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BOTWATCH 91!!! Yes there have been that many threads! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And

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Spongebobette · 07/02/2026 18:00

Welcome to the latest fred!

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notgettinganyyounger · 24/04/2026 07:22

Did we know homeschool is on the copy trading bolleaux? Or maybe im behind on that one.

Spongebobette · 24/04/2026 07:46

Weird Willy has posted again

Air of desperation as he invites anyone and everyone to join his group for a ‘conversation’ about coaching

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user1471446301 · 24/04/2026 12:37

notgettinganyyounger · 24/04/2026 07:22

Did we know homeschool is on the copy trading bolleaux? Or maybe im behind on that one.

Got to have multiple streams of grift don't ya know.

Spongebobette · 24/04/2026 15:18

I don’t even know what that is

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definitelynotabot · 24/04/2026 20:53

Would you believe - the comment is still there on Bloodsucker 's post . I just hope lots of people have seen it now.

user1471446301 · 24/04/2026 21:05

definitelynotabot · 24/04/2026 20:53

Would you believe - the comment is still there on Bloodsucker 's post . I just hope lots of people have seen it now.

yes, I can't believe it! It's real shame I'm blocked by all the other top bots and Forever Living UK Pages or else I would have gone on a spree.

Mind you for a tippity toppity bot bloodsucker has only got 85 likes and 9 comments on that post (3 from botwatchers), so I'm not hopeful it's received too much exposure.

benten54 · 24/04/2026 21:46

user1471446301 · 24/04/2026 21:05

yes, I can't believe it! It's real shame I'm blocked by all the other top bots and Forever Living UK Pages or else I would have gone on a spree.

Mind you for a tippity toppity bot bloodsucker has only got 85 likes and 9 comments on that post (3 from botwatchers), so I'm not hopeful it's received too much exposure.

Also I had to change the post to see ‘all comments’ from ‘most relevant’ to see it. Interesting how ‘most relevant’ comments are the sycophantic mewing ones including a picture of a rose….🫤

user1471446301 · 25/04/2026 20:52

Headband has gone full Sue Pollard and what the helly with the FL Trainers. Some poor sods have paid 65 quid for a lovely wellness retreat and Headband is going to be giving a talk! One of the activities is Sound Healing, let's hope this is scheduled after Headbands talk.

YouOKHun · 25/04/2026 21:13

I was just typing about Headband and her flappy pigeon plimsolls, especially designed for running away from reality @user1471446301!

As for her day at the wellness retreat. She spent yet another Saturday grifting away. She had to drive c60 miles round trip on her own dollar. She gave her time for free and had to supply little cups of jizz. She sold three bottles (what ends up in her back pocket - c.£10 a bottle??). There was lots of interest apparently, which I take to be lots of polite nods from bemused people trapped in the room, who have absolutely no intention of returning Headband’s calls later. Some were not vigilant enough and she got fifteen new contacts who will probably need to change their names by deed poll and move into a safe house to keep her at bay.

Another day that has cost her more more than it has generated AND a dose of Athlete’s Foot thanks to the plastic Flappy Pigeon footwear.

user1471446301 · 25/04/2026 21:29

YouOKHun · 25/04/2026 21:13

I was just typing about Headband and her flappy pigeon plimsolls, especially designed for running away from reality @user1471446301!

As for her day at the wellness retreat. She spent yet another Saturday grifting away. She had to drive c60 miles round trip on her own dollar. She gave her time for free and had to supply little cups of jizz. She sold three bottles (what ends up in her back pocket - c.£10 a bottle??). There was lots of interest apparently, which I take to be lots of polite nods from bemused people trapped in the room, who have absolutely no intention of returning Headband’s calls later. Some were not vigilant enough and she got fifteen new contacts who will probably need to change their names by deed poll and move into a safe house to keep her at bay.

Another day that has cost her more more than it has generated AND a dose of Athlete’s Foot thanks to the plastic Flappy Pigeon footwear.

Ha Ha you've summed that up perfectly and Pigeon Plimsoles! lol. That's 2 full days now this week she's been 'on the road' for nil return.

