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BOTWATCH 91!!! Yes there have been that many threads! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And

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Spongebobette · 07/02/2026 18:00

Welcome to the latest fred!

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MrsDilligaf · 02/04/2026 17:45

oh look!

BOTWATCH 91!!! Yes there have been that many threads! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And
YouOKHun · 02/04/2026 17:54

@dickiedavisthunderthighs ASA level bollocks is right. It’s as if she went onto their MLM section and did exact what they say should not be implied or stated. I hope someone will report it as the ASAis very much on the case of the online coaching industry and the wellness world at the moment, often marking the cards of less blatant cons than Yawn’s rather 2017 style offering.

user1471446301 · 02/04/2026 18:20

I've just watched Yawn's video on the buildabear page. All the reasons she is listing, groceries covered, less financial stress, paying off debt, savings, financial breathing space and sleeping calmly at night all apply to her. She doesn't sound relatable or passionate she just sounds desperate.

The power of 5 and crystal power positions which morph into Gem power positions are so scummy MLMmmy which sadly shows her business knowledge is just stunted at FL. A good cut off for Techie must be the invisibility workshop (if it goes ahead), hopefully she can see nothing is working, no cash is incoming and no amount of squatting in a field or hiding behind an old pub table will help.
Techie channel your inner forest and run run run.

Spongebobette · 02/04/2026 18:26

user1471446301 · 02/04/2026 18:20

I've just watched Yawn's video on the buildabear page. All the reasons she is listing, groceries covered, less financial stress, paying off debt, savings, financial breathing space and sleeping calmly at night all apply to her. She doesn't sound relatable or passionate she just sounds desperate.

The power of 5 and crystal power positions which morph into Gem power positions are so scummy MLMmmy which sadly shows her business knowledge is just stunted at FL. A good cut off for Techie must be the invisibility workshop (if it goes ahead), hopefully she can see nothing is working, no cash is incoming and no amount of squatting in a field or hiding behind an old pub table will help.
Techie channel your inner forest and run run run.

All the reasons she gives are the exact same reasons that MLMs use to hook in new recruits.
It’s all she knows, she is stuck in MLM thinking

all that missing is a ‘who do I know list’ and a ‘what’s my WHY’

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Crikeyalmighty · 02/04/2026 20:38

MrsDilligaf · 02/04/2026 17:45

oh look!

Well that interesting as it says it’s illegal- how come so many mlms get away with it then??

HotAsSatansBalls · 02/04/2026 20:52

MLMs get away with it by hiding the pyramid behind the sale of products like aloe juice, low-quality makeup, yazoo and false promises @Crikeyalmighty 😉 Yawn’s offering stinks of MLM and Eau de Ponzi.

definitelynotabot · 03/04/2026 09:05

I do wonder if this will be the excuse FL have been waiting for to boot Yawn out. I am sure what she is now doing will be breaking their Ts and Cs.

Spongebobette · 03/04/2026 13:36

Homeschool was booted out for getting involved in another MLM I seem to remember? But the rules might have changed subsequently

this is not an official MLM though, it’s just a slide deck and an app, so perhaps not seen as a conflict of interest

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Justdancevance · 03/04/2026 17:35

I see castle is posting a picture of her son naked in the bath on an open Facebook page so we can all see his chicken pox.

Anything for clicks

YouOKHun · 03/04/2026 19:04

@Justdancevance she is awful. We shouldn’t be seeing anything of these bot children but they just don’t care do they? We know these bots are often aware of the risks of sharing images and information about their children because they get tackled about it but don’t change their behaviour. All they do is label the polite feedback as “haterz” and then double down on the images.

As for Castle, I’m still not over her sharing a video on her public Facebook of the oldest Turret on the loo. He looked so embarrassed but eager to please and smile along, but unsure and clearly not at all happy. She deserves to get some very angry pushback from a large teenager one day but he doesn’t deserve to end up being that seething young person. She is a stupid, self-serving, entirely selfish woman. So is Headband, Rictus Grin bot and Uber - putting their bizniz before their children’s privacy and safety.

OhMyGiddyAunt · 03/04/2026 19:27

It's also the personal details and struggles of their children that gets posted about too, which is incredibly concerning.

Both Roomie and Uber have posted about their daughters eating disorders in the past which is so wrong! Salon is also widely documenting her daughters current mental health issues.

With the eating disorders I find myself wondering how much seeing their mothers do endless cleanses/weightloss claims/popping "fat blockers" has to do with it.

Tractor bot has 3 daughters and, in my opinion, is setting them up to be overly concerned and invested in weight/appearance/Insta "perfection"

user1471446301 · 03/04/2026 19:51

We thought Rictus EXHT's daughter's Christmas pile was repulsive I raise you the Birthday pile on her TT, I've struggled to think of a word worse than repugnant but I really can't.

PieonaBarm · 03/04/2026 20:30

Yawns been reading here. There’s been a “Management Restructure” and Mr Yawn is now in charge of the FLP business as “big things” are happening at Build a Bear and Mr Yawn might even consider recruiting you apparently…..

YouOKHun · 03/04/2026 20:32

Screen shot from a patronising video talking about the history of aloe vera. The video is in the closed FBO group. Apparently long ago people were busy building pyramids and as it was hard work they turned to aloe Vera. Funny how the pyramid comes before the product, plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

How about:
‘Long ago, in 2015, people were busy building pyramids but they needed to hide this so they turned to aloe vera to act as a cover’.

