BOTWATCH 91!!! Yes there have been that many threads! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And

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@dickiedavisthunderthighs that is very similar in tone and content isn’t it?

When the Unlucky Club first appeared it seemed to be lifted straight from an Australian coach’s site. The colour and typeface and the LG Academy name were exactly the same. I can’t find that coach now but I expect they all have a short life expectancy. Others definitely got there first in terms of the BuildHUN name. I did wonder if the word “Brand” had suddenly been removed by Yawn after Build* Brand spotted her competing with their longer established social media and website of the same name.

whether Yawn sees these things and plucks them from her sub conscience believing they’re her own ideas or whether she decides to help herself, I’m not quite sure but I expect it’s the latter.

The Australian coach seems to have deleted her insta account

I said she'd ripped of the Australian woman ages ago

I wonder how Uber is doing at the school gate currently. I bet most of the mums scatter as she approaches. I think most people in Yawnsville are familiar with FLP and its tactics. One of the original bots was heavily involved in FLP when her children were at the same school. She extracated herself from MLM when the easy money dried up. Her DH gave up a successful business but then slunk back when it was all over for them.
My DS has left school now so I no longer have any sources of information. The parent What’s App can be brutal if you ruffle too many feathers though.

I always think the same about Rictus. I bet most people belt off as soon as they see a flash of her pearly whites. As penance on Good Friday I went to look at her child’s birthday posts. There are no words. I see that child wanted a caviar party with her family as well; but no photos of child eating said caviar, just Rictus and that awful husband.

Rictus will be on the C9 and FAT15 again after all the Easter shit found stuffed in her caravan. She is very a very unlikeable person.

so Yawn went to a beach yesterday - at least a 2.5 hour drive each way for a bit of ‘look at me on the beach’ content

I see the house horse had a natty neckerchief as well.

Wonder how the effluent-cer training call went last night. I love how she's trotting out the word 'recognition' which only means something to ex-bots.

I remember coming across that use of ‘recognition’ when I was learning about MLMs - the person on FB I knew who suddenly starting posting out of character language such as ‘sack the boss’ and ‘this is my WHY’ - she put something like ‘I never get recognised in my J O B’
And I thought how weird it sounded - why weren’t her colleagues recognising her??? 🤣

And then I saw that she meant walking across a stage in a sash or her photo appearing in an upline’s post with ‘putting plans in place for this pocket rocket’

🤢

Yawn has named the five Ambassadors (the real victims not the beige AI fabulous ladies) and there are two FLP bots, another who has recommended FLP so might be a bot or ex bot but I’m not sure. One who is a mystery but may have been a former Arbonne bot. So it seems those four will all be familiar with the instant recognition of nothing and fictional ranks.

Lastly, there is an extremely iffy parenting coach, as mentioned upthread, offering ADHD and ASD assessments using, she says, some of the clinical measures. She says “we assess” but unless there is a suitably qualified clinical psyche or very specifically trained clinician or psychiatrist doing the assessments she is on shaky ground, especially as she is charging the same as qualified person. No hint of her qualifications but if she is a paid up member of Yawn’s scam then I think it’s safe to say her judgement is lacking. Or perhaps she is President of the Royal College of Psychiatrists and is playing it down in favour of her quartz ambassador status 🙄?

Anyway, looks like the usual victims. I don’t fancy their chances of recruiting all their friends into Yawn’s scam. How long do we give Yawn’s pyramid scheme? I expect it to peter out during May and be completely killed off by the school holidays in July when most of these hobby jobs and attending Lives is set aside and then forgotten about by September.

One of her claims last week was that anyone who was a paid-up member of BaB was an automatic ambassador, so she's just unveiled the five paying members. I know there was the craft-y person who commented on one of Techie's posts the other day that her subscription was "on pause" so I reckon this is it. That means she's got 18-odd family/mum/hangers on in the private FB groups. Does this sound about right to you @Slw1984 ?

Let’s take about:blank Builda Body as an example — but the same will apply for the buildabrand group

In BA BODY, there’s Yawn, Techy, Yawns mum, and Mr Yawn, There are 21 members in total (someone left last week ) which means that around 17 people are actually paying to be in that group.

You can’t access the Facebook groups unless you’re paying a monthly subscription — that’s an important point.

So when she says they are “automatically ambassadors,” what she really means is that they’re already paying members. Because they’re paying for their subscription, if they start referring people using her links for the ponzi scam scheme, they can then earn money from anyone who signs up.

That could be through BuildaBody, Builda Soul , or BuildaBrand.

So essentially, she’s saying they’re considered “ambassadors” because they’re already inside the system and paying.