Myusername2015 · 26/04/2026 10:52

user1471446301 · 25/04/2026 21:29

Ha Ha you've summed that up perfectly and Pigeon Plimsoles! lol. That's 2 full days now this week she's been 'on the road' for nil return.

Can I have a clue for headband?

benten54 · 26/04/2026 11:36

Myusername2015 · 26/04/2026 10:52

Can I have a clue for headband?

First name Kate Middletons sister. Long version
second name ‘Changing of the…..’

Wintersgirl · 26/04/2026 12:09

Oh no, Yawn's cat has died, so sad I love cats....

Crikeyalmighty · 26/04/2026 19:06

user1471446301 · 25/04/2026 20:52

Headband has gone full Sue Pollard and what the helly with the FL Trainers. Some poor sods have paid 65 quid for a lovely wellness retreat and Headband is going to be giving a talk! One of the activities is Sound Healing, let's hope this is scheduled after Headbands talk.

Ha I love this - looked her up, yep def touches of the su pollard aren’t I zany!

Spongebobette · 26/04/2026 19:12

Wintersgirl · 26/04/2026 12:09

Oh no, Yawn's cat has died, so sad I love cats....

The most interesting thing about Yawn’s cat dying is that Yawn is a grifting exploitative ex MLM bot and hasn’t changed her spots

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Contraryjane · 26/04/2026 22:38

I’m banned from Yawn’s fb. How is she exploiting the death of her poor cat?

xenu1 · 27/04/2026 08:33

Hi Huns!

Occasional poster here again (still working hard to build my Timeless Vie business :))

Great news from the US - I wonder if any of the UK FL posters have mentioned this in their daly FB messages :)

Hat tip: quackwatch.org

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2026/04/ftc-order-prohibit-forever-living-its-operators-deceiving-consumers-about-potential-earnings

Forever Living prohibited from making deceptive claims of multilevel marketing earnings. The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has announced that operators of multilevel marketing (MLM) company Forever Living will be permanently prohibited from deceiving potential distributors to believe they could earn profits when the vast majority of participants made little or no money. The FTC alleged in its complaint (64-page PDF) that Forever Living Products International LLC, its CEO Gregg Maughan, and its President Aidan O’Hare, as well as Forever Living.com LLC used deceptive earnings claims to attract new participants called Forever Business Owners (FBOs), most of whom made no money or even lost money. Other allegations included:

  • Forever Living claimed participants could make money by selling health and wellness products either in person or online through the company’s website and by recruiting new participants who would do the same.
  • Through in-person meetings and conferences, internet and social media posts and videos, and print materials, Forever Living used images of luxury cars and giant checks, and claims of profits ranging from extra income to replacing a full-time job to tout the potential earnings from selling its products or recruiting new FBOs.
  • According to company data, in each of the last five years at least 77% of FBOs who purchased, sold or recruited during the year did not receive any compensation.
  • Even after two full years as FBOs, more than 89% of new participants had not received enough income to recoup their initial $300-plus start-up cost.
  • For years, the company’s public income disclosure statements falsely implied that everyone who had chosen to pursue the MLM income opportunity was making money, and that others who “joined” only wished to purchase products “at a discounted price” and had “elected not to participate in [the] Marketing Plan.”
  • Forever Living knew that nearly 90% of FBOs had received no income through the company and it had no basis for suggesting they were not trying to make money.
  • Training materials encourage FBOs to tout Forever Living as a flexible way to earn extra money in order to recruit new participants.
  • Forever Living misled FBOs with claims that they are likely to earn money based on purchases or sales made by FBOs they recruit, known as their “downline,” when the company’s data shows that less than 7% of FBOs received income from the sales and purchases made by their downline FBOs.
Under the proposed order settling the FTC’s allegations, the defendants must:
  • have substantiation for any earnings claims and must provide substantiation for any earnings claim they make if a U.S. consumer requests it
  • not misrepresent that participants have made, will or are likely to make or receive earnings (or any particular amount of earnings)
  • not misrepresent the reasons participants do not make money in Forever’s MLM, including claims that participants who do not make money aren’t trying to
  • not misrepresent that participants are likely to recruit others into their downline
  • not misrepresent other facts about the MLM opportunity that would be important to consumers.
FTC order to prohibit Forever Living and its operators from deceiving consumers about potential earnings. FTC press release, April 14, 2026] Truth In Advertising has archived examples of Forever Living’s deceptive promotional efforts. It notes: The FTC’s crackdown on Forever Living’s deceptive earnings claims follows a three-year investigation that commenced shortly after TINA.org sent a detailed complaint to the agency in the spring of 2022 outlining more than 5,500 inappropriate income claims. TINA.org’s complaint is referenced in the FTC’s lawsuit. FTC cracks down on Forever Living following years of deception. Truth In Advertising, April 15, 2026]

