we all need support, encouragement or simply someone to listen.

I’ve put together this short video to explain a little more about what I do and the areas where I may be able to help, including encouragement and positivity, personal growth, men’s support, community and connection, health and wellbeing, business and leadership, cancer and recovery, and faith-based support when requested.

My aim isn’t to have all the answers. It’s simply to walk alongside people, listen without judgement, and help them take their next step forward. If any part of this resonates with you, feel free to get in touch for a free 30-minute introductory conversation.”

what’s the betting the Next Step Forward for anyone who trusts him is into FLP?

He's even used the FLP email address as his contact.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how a man who is married to a man and therefore probably has incredibly limited experience of menopausal women can suddenly become an expert.

YouOKHun · 15/06/2026 17:00

Yes, you can track what’s going on in WW’s life by the audience-free output can’t you?

The latest video will be motivated by someone having got one over on him in some large or small way. For example, someone nipping into the parking place he had his eye on so he has to park his vegetable delivery van further down the road because he is TOO KIND to get there first. He spends some time ruminating over it all and rather than concluding that things that happen to him are a demonstration that life can be a bit shit sometimes or that he may have some responsibility for outcomes he decides that the difficulties in his life are because he is too kind (and others aren’t kind enough to him and fail to see how special he is)🙄

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YouOKHun · 15/06/2026 17:04

@dickiedavisthunderthighs well quite, Preacher is hardly the first port of call for menopause advice. I wonder if the menopause angle is a command from HQ. I think I’ve seen a similar graphic on another bot’s post very recently.

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Spongebobette · 15/06/2026 18:08

Yes menopause is clearly seen as a selling point for aloe gloop 🙄

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 15/06/2026 20:41

As someone who is very much at the sharp end of the menopause, I’d love 10 mins with Preacher. It may not even take 5.

Spongebobette · 15/06/2026 21:08

I’d pay cash money to watch that conversation

user1471446301 · 15/06/2026 21:20

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 15/06/2026 20:41

As someone who is very much at the sharp end of the menopause, I’d love 10 mins with Preacher. It may not even take 5.

ooo ooo ooo yes please pop on and do a live hun when you do! we can send stars and emoji's! That false prophet won't know whats hit him the grifting tosser.

notgettinganyyounger · 16/06/2026 22:06

Homeschool haa emerged from hiding. Went into hiding when the shit hit the fan on the Trading scams everyone was running. Now its all about how shes been spending quality time with her kids. Funny how all the huns say you can do all these mlm's as it gives you time freedom for family. Does it fuck. You have to be on social media morning noon and night from what I see.

ThisJadeBear · 17/06/2026 04:54

So last year a friend recommended someone to help with cleaning and a few household bits as I had some serious health stuff going on which is still ongoing. The lady herself was very friendly and chirpy and over the weeks got to know me quite well.
She has kept in touch here and there as she has a new job and knows I’m no way out of the woods.
Yesterday she sent me a promo video and said she’d love to have a chat with me about jumping onto her team…. Herbalife.
I wanted to say Maureen, as you well know, I don’t have the energy to jump on my own bed.
This is the third ‘friend’ to approach me with the same thing, one of whom I have known for nearly five decades. She knows I have a history of anorexia as well.
I have just got out of hospital for tests back in next week and I think… are these people tone deaf?
If I jumped on her team how do I then recruit a team?
I know they have to scroll around their contacts but I think it’s appalling.

Spongebobette · 17/06/2026 06:37

Urghhhh

all common sense, morals, ethics etc goes out the window when a friend becomes a bot

definitelynotabot · 17/06/2026 06:38

HL seem to be having a resurgence. Though round my way they are in disguise, as a weight loss/nutrition clinic. I had to dig to find out it was HL as all their social media activity conveniently forgets to mention it.

@ThisJadeBear I hope you are feeling better soon.

ThisJadeBear · 17/06/2026 08:47

definitelynotabot · 17/06/2026 06:38

HL seem to be having a resurgence. Though round my way they are in disguise, as a weight loss/nutrition clinic. I had to dig to find out it was HL as all their social media activity conveniently forgets to mention it.

@ThisJadeBear I hope you are feeling better soon.

These are all from the same nutrition clinic it looks like a sunbed shop. The woman who runs it kept messaging me to come in for a wellness check and I said well I have three hospital visits this week and she was trying to convince me that what she could do for me was next level.
I can see people do lost weight and join in. If that works, great.
But stop trying to recruit people.

WorthySloth · 17/06/2026 15:26

Just had an insta message from Rictus Grin asking if I want her to pop me a quick video about what she does.

I do not 🤣🤣

WorthySloth · 17/06/2026 15:29

Just looked down my grid… it’s mostly photos of beer and gigs I’ve gone to. Maybe she thinks I need extra cash for those things? I mean she’s not wrong but I can always pick up an extra shift at work and trouser £200 and still have 3 days off that week 🤣🤣 don’t think I’d get £200 from FL for 12 hours work do you?

Spongebobette · 17/06/2026 15:35

WorthySloth · 17/06/2026 15:26

Just had an insta message from Rictus Grin asking if I want her to pop me a quick video about what she does.

I do not 🤣🤣

You should ask for the video and note down all the false claims!

user1471446301 · 17/06/2026 16:39

WorthySloth · 17/06/2026 15:26

Just had an insta message from Rictus Grin asking if I want her to pop me a quick video about what she does.

I do not 🤣🤣

Please ask her why if she's on 30K a month she's doing a Temu Haul.

YouOKHun · 17/06/2026 17:23

@WorthySloth I’ve had the same from Rictus. She never actually sends a video. Since January when my FB persona requested the video on one of her posts (as she asked her followers to do) all I’ve had is messages saying it would be great to chat. She wants to introduce FLP and all the lies that go with it during a phone call. She’s been regularly checking in ever since. The last message was towards the end of May which said,

‘Hi YouOKHun, just checking you guys are well and to check that my messages are reaching yourself?’.

Dodgy grammar from “a successful HT”. I really wonder whether these bots are clinging onto the MLM raft because they were not up scratch and were deemed unemployable in the role they left. And who are “you guys”? There is only one of me (you’ll be relieved to know). Anyway, none of it is the behaviour of someone on £30k a month who doesn’t need to scrabble around.

I’ve ignored all messages but might respond with,

‘Hi Rictus, yes myself has been receiving yourself’s messages, all of them. But I find that every one of myselfs can’t really be arsed to respond to yourself’s bollocks. Where is the video yourself promised myself back in January? I want to know how I can earn £30k a month. Can we at least start with the video of how to earn £30 a month? Or is the reality that yourself has yet to reach those dizzying earning heights and yourself’s only commenter on FB, (yourself’s own mother), paid for yourself, that grinning fool you’re married to and Violet Elizabeth Bott to go to Disney and bore ourselves with a blow by blow account of your twee naffness? Don’t you think it’s a bit misleading (as well as boring)?’.

But I might just get blocked so I will just sit on myself’s hands and ignore.

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Spongebobette · 17/06/2026 17:29

lol

so there IS no video!???

this might be because she’s aware she cannot lie and make outrageous income claims in a video which is a permanent record

YouOKHun · 17/06/2026 18:28

@Spongebobette I think that’s exactly why she wants a phone call. There is nothing committed to paper/video beyond what’s on her feed - implied luxury and asking people if they’re satisfied with their sad little existences.

She keeps FLP very much under wraps so I guess she knows that it will be easier to gauge someone’s weak spots if she can get them alone and manoeuvre the conversation towards answering their particular needs and managing away an individual’s particular doubts. She can make sure they leave the call with nothing they can actually show someone who will raise objections.

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Spongebobette · 17/06/2026 20:05

The irony being that her lifestyle looks nightmarish and not enviable in the slightest

Spongebobette · 17/06/2026 21:00

What on earth is this utter shit?

BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …
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