The five women she posted about are already paying to be in those groups. She’s presenting them as paid ambassadors, but in reality, they’re just paying members who have shared the link.

They’re the only five who’ve actually posted the links which is why she highlighted and recognised them.

Does that make sense?
She’s shutting the fb groups down and moving across to WhatsApp so essentially she can tell the paying members that their are people using the “app” that don’t want to be in the what’s app groups and she can lie to the public about how many people are in the groups because it’s all on techies stats , no one else can find out, the people using the website (sorry… app 🤣) won’t be able to see traffic or other people who are signed up ( or who aren’t )
So In a months time she can try to create excitement and fomo by just lying to the public ( nothing different )

Does anyone have any info or can point me in the direction of what percentage Forever Living USA Sales or Turnover is per annum compared to other countries around the world? Like a table of global revenue for FL? I've been told a certain percentage for the US and can't for the life of me fathom that it's true and would certainly explain their current woes. Thank you.

I meant to say global revenue by country.

Something was mentioned by a prominent network marketer in another company who did a FB post about it. (He's on a horse)
Initials JA - can be found in a Google search (He's on a horse) - but he gives an indication as to what may have been occurring in the US - he doesn't pull his punches - being a former FLP man himself. Seems to know what he's talking about in that world!

got him thanks will watch his vid.

I’ve just watched that video @thebottingrambler and I am sure there is some truth in a family falling out (or a desperate family-wide covering of tracks restructuring), but I couldn’t get away from the fact he’s a man-hun telling his audience that his company is doing well and distributors in Forever anywhere in the world should be nervous (true) and find themselves another company. This is a classic sweep for recruits from FLP so I’m not sure I trust him, though I am sure he hears the rumours within the “profession” as he calls it.

Despite what he says about Trump being pro MLM and it currently being the best environment ever for MLM, I don’t think that can be true and I get the sense there is plenty of difficulty for MLM and more scrutiny than ever. I still think the root of it is FLP being a repeat offender and members of the family not wanting to be implicated when the FTC wants to know about how they’ve been operating since the King of ManHuns shuffled off this mortal coil. Perhaps it’s both reasons and more will come to light about that shifty family?

Clue for horse riding man bot?

In google search F L P Ends its Network Marketing Model in the USA!

Ah thanks

‘profession’ my arse 😡

The blokes a grade A grifter and using his 'platform' to recruit.

He says sales are flat but North America USA and Canada ranked 6th in the top 10 performing countries in 2025. I think for such a massive shift in their business model some serious shit was or is about to go down. Maybe some investigation where it was found their recruitment to sales ratio was so skewed they had gone triangular.

Anyone seen that the Fizz page has upset Salon by pointing out the obvious issues with her SEN support grift which is trying to look like a public service? Her partner in crime has threatened legal action though I don’t know what for. ZZ is flagging so what better new blood than a vulnerable parent tearing their hair out trying to manage an educational need and/or a complicated and lengthy process. By having experience with just one child Salon thinks she knows it all.

The idea is that they pay Salon and per partner £12 a month just for access. No doubt more money will be required in order to be on the receiving end of duff advice that derails progress. Then there is her understanding privacy having used her DD’s experience as content - what will she do with other children’s information? Then there will be the money that has to be handed over for the nutritional supplements that will make all the difference.

I hope this particular scam ends up biting her hard on the arse.

Did a bit of a deep dive into the “company “ she works for. The only qualified person is a mental health nurse who has a long list of failed pseudo businesses he has been associated with. They are carefull to say the assessments they carry out ( pretty much the tick box one you find all over the internet currently) may suggest ADHD/ASD characteristics that would indicate they need further assessment for diagnosis. They charge £2000 to tell you that you may need formal psychiatric lead assessment. They are trained to supervise the assessment, but not to interpret results. They do pop ups all over the country probably in hotel rooms.

@Crwysmam yes I did the same. Their clinical director is a man who has simply started lots of training companies, no clinical training but is a former NHS employee and “registered qualified test user” but "test user" is a certification for administering psychometric tests and that is very different from being a Clinical Psychologist registered with the Health and Care Professions Council!

I can’t see anything on their website warning potential customers that their assessment is not a diagnosis by a train clinician as required in the NICE guidelines and therefore won’t be accepted by any GP and their customers would have to pay again for a diagnosis. It’s highly misleading. They are on the CQC website as a provider but haven’t had any inspection of what they’re doing so it’s a bit meaningless.

Honestly, not only is Yawn a grifter in her own right but her “vibe attracts her tribe” of other chancers.