FTC Order to Prohibit Forever Living and its Operators from Deceiving Consumers about Potential Earnings

Operators of multilevel marketing (MLM) company Forever Living will be permanently prohibited from making deceptive earnings claims to resolve Federal Trade Commission allegations that the company

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2026/04/ftc-order-prohibit-forever-living-its-operators-deceiving-consumers-about-potential-earnings

Spongebobette · 27/04/2026 10:37

That’s fantastic

hopefully the UK equivalent body will get stuck in now

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user1471446301 · 27/04/2026 10:38

xenu1 · 27/04/2026 08:33

Hi Huns!

Occasional poster here again (still working hard to build my Timeless Vie business :))

Great news from the US - I wonder if any of the UK FL posters have mentioned this in their daly FB messages :)

Hat tip: quackwatch.org

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2026/04/ftc-order-prohibit-forever-living-its-operators-deceiving-consumers-about-potential-earnings

Forever Living prohibited from making deceptive claims of multilevel marketing earnings. The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has announced that operators of multilevel marketing (MLM) company Forever Living will be permanently prohibited from deceiving potential distributors to believe they could earn profits when the vast majority of participants made little or no money. The FTC alleged in its complaint (64-page PDF) that Forever Living Products International LLC, its CEO Gregg Maughan, and its President Aidan O’Hare, as well as Forever Living.com LLC used deceptive earnings claims to attract new participants called Forever Business Owners (FBOs), most of whom made no money or even lost money. Other allegations included:

  • Forever Living claimed participants could make money by selling health and wellness products either in person or online through the company’s website and by recruiting new participants who would do the same.
  • Through in-person meetings and conferences, internet and social media posts and videos, and print materials, Forever Living used images of luxury cars and giant checks, and claims of profits ranging from extra income to replacing a full-time job to tout the potential earnings from selling its products or recruiting new FBOs.
  • According to company data, in each of the last five years at least 77% of FBOs who purchased, sold or recruited during the year did not receive any compensation.
  • Even after two full years as FBOs, more than 89% of new participants had not received enough income to recoup their initial $300-plus start-up cost.
  • For years, the company’s public income disclosure statements falsely implied that everyone who had chosen to pursue the MLM income opportunity was making money, and that others who “joined” only wished to purchase products “at a discounted price” and had “elected not to participate in [the] Marketing Plan.”
  • Forever Living knew that nearly 90% of FBOs had received no income through the company and it had no basis for suggesting they were not trying to make money.
  • Training materials encourage FBOs to tout Forever Living as a flexible way to earn extra money in order to recruit new participants.
  • Forever Living misled FBOs with claims that they are likely to earn money based on purchases or sales made by FBOs they recruit, known as their “downline,” when the company’s data shows that less than 7% of FBOs received income from the sales and purchases made by their downline FBOs.
Under the proposed order settling the FTC’s allegations, the defendants must:
  • have substantiation for any earnings claims and must provide substantiation for any earnings claim they make if a U.S. consumer requests it
  • not misrepresent that participants have made, will or are likely to make or receive earnings (or any particular amount of earnings)
  • not misrepresent the reasons participants do not make money in Forever’s MLM, including claims that participants who do not make money aren’t trying to
  • not misrepresent that participants are likely to recruit others into their downline
  • not misrepresent other facts about the MLM opportunity that would be important to consumers.
FTC order to prohibit Forever Living and its operators from deceiving consumers about potential earnings. FTC press release, April 14, 2026] Truth In Advertising has archived examples of Forever Living’s deceptive promotional efforts. It notes: The FTC’s crackdown on Forever Living’s deceptive earnings claims follows a three-year investigation that commenced shortly after TINA.org sent a detailed complaint to the agency in the spring of 2022 outlining more than 5,500 inappropriate income claims. TINA.org’s complaint is referenced in the FTC’s lawsuit. FTC cracks down on Forever Living following years of deception. Truth In Advertising, April 15, 2026]

