BOTWATCH 91!!! Yes there have been that many threads! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And

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Welcome to the latest fred!

Don't forget $12 is the first tier of membership there is also $24 and $36 per month. The first tier gets you nothing the 2nd and 3rd tier get you more expensive nothing other than dangerous unqualified advice and an empty purse. I'm sure the ZZ is shilled in their too. Grifting predatory cow.

Fierce’s lengthy AI slop posts are so dreadful

Salon the 6 figure biznizz owner awash with cash getting called out trying to grift a drinks package for her 4 kids on a cruise (must be taking SS). Being cheap and only buying 2 passes for the kids so they can share.

Salon "I’m thinking of getting two and them sharing because it will be over 1k for juice and pop".

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there is no sharing and your sea pass has a picture of you so only the card that has the package on it can be used

When you get found out and kicked off the cruise halfway through, do you think the kids will cry, or will they disembark peacefully?

talking nonsense the worst than will happen is she will have to pay
they revoke it without a refund. Still a loss but not as bad as being kicked off.

@user1471446301 actually she says she is a seven figure earner! I can’t see Salon’s FB as of this morning so she has blocked a lot of people who commented on the Fizz page. She is desperate to contain the negative comments but hopefully she can’t and enough will appear about her history and present scam to get in the way.

It never ceases to amaze me how many people currently fall for these cons. But then if I had an SEN child at the moment and was facing a wait of up to 6yrs for an assessment through the NHS I may well be tempted. They are using the NHS logo to validate. I’m not sure whether this is entirely legal. As an NHS paid professional I know there are strict guidelines attached to using it.

The test is one used to detect rather than diagnose and is freely available. Unfortunately the NHS is currently an easy target.

lol 7 figures sorry what a disservice, not. I only ever fizz on my burner so I'm good. We can only hope more people are made aware and it reaches the wider SEN community. She did have 25 members in the stand, down to 21 now but tbf there was a 7 day free trial, but this is after 2 weeks so it's hardly a grift magnet (shades of yawn). I was tempted to join the trial but you still needed to provide bank details so it was a no from me.

I've just had a sponsored add pop up from Fierce advertising a free (for now it says) 3 day wealth class to start my abundance. She had trademarked the title and thought nah bet it's not registered but blow me it was but strangely it's registered to an address in Wirral Mersyside. (let's hope it's not Broke & Sexy Bums probation hostel).

I can find no other business registered to this address or an accountant so we need to find Lloyd Grossman to ask "who lives in a house like this". A quick look shows she could set up a business in Spain even if she doesn't have residency but that would mean she would need a foreigners tax number and alot more legal documentation which must be in Spanish. I just find it a bit dodgy.

She has been canny with the advert because what does abundance mean? how does she define it? And of course if it doesn't work and you don't step into wealth and freedom then you obviously don't deserve it.

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Just seen that uber is heading down to folly on the water. Obviously couldn’t rent it out for the Easter holidays 🤷‍♀️ best watch out as I’m wandering round Appledore over the next few days 😭😭

It's funny I just had a look on booking dot com and her listing includes free toiletries those must be the CC boosting variety. From the 8/4 all dates are available up to 31/12. I tried a few permutations and it a special Genius discount which I've never seen before of 15%, so times must be hard, oh dear, never mind.

Yawn’s posted a ton of ready made messages and social posts supplied to the ‘ambassadors’ which is textbook MLM tactics. People are wise to this shit now, they can spot an inauthentic post an absolute mile off. I’m astonished she’d even publicise this, she’s even more moronic than I’d given her credit for.

I suppose an unintended consequence of having no ability to reflect and an absolute refusal to accept anything less than positive adoration is that you miss the signs that the world has moved on and so has the level of cynicism about scams like Yawn’s. I think she truly believes that she is an innovator.

How long before the 5 ambassadors realise Yawn has nothing to offer them but desperate upline tactics and prepared statements, that the content is available for free and none of their friends are remotely interested? I think the wheels will come off the BuildHUNaPyramid by end of May.

One of Yawn’s problems (aside from it not being 2015 anymore) is that these five people are not currently being hypnotised by a big MLM and they all have other focusses (their own businesses). I think Yawn will find that the five ambassadors will vote with their feet when they realise how much of their time Yawn wants for no reward. Her audience will have already worked out she only has five ambassadors and it’s going to be pretty obvious that the numbers haven’t gone up. It’s hardly inspirational or aspirational is it?

Moronic definitely, also enabIed. I really get the sense that no one has ever said no to her and it turns out that’s a dangerous thing if it means she ploughs on with a shitshow while refusing to listen to anyone else. If only it was just her problem.

