Do all 18 years old go on UC if they cannot find a job

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Do the family needs to show their income or the new adult is considered their own financial unit now , even if they live with the parents and their UC is given them

You can do it if you put a bit more energy and time into yourself.

@TheOutlier because you could afford to look after them.
That's the whole point. Some families will lose money when their child finishes school/college at 18.
I am not just talking about UC benefits.
Child Benefit stops (which most families receive). That's currently £104 a month. For many families that £104 is an important part of the household budget.
In London all under 18s in full-time education get free/tram bus transport.
That stops when they finish education and if they need to travel to be job seeking/interviews that would be £5.25 a day. If that's 5 days a week then that's £105 a month.
Basically the family has lost £104.
How is the 18 year old going to pay for the bus to get to the job centre/interviews etc if the family can't fund it?

Some people have difficult circumstances, of course. Even then I have known people do the most amazing things to overcome that. Not all 18-year-olds need UC. Not at all.

I cannot believe this thread has got so many posts.

Not reading them all as it's the same ideas in a hamster wheel.

Seriously 😂
I'm just going to laugh at that some more.
😂😂😂😂😂😂

I think it's madness that household income isn't take into account.

I've been quite shocked at how normalised it's become for my (almost all) well-off friends' children to start claiming benefits as soon as they hit 18.

Yes.
That's the point of this thread 😂
Some do.
Some don't.
The OP asked "do all 18 year olds claim".
The answer is simply some need to and do and some don't need to so don't.
It's not complicated.

By the way, they don’t have to wait until 18 to work. One of my DC had a fast food job at 16 in the holidays and then alongside sixth form. She wanted more spending money! So if they do work they have money in the bank at 18 to look for a better job. I work, I always have done, even in difficult circumstances when I was really struggling to hold everything together. I wouldn’t dream of claiming benefits as a first stop out of school.

> some don't need to so don't.

The issue is that even if they don't need to, in most cases they do. And who can blame them? If I could save £300 tax a month then I would do it. Why is it different?

The issue is that it shouldn't be possible, because household income should be taken into account to avoid this loophole of well-off households claiming another £300 a month for their lazy child.

Thank you!

@Goldfsh yes but they can't just sit around doing nothing and being lazy.
Don't do what the job centre tells you to do and the money stops.

Cruel world trying to make them better themselves!

No... it's a good thing giving 18 year olds help.
Not cruel 🤷

What I mean is some posters seem to be treating it as cruel that our school leavers are meant to find work. Or study. Or both.

I don't think anyone has said that. Have they?

One of my DS's friends at sixth form had parents who encouraged fierce independence and no reliance on them for "going out expenditures".

She worked 2 jobs to pay for her outgoings. And now she's a working professional and goes on lovely holidays and travels the world.

Not all kids go straight on to UC. When my DC reach 18, I’ll expect them to get a job or go to university and not go on UC but I’ll pay for their essential items to help them out. If they go to uni I’ll be paying a lot more than if they get a job but hey-ho.

Can you link to any post that said that?

Take a look at @selffellatingouroborosofhate . Every possible suggestion about work was shot down.

I’d add that if the whole family works the whole family gets richer and everyone has better lives. If some sit back and expect others to do it then it becomes more of a struggle for the one carrying them on their shoulders. Eventually the sole worker becomes overworked and starts to really struggle. Many hands make light work. Same applies to society.

1. People don't have crystal balls.
2. Postdoctoral research associate positions are the "entry-level jobs" of academia. The people who do them do so in the hope of a better-paid job later. They still live paycheque to paycheque, on short contracts, now.

True if they have feckless parents.

Because you don't have a choice.

You don't choose where your parents live. You don't choose where the social housing your parents were offered is. You don't choose to close the pit and have your dad made unemployed.

Moped riders have died on that road.

Why don't you become a comedian I am sure you're good at that.

It's amazing how they find their way to go to the job centre. Yet, there is an excuse for getting a job.