Yes, we were aware thank you, but it's great this news is still trickling through and a bonus if people search for info and happen across this thread. Fingers crossed it's the beginning of the end for FL Worldwide.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 27/04/2026 15:34

@xenu1 Great to see you, hope you've managed to maintain Flappy Pigeon status hunni!

Yep, we've been all over this, FL elected to withdraw from MLM altogether in the US as a result of this; clearly can't trust themselves or their bizniz owners not to immediately contravene it. As @user1471446301 says, we're all praying for the knock-on effect to happen sooner rather than later.
It can't come soon enough for Headband/Su Pollard who must have said 'gut health' about 50 times in yesterday's 5 min video.

user1471446301 · 27/04/2026 15:59

Bloodsucker has posted another one of her trite shite posts on her bicycle. I've provided some interaction on her post for her, fell short of giving her a like. Probs will get blocked this time but hey ho other facebook accounts are available.

This is all well and good though until your wheels fall off. The following link is from the FTC Federal Trade Commission and confirms Forever Living will be permanently prohibited from making deceptive earnings claims to resolve Federal Trade Commission allegations that the company deceived consumers that they could earn profits from the venture when the vast majority of participants made little or no money. Have you made sure your downline are aware Forever US have withdrawn from MLM? And Gregg Maughan and Aidan O'Hare signed and confirmed "We reached an agreement with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), the nation’s
consumer protection agency, to settle charges that we broke the law by making claims
about how much money Forever Living participants could earn without the required
proof, and by instructing Forever Living participants to do the same". https://www.ftc.gov/legal-library/browse/cases-proceedings/forever-living-products-international-llc-et-al-ftc-v

Forever Living Products International, LLC, et al., FTC v.

Forever Living will be permanently prohibited from making deceptive earnings claims to resolve Federal Trade Commission allegations that the company deceived consumers that they could earn profits from the venture when the vast majority of participants...

https://www.ftc.gov/legal-library/browse/cases-proceedings/forever-living-products-international-llc-et-al-ftc-v

ItWasnaMeGuv · 27/04/2026 16:34

definitelynotabot · 24/04/2026 20:53

Would you believe - the comment is still there on Bloodsucker 's post . I just hope lots of people have seen it now.

Can you post the comment here, or at least the gist of it. I can't access her stuff, sadly.

user1471446301 · 27/04/2026 16:37

ItWasnaMeGuv · 27/04/2026 16:34

Can you post the comment here, or at least the gist of it. I can't access her stuff, sadly.

This is what I posted 4 days ago which still hasn't been deleted.

Is this the wise word salad directed to Gregg Maughan and Aiden O'Hare who signed the agreement below? Or those US FBO's who have lost their pointy business?
https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/ForeverLiving-StipulatedOrder.pdf
We reached an agreement with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), the nation’s consumer protection agency, to settle charges that we broke the law by making claims about how much money Forever Living participants could earn without the required proof, and by instructing Forever Living participants to do the same.

https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/ForeverLiving-StipulatedOrder.pdf

Spongebobette · 27/04/2026 17:04

It’s annoying you have to toggle to ‘all comments to see it’

i note that other comments are from Nigeria-based bots.

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user1471446301 · 27/04/2026 17:56

Spongebobette · 27/04/2026 17:04

It’s annoying you have to toggle to ‘all comments to see it’

i note that other comments are from Nigeria-based bots.

Yes, the poor "top fan" African women. I scrolled down on one ladies profile and she is stood accosting cars at what looks like a check point or border control so they are queued and can't get away, it's a far cry from Bloodsuckers standard of living. That is why I thought I'd include the bit about FL withdrawing MLM in the US in the off chance they might read the comments and catch the whiff of desertion rather than a whiff gentlemen's pride.

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