Anyway, note to all MLMs, best not reference pyramids in any shape or form.

BOTWATCH 91!!! Yes there have been that many threads! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And
definitelynotabot · 03/04/2026 20:39

PieonaBarm · 03/04/2026 20:30

Yawns been reading here. There’s been a “Management Restructure” and Mr Yawn is now in charge of the FLP business as “big things” are happening at Build a Bear and Mr Yawn might even consider recruiting you apparently…..

I did wonder why he's being roped in!

definitelynotabot · 03/04/2026 20:41

I did wonder why he's being roped in!

YouOKHun · 03/04/2026 21:03

I’m surprised Yawn’s had time to do anything else as she has now “curated” over 300 recipes (downloaded from Etsy like every other wellness guru).

As for Yawn seeking to separate herself from FLP with that statement @PieonaBarm I wonder if that is about not going against FLP policy by distracting their victims with your own doomed pyramid scheme or if it is a reflection on what is going on in the background that requires an accounting extension? Poor old Mr Yawn gets to earn the money to prop things up and deal with the source of their woes (FLP), all while Yawn pisses around playing pyramids.

@user1471446301 I can’t look at Rictus/EXHT’s clips of her daughter’s massive pile of presents as I find myself thinking that the child must be insufferable. This isn’t fair of me because she is just a child and the fault lies with her stupid mother using her child to imply wealth.

I wonder if EXHT realises that for every bot who admires her pretend success there are many other viewers and people in her real life who see through her and think she is appalling? This will rub off on the child. I can see this kind of flashy exposure doing the child a lot of social damage and endless spoiling doing damage to her character.

YouOKHun · 03/04/2026 21:10

lots of people want to work with BuildHERDebt (yeah, right) - I am actually crying with happiness, especially after the last 2 years of heartache & starting
over from scratch”.

Starting from scratch and two years of heartache? That’s not what you’ve been telling your audience!

user1471446301 · 03/04/2026 21:21

YouOKHun · 03/04/2026 21:03

I’m surprised Yawn’s had time to do anything else as she has now “curated” over 300 recipes (downloaded from Etsy like every other wellness guru).

As for Yawn seeking to separate herself from FLP with that statement @PieonaBarm I wonder if that is about not going against FLP policy by distracting their victims with your own doomed pyramid scheme or if it is a reflection on what is going on in the background that requires an accounting extension? Poor old Mr Yawn gets to earn the money to prop things up and deal with the source of their woes (FLP), all while Yawn pisses around playing pyramids.

@user1471446301 I can’t look at Rictus/EXHT’s clips of her daughter’s massive pile of presents as I find myself thinking that the child must be insufferable. This isn’t fair of me because she is just a child and the fault lies with her stupid mother using her child to imply wealth.

I wonder if EXHT realises that for every bot who admires her pretend success there are many other viewers and people in her real life who see through her and think she is appalling? This will rub off on the child. I can see this kind of flashy exposure doing the child a lot of social damage and endless spoiling doing damage to her character.

It makes very sad viewing, amongst the whole room carpeted with gifts Rictus hovers over her as she opens a big Louis V box she then swings the new bag about a bit but the little girl is more excited about a labubu cuddly toy. I hope she doesn't turn into Victoria Salt. I always remember when castle went overboard with Mini Turrets gifts (games consoles, motorbike thing and tonnes of other stuff) and he was most chuffed with a great gift set of colourful sharpies. I do feel sorry for all these paraded children

YouOKHun · 03/04/2026 21:45

@user1471446301 just had a look! Revolting display and the video before is of all the girls attending her daughter’s birthday party. As a former assistant [to the] head teacher did it not cross her mind that some of the parents might not want their child’s image shared on social media? I bet she didn’t check.

user1471446301 · 03/04/2026 21:54

YouOKHun · 03/04/2026 21:45

@user1471446301 just had a look! Revolting display and the video before is of all the girls attending her daughter’s birthday party. As a former assistant [to the] head teacher did it not cross her mind that some of the parents might not want their child’s image shared on social media? I bet she didn’t check.

Christ I didn't look at the party I couldn't stomach it after the gifts, the birthday cake had 4 layers and pyrotechnics! Safeguarding is just a no for now in Botland sadly so she won't give a toss.

Justdancevance · 03/04/2026 21:58

has Castle still got the puppy or has it disappeared like the pony

Crwysmam · 03/04/2026 21:59

Had a look at a few of Yawns likes for one of her rather chaotic collection of posts. One of her followers offers private ASD and ADHD assessments, she is currently having a sale???
The levels to which these con artists stoop to make money. I am now compelled to do a deep dive to see whether this woman has any genuine qualifications. Who has a sale of assessments ?

Spongebobette · 03/04/2026 22:39

user1471446301 · 03/04/2026 21:54

Christ I didn't look at the party I couldn't stomach it after the gifts, the birthday cake had 4 layers and pyrotechnics! Safeguarding is just a no for now in Botland sadly so she won't give a toss.

That child is 7

SEVEN

unbelievably poor taste and ridiculous overspending

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YouOKHun · 03/04/2026 22:51

@Crwysmam I wish I could see that post as I’d be really interested to see what qualifications she has too. I am not confident that anyone taken in by Yawn has enough about them to be able to do the necessary training (or have the right core profession).

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