Do all 18 years old go on UC if they cannot find a job

[Crystalovertherainbow]

Do the family needs to show their income or the new adult is considered their own financial unit now , even if they live with the parents and their UC is given them

The reason that face to face assessments stopped for pip and lwcra was due to covid.

Gotta get back to work now, you carry on…and on…and on…(.I’m sure you will)

Many people who tanked at school become very successful. But what they need is drive and ambition.

Bye now - scroll on if you don't like my posts

That's is a very weird thing to say. Not everyone is academic but they can be excellent with their hands and can excel in a trade or other manual work.

Yanno, work those who think they're somewhat superior to others hire, to do the jobs they wouldn't know one end of the other if they tried?

Unless there's a disability with one of her children all she will be entitled to is Child Benefit.
She won't be able to be claiming UC.

Why won't she be able to claim UC?

I agree with what you said here. Benefits should be a last resort and should be time limited till you are back on your feet. And if someone is going to turn 18 and they aren't going on the academic path, that means job preparation should have started multiple months in advance.

I understand about temporary benefits when made redundant, but don't most people have an emergency fund that lasts a bit? I know some people on here say they have income protection insurance or something like that as well.

I have certainly not said that the care sector is not good enough, in fact I have said rather the opposite.
Why do you value the work of carers so little that you think that anyone would be suitable?

Trying to push unsuitable people into care is such a weird thing to be doing - you didn't really address whether you would be happy with the care of unqualified 18 year olds, I can only assume that you would be.

Ive had to post this so many times im thinking of getting a template made up.

MN! If you are in social housing you should live in it and it should be your only home!
Also MN "why cant brits do the LIVE IN fruit picking jobs We have to have people come from other countries to do the jobs Brits wont do!
Posted this on another thread
"a. Fruit picking veg picking etc a lot of which is LIVE IN work. If you rent social housing you have to actually fucking well live there. You are not allowed to live away from home for the length of time these employers want you to. If you want that you will need to give SH tenants more rights! But that would also mean giving them more rights to leave their home for other reasons Which i suspect the SH haters wouldnt like.
b. Gas safety checks fire door checks electric checks Surveys My tenancy agreement says i have to be home for these and no i cant get a friend or neighbour to do it for me.
c. the hatred there is for SH tenants ensures that some busybody would probably report the flat as abandoned if a tenant were to risk their tenancy by taking this job. Not to mention the fact that a lot of Mners would moan at tenants for breaking a tenancy agreement but would be happy for tenants to break it when it suits their prejudices.
d. i have mentioned SH tenants because they will be the most likely group expected to take these jobs yet their hands are tied and they cant And even if they wont perhaps they want a life after the working day (just like home owners have You know the ones who arent expected to do these jobs instead of sharing a berth with a stranger"

Me too. I think it should be seen as a last resort necessary safety net only for families who can't really afford to keep an adult child fed and clothed while they search for work. I would never expect DC living with me to claim benefits, at any age, unless there was a need to do so.

Because if she has no reason why she can't work she will be expected to be job seeking.
Ironically if she got a low paid job she then would be entitled to some UC as a top up.

If you don’t claim UC then you aren’t getting NI credits so can affect pension.

I think it’s much harder these days for the older teens who want a job.

There’s not many busy big shops (and lots of self-scanning machines etc).

Paper rounds - not happening so much.

Pubs / restaