Do all 18 years old go on UC if they cannot find a job

[Crystalovertherainbow]

Do the family needs to show their income or the new adult is considered their own financial unit now , even if they live with the parents and their UC is given them

You aren't derailing at all. I have been in so many shit jobs over the years that affected my mental health - it's hard. If you need any advice about pip or lwcra or if I can help with the employment situation just send me a message. X

Didn't mean derailing the thread, just was trying to figure out how young colleague's girlfriend seem cannot find any other job and it has to be just a carers job....so was wondering where her income comes from, since the boy is on NMW ....not far from my original post and thinking how young people could be helped

It is possible that if they are on a low income they might be entitled to some UC top ups. Good if you were trying to be supportive

I am. I was trying to give advice on possible areas and town for work which are easy to get to on public transport. Of course I don't know do they rent, is it maisonette, house, bungallo, small ex council bungallo etc. He is lovely and hard working and very caring to her, so I was just thinking about them alongside the OP

Carers are wanted everyday if she likes working with old people then she won't be unemployed got long. It's one of the easiest jobs to get because of the large turn over of staff in these homes. I don't get it?

It is not about ...they aspire. No one wants to be dependent of various helps...yet life has always been harder for some ....many are poorer....many are not that resilient and ready to face the world. It is good at least here there are helps

me neither....I just mentioned the young people who need more push and resilience building...both young people I mentioned seem to need more of these qualities

Thank you for this comment. I have seen people who even have been to uni, but ended married and this was their saving grace. Or in low income jobs or struggling to find jobs - it is heart breaking in some cases.....some people really do want to have nice jobs with decent salary but never achieve it

Because she can't get there presumably.
No car or public transport and you're stuck.
Moving home isn't cheap. If renting you need a new deposit, 1st months rent, general moving costs etc. That can be £1000s.
This is how people end up in an unemployed loop.

The aspire thing is really annoying me. My mum had me at 19 and her and my dad divorced a few years later. He gave the bare minimum. Two quid a week until I was 16. My mum was a teacher and was being very badly bullied in school with no support at all so she left her job when she was in her late 20s. She then did supply when she could get it but claimed benefits when she couldn't
and then went back to work when my wee brother was five

She worked from 21 to 67 with a couple of years break tops. Are people supposed to be ashamed to claim benefits when they are being bullied in jobs or are unwell just because some people on mumsnet think you should never claim benefits?

What a mindset

They both have jobs

Do you think it's OK for children to commit criminal acts like that?

I’m a criminal because I did stock taking in my mum’s friend’s bar on a Sunday, and occasionally served regulars drinks who came in early on a Sunday morning?

My mum’s friend also recommended me to the manager of another bar, and I would serve food in there on Saturdays and help at the bar when it was busy.

I also served food and drinks at concerts at large venues, and worked at festivals “illegally”.

And?

This was the early 2000s.

Whilst you’re busy getting your knickers in a twist about it, I’ve built an incredibly successful business, which actually has absolutely nothing to do with my degree or education, but everything to do with the strong work ethic I’ve developed as a result of my “criminal acts”.

I’m from a working class background, and my parents made is very clear that not working was just not an option for me. Picking up jobs here and there, for relatives/friends of our parents, was just the done thing. No one claimed benefits, it was never an option.

Now, the done thing seems to be claiming benefits instead. Children being encouraged to claim benefits, by parents who are claiming benefits.

I truly believe benefits have killed off something in people. Drive, perhaps?

I fully intend on having my children come and do work for me in my business when they are teenagers. It might be “criminal” to you, but I couldn’t give a fuck. it will teach them lessons and give them experience that education never will.

Maybe you could just fucking pipe down with your opinions on whether people claiming benefits makes them a lazy scrounger. Because you are wrong. Every post you've made on here has reeked of look at me. I'm rich and my kids won't ever have to claim benefits

Good for you but that's not the reality for millions of people

Who cares about your business or your rich husband or your chip on your shoulder about poor kids claiming UC.

I don't. You've got a sensitivity chip missing.

You're going to make your kids work for you? I would hate a parent like you. I had an ex who was forced to work in his parents business. All four kids. It did not end well

You haven't a clue. Not every teen claiming benefits has a parent on benefits. And I don't give a hoot whether you grew up poor. You're a judgy snob

Must be great eh to be sitting criticising people on benefits when you have a business and you are going to employ your children. Seriously. Not everyone is in your position. Maybe just pipe down and realise some families are poor and back the fuck off

Some people don't have relatives to get jobs from. I grew up in a single parent family. There was me my mum my gran and my wee brother. All my school friends worked in supermarkets for buttons.

Stop trying to normalise that it's easy for an 18 year old to get work

It is not. I have been in situations in my life where with a degree and a post grad I could not get work. In one job I got to the last two out of 97 and didn't get it but they employed me a few years later

So how do you think an 18 year old is going to walk into a job. No bother if mummy and daddy can employ them. But don't look down your nose at people whose mummy doesn't have their own business

Who cares about your business or your rich husband or your chip on your shoulder about poor kids claiming UC.

You’re the one with the very obvious chip on their shoulder.

My rich husband? I’m from a working class background, but my husband grew up in actual poverty.

If he had claimed benefits at 18, he’d probably still be living like that.

Benefits do nothing but keep you stuck. As I said, they kill something off in people.

You're going to make your kids work for you? I would hate a parent like you. I had an ex who was forced to work in his parents business. All four kids. It did not end well

This seems to be a theme with you. You don’t really like the idea of kids working - much better that they claim benefits apparently. But that aside, my kids will absolutely be working for me in my business when they are teenagers, to build a work ethic, teach them responsibility and give them a sense of self worth.

But that is as far it goes.

They are very much expect to go to university and work part time in hospitality, retail etc. They can find their own part time work. Like everyone other teenager/early 20s kid I see every single day in stores, coffee shops, supermarkets etc.

They will absolutely not be working in my business as adults. They need to carve out their own path in life. Like I said, my children know they aren’t entitled to shit. Benefits included.

You haven't a clue. Not every teen claiming benefits has a parent on benefits. And I don't give a hoot whether you grew up poor. You're a judgy snob

I would imagine the vast majority of teenagers claiming benefits, have a parent on benefits. People who aren’t on or haven’t claimed benefits before, don’t tend to view benefits as an option. It is most definitely a cycle.

Theme with me? I worked for over thirty years before I broke my leg. Launch yourself in the nearest bin. And stay there. I'm just not a crashing snob who thinks teens claiming benefits are the underclass.

I claimed benefits at 19. I have a degree and two post grads and another Ba. My wee brother couldn't get a job after he graduated and eventually claimed benefits and then did a gym instructor qualification and has been working ever since. Almost 20 years.

Maybe you think anyone who ever claims benefits has no ambitions. You would be wrong

Now bore off you entitled crashing snob. You know nothing about what it's like to live in poverty in 2026. That's clear.

Particularly if you don't live in London. Got it!

Clearly you don't work in the West of Scotland where I live where 300 people chase every job. The privilege reeks from you

Wind your neck in

I don’t need to back the fuck off from anything.

I do realise that families are poor. I grew up amongst poor families. My husband is from a poor family. But what you seem to be overlooking, is that one of the factors that contributes to the cycle of poverty are the benefits themselves.

Which is why I am so against 18 year olds being encouraged to claim benefits. I don’t have time to look into it, but I would bet there is a correlation between young people claiming benefits early in life, and being dependent on benefits later on in life.

I’m not a “snob” as you keep calling me. Nor am I looking down my nose at anyone. I’m just really sad that 18 year olds are claiming benefits, and wonder what life will look like for them 10 years down the line, because benefits most definitely keep people stuck. They are a trap and it would be best if as many young people as possible were prevented from taking that path.

1. You told me I had a chip on my shoulder. But as soon as I’ve said it to you, I’m the nasty rotten one?

1. You’re the one ranting at and calling me names, yet my posts are horrible and getting reported?

I get that you don’t agree with me, but there is absolutely no need to react the way you have.

I haven’t crossed any line. I just don’t agree with you.

I’m from Glasgow.

Yes you do. You made personal comments about me. You know zero about me. Now off you go you snob

You think benefits are beneath you. Fine. But not every family have mummy and daddy waiting to employ them like you are going employ your kids

Now I'll excuse myself as I have an essay to finish - that's right. Me on UC and at uni

Snob

The only person making personal comments here is you.

But not every family have mummy and daddy waiting to employ them like you are going employ your kids

I’ve already clarified this. I have absolutely no intention of employing my children. Stop making things up.

Sorry if I triggered you. But I’m as entitled to my opinion as you are.

Don't bother trying to gaslight me. I won't tolerate it. You've made more than one jab at me and others. Not everyone has mummy and daddy to employ them until they go to uni and work in pret

Some teenagers live in areas where 300 people chase every job and they don't have mummy and daddy to give them a leg up

You said your kids were going to be working for you as teens. So don't bother calling me a liar