Do all 18 years old go on UC if they cannot find a job

[Crystalovertherainbow]

Do the family needs to show their income or the new adult is considered their own financial unit now , even if they live with the parents and their UC is given them

You haven't triggered me in the slightest. Don't flatter yourself. I couldn't care less about how much money you and your husband have. I care about the nasty posts you've made about teenagers claiming benefits.

This stood out

I claimed benefits at 19. I have a degree and two post grads and another Ba

You are obviously well educated and capable of a successful career. I.e a person who can override the knocks you experienced later in life. Did you make financial provisions during the good times?

Oh look. It's the tag team. Followed by the person who said I was a scrounger for claiming disability benefits when I had a triple leg fracture. The tag team who look down their nose at anyone on UC.

You do seem very triggered though.

You’ve repeatedly called me a snob. Made derogatory remarks about me and my family. Made assumptions about me and my family.

Before you call anyone else’s posts nasty, have a look at your own.

All I’ve said about teenagers claiming benefits is that it is a bad idea, and should be avoided as far as is possible. I’ve given my view as to why it is a bad idea.

You don’t agree. Which is fine. But there is no need to get personal with me like you have.

People who aren’t on or haven’t claimed benefits before, don’t tend to view benefits as an option. It is most definitely a cycle.

Just not true at all. 'People on benefits' are just normal people who for whatever reason need benefits, which might include while they are job searching and yes they might happen to be young at the time, or not.

Why would I need to be triggered by a benefits basher like you. Because you think anyone who has ever claimed benefits in their life is lacking? That's on you and your own insecurities. It's certainly not on me is it

You are a snob. Your posts reek of privilege despite other people trying to tell you some 18 year olds have it very tough and have to claim benefits till they get a job.

I wouldn't waste my time being "triggered" by someone with your nasty views. I can assure you of that

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Well yes you did say that a ways back. That your kids would come and work in your business when they're teens.

They will getting some work experience, yes.

They won’t be employees.

Dont bother trying to row back and trying to double down after you said you were going to employ your kids and now you are denying it

You have triggered me. You have not. But you seem to to think that anyone who claims benefit is lacking - and that's on you

I'm not an idiot. I've been paying into a pension as soon as I started full time work. I don't even know why you are asking - but no. I didn't have enough money put aside not to claim benefits when I smashed my leg to pieces. What was it you said about me. I love freebies. I also live alone which makes it harder to save compared to a couple

Capable of a successful career! I worked full time for three decades till I broke my leg. Does that suffice?

I’m not rowing back on or denying anything. I said:

I fully intend on having my children come and do work for me in my business when they are teenagers.

Read that again: teenagers.

They’ll be at school, studying and playing for their sports teams at the weekends. How on earth could they actually be employed?

I even gave you further clarification:

my kids will absolutely be working for me in my business when they are teenagers, to build a work ethic, teach them responsibility and give them a sense of self worth.

I literally said it would be for experience, it’s not an employment position 😂

You’re the one that ran with it with the whole, not everyone has mummy and daddy waiting to employ them. And you’re absolutely right about that; my kids don’t either.

I agree.

But the comment you have taken from my post and which is in bold was specifically in relation to teenagers claiming benefits though.

I do fully believe that parents who are not on benefits, or who have never claimed them before, are much less likely to suggest claiming benefits to their teenager who is looking for work, than parents who have claimed benefits in the past, or are currently in receipt of benefits.

It’s just not seen as an option in the same way. Benefits are most definitely a cycle.

Why would I come back on here after your comments about UC. You think people who claim UC are inferior. That do nothing worth their life even if they've been on it a year. Nonsense. Most of the people I knew poor when I did my last degree were on UC. Trying to better themselves

I have no time for people like you. Once more. Don't try and gaslight me.
Leave me alone. I have had enough of you

The families i know who have never claimed benefits haven't needed their 18 year olds to in the same way that I have as a single parent on UC top ups. They can afford to keep their teens until they find a job, assuming that didn't take years. I quite simply couldn't.

Imagine chortling about giving your kids work experience when some families have fuck all

You think people who claim UC are inferior. That do nothing worth their life even if they've been on it a year.

Nowhere have I said this. My position is that I think benefits can be harmful to people.

That doesn’t mean I don’t understand that benefits can also help people.

I think we should proceed with caution when it comes to young people claiming benefits. Especially when they don’t need to.

Benefits are not a cycle. They are there for people who need them. Someone on this thread called me lazy feckless and a freeloader when I worked for 30 years before I broke my leg.

I had a relative that killed themselves when I was 21. I finished my degree and then I fell to bits and went on benefits. I was clinically depressed and my mum had to be signed off work due to the trauma

. I wasn't well enough to work for a short time. How actually dare people call people like me scum and free loaders when you know nothing about my life

And I absolutely get that.

Earlier on in the thread, there were posters saying that it doesn’t matter if 18 year olds could be supported by their parents, that they should claim UC anyway because they are entitled to it and that it would be good for them.

My view is that benefits should only be claimed if needed, not because you are entitled to them.

I completely understand your position. Not everyone can afford to support their 18 year old. That is not what I took issue with.

I went on benefits after my uncle drowned himself. I finished my degree. I have no idea how I managed it but as soon as I finished it I fell apart. Don't you dare criticise people for going on benefits at any age. I was 21 when my uncle died

You are shameful and I am out of this nasty thread

You are a liar. You have been sitting on here slating anyone who is going to claim UC. Calling them lazy

I hope you never lose a relative to suicide and have to claim benefits because you can't cope. And that's happened to my family twice. And that's also to the person who said "you love a freebie"

Don't comment on people's lives when you know nothing about them hope that helps

I do fully believe that parents who are not on benefits, or who have never claimed them before, are much less likely to suggest claiming benefits to their teenager who is looking for work, than parents who have claimed benefits in the past, or are currently in receipt of benefits.
It’s just not seen as an option in the same way. Benefits are most definitely a cycle.

This seems a bit 'benefits bashing' along the lines of generations on benefits a la Daily Mail. Which is nothing to do with this thread, which is about 18 plus year olds claiming UC while job-hunting. I disagree with this paragraph above. Irrelevant if parents have ever claimed benefits. Youth unemployment is a big issue just now.

Which is nothing to do with this thread, which is about 18 plus year olds claiming UC while job-hunting.

Well, we are at page 30 of a thread and posts have been going back and forth for some time. Conversations evolve and not every single comment will remain on topic 🤷‍♀️

Irrelevant if parents have ever claimed benefits. Youth unemployment is a big issue just now.

It’s not irrelevant. And you may consider it a bit benefits bashing, but studies have show that children of benefit claimants are statistically more likely to claim benefits as adults compared to children from non-claimant households. And this isn’t just limited to the UK.

Of course, there are a number of factors that influence this. But it does suggest a cycle of benefits.

Post-18 qualifications other than the oh-so-revered university degree exist. Like becoming a gas fitter, or a sparky, or a brickie, or an airline pilot.