@Crwysmam my understanding is that if you are a provider and a private company there are strict guidelines (but not much of an eye kept on these things). I worked in the NHS and in private practice at the same time and I was not allowed to mention my current NHS status on my website or put the NHS logo on my website (a clinical role). They are heavily borrowing legitimacy from the NHS and being economical with the truth. Even the lariats they’re wearing smack of NHS staff. Imagine paying Yawn’s ambassador £2k only to discover you’re still at the back of the queue and not only will no GP accept the “diagnosis” but neither will any agency either. Unfortunately desperation makes people go ahead with something and override their own doubts.

Oh god... its straight out of the mlm guide books

So basically … “here are multiple ways to change your story to manipulate people into believing you and joining my scam” 🙄

Any of the five ambassadors with a hint of self awareness isn’t going to send friends a script penned by Yawn! Imagine taking instruction from Yawn about how to communicate effectively with other people. She is completely out of touch.

Urgh

not just giving them the script, also telling them when to post - it’s so MLM

Also, shouldn’t people be declaring they get a bonus/fee/payment if someone signs up with their link?

Actually she needs coaching herself, properly, people buy from natural sounding people who can provide actual facts about what they have done in business and how they did it - much as I don’t like to mention any other system (and I promise I’m not part of it -) I did do 5 months using ‘modern wealthy ‘ which is £70 a month - this did have a lot of great things about it, full examples of things people had built up using internet and social media and a whole raft of tech stuff too - plus lots of support - it was in a different league - I got what I needed out of it in about 5 months and stopped but yawn needs to realise there are people out there on a different level with regards to the business angle if people are serious.

I really do hope Techie wanders on to these threads. And I hope she has a get out clause in their business contracts. Even better that they have no contract at all. I suspect Yawn wouldn’t see the need for formal partnership contracts and it’s all been done on the back of a fag packet.
I don’t think it will be long before she experiences the full Yawn experience and becomes another exbff. She does seem to have a tech business running parallel to BaB, so may well be waiting to see if Yawns hairbrained scheme takes off. A lot of the IT content is cut and paste generic standard, so it probably hasn’t taken her long to set up. BaB may well be a hobby side hustle to her main income. I’ve not done a deep dive, and since she’s an IT tech it’s possible she doesn’t have a big presence online. She may well have a 9-5 job so BaBs success isn’t crucial.

In other news, all rockets are fake and space travel is a hoax according to Sleaze.

🙄🙄🙄🙄

Ok so another deep dive took me to Techies DH business which is a hybrid fitness/gaming platform that combines movement with online quests. It does involve a few of the usual suspect “professionals” but in principal it’s quite a novel idea linking movement recorded on Stravs with an online quest. Perfect if you are into gaming but need to move more.
The website doesn’t seem to have any reviews but it does seem to be a slightly more legitimate business than BaB with a start middle and end. You are benefitting from the process and cost wise it’s cheaper than a gym membership.
I suspect inspiration for it came during covid when travel was impossible so you couldn’t do your own “quests” but at least you couldn’t do your daily walk or run and transform it into an online experience.
I am going to see if there is any feedback.

techie and DH are ex FLP bots I believe?

So looking at the social media sites this is a fitness support site. Not much engagement but was only launched 8 months ago. But seems like it was fully functioningat its launch, no slow drip feed , making it up as you go along. It is in direct competition with the fitness coaching Yawn is currently working on. But the IT design is already in place so I would think that Techie was able to copy and paste, saving a huge amount of time on Yawns fitness project. I do wonder if this is a conflict of interest. They too have diet and nutrition info with recipes.

But it does seem like a fairly straight forward business plan. There are hints of Yawns expert business coaching input, affiliate scheme. But on the whole it is a business with a usable product. There is a monthly fee that allows access to everything. Not sure it would appeal to a big market but may be useful getting gaming preteens out of their bedrooms, similar to the Pokamon craze a few years ago. My son and his friends still log in occasionally when walking around cities, you never really lose the inner geek.

It’s obvious from their tec work that they have a bigger skillset than Yawn, not difficult. I would imagine that it’s difficult to shrug off the MLM mindset when you’ve been brainwashed by the glitz and glamour of success days. I am always astonished by just how many people around us are not capable of critical thinking but that’s why MLM is so successful.

Even the best of us still look for an easy buck and secretly hope that “this time next year we’ll be millionaires”. Unless you win the lottery or are happy to break the law becoming a millionaire takes hard graft and the odd lucky break.