BOTWATCH 91!!! Yes there have been that many threads! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And

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Welcome to the latest fred!

ooh new thread

I thought I’d list some different links for those coming across this thread and wondering why MLM/network marketing is so problematic.

Why you should question what the MLM rep posts on social media: https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/proof-that-mlm-reps-lie-in-an-attempt-to-sell/
Why you should question what MLMs tell you: https://mlmtruth.org/2020/07/08/top-5-mlm-paradoxes/
Join an MLM and say goodbye to your money: https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/from-hope-to-harm-five-reasons-why-mlms-can-cause-financial-loss/
Why did you leave your MLM? https://mlmtruth.org/2020/06/18/breaking-up-with-your-mlm/
MLM related grift du jour - Coaching the coaches to coach other coaches: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-09/experts-warn-about-uncertifed-nlp-life-coaches/104685266

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N-n-n-n-n-n-Ninety One!! Thanks for the new thread.

Homes Under the Scammer was fascinating viewing. Aren’t filters amazing? Did anyone else think Castle looked uncomfortable when she was asked what her other business was? It came as no surprise that the Castles failed to do their due diligence (again … ) by not viewing the property before they bought it. At least a mouldy floor is easier and less expensive to repair than a mouldy thatch: Yawn will be grey with envy.

Yes! I thought Castle looked uncomfortable too @HotAsSatansBalls. Perhaps she is only really comfortable in front of a certain gullible audience and as soon as she explains what she does to a non-bot audience she can probably sense the scepticism. People outside the family can be dangerously inclined to say, ‘sorry, I don’t really get that, what is it you said you actually do?’ and ‘oh really? That’s what you used to do, but isn’t that a pyramid scheme?’. Or perhaps some of her old victims could be watching or her own scammer - it’s not safe out there in the real world for a grifter like Castle.

The Castles were pretty lucky that they didn’t discover many more problems with their impulse buy. What happened to Castle’s excitement about choosing fixtures and fittings? My guess is it cost them much more than they owned up to and they just had to bung in the cheapest of the cheap and get someone in it to pay £900 to get electrocuted every time they step on those carpets. If only Castle could have sprinkled some of her eight figure earnings on it.

Yawn can only dream of such a decluttered space with a brand new bot potty.

Its ok though as yawn is strutting around the mouldy thatch in what l can only describe as the most hideous fashion choice to date!! A full length denim coat is not it!!! Where does she acquire the clothes she buys as her taste is unique for sure. Who needs a new roof when you have a wooly hat and sunglasses to wear INSIDE your mouldy abode.

Thanks, @YouOKHun . It is valuable to be reminded why we are still following these threads after so many years. We have come a long way in the UK with the power of MLM diminishing over time. It is particularly enjoyable to see previous powerful companies come to grief and I am here for it! [popcorn emoji] .

Quick question re HUTH. Is it Friday's episode? That one isn't available to watch yet.

It was Thursday’s episode @ItWasnaMeGuv Series 27: A Marriage of Old and New

Yes, it was Friday's episode, not sure if it's been shown before, or if it was its first airing.

Quite amazing that you can manage to do all that work within budget, even when you discover you need to replace all the rotten floorboards!

Of course it helps when your father in law is a shop fitter and worked full time for free on the project ( he sorted out all the trades too)
It looks like Mr C was just a labourer and C herself did nothing except turn up thinking she looked glam in beige

Fierce having to get a German Shepherd for security probably 🤣 the ripped off hoards must be getting out of control.

According to the info on iPlayer it was first aired in April 2025! Surprised they didn't make anything of it at the time.

It did not look particularly glamorous really so I’m not surprised Castle did not turn up for the ‘reveal’ or promote it on her socials

Perhaps Castle kept quiet in case her followers questioned why a self-proclaimed seven-figure earner, such as Castle, would want to renovate run-down properties to rent instead of using her wealth to buy land for luxury new builds, or living off the huge interest generated by investing part of her seven-figure salary? The mind boggles …

Yawn's butchered those lovely old beams with Frenchit again. She's not doing her "we're in the middle of nowhere" narrative a lot of good with the photos showing at least three other houses through the window either.

And the ‘two women dancing with the curtains drawn and disco lights’ is beyond hilarious

Where is the happy 6th birthday Banner? Are they high on Panda Pops and Iced Gems?

A quick search on Youtube gives some very clear professional Clubbercisce classes without any mention of "luminous tits" for free. Why would anyone part with a penny for this pair of goons, utterly bizarre.

I’m rather late to this subjects on Mumsnet but watched this episode. What MLM is she from - she said something about entrepreneurs?! Or are we not allowed to say on here.

But whatever it is - well yes. Why the need to do up a house!

Forever Living

then moved into business coaching

Thanks. Does FL even exist anymore?

ah so selling courses about selling courses? I did think it was funny she said he did an online course about buying a house

@fashionqueen0123Selling courses about selling courses is absolutely right, with the occasional joint venture with other dodgy coaches/gurus and occasionally with someone who is a bigger and better scammer than she is.

FLP UK does still exist but is a shadow of its former self even though it tries to pretend otherwise.

Arrrgggh I’ve a lovely friend gone into full Tropic BOT. It’s relentless
No I don’t want to sign up to get products at a discount STOP GOING ON ABOUT IT 😫

Welcome @fashionqueen0123! Forever Living is not quite dead: it stinks like a corpse and is still slightly warm and twitching. Castle known by this nickname because she lied about how her earnings from Forever Living had enabled her to buy one. Unfortunately for her, someone on these threads discovered she was renting it by ringing up the estate agents where the folly (as it really was) was listed. It had been featured on Grand Designs.

Where is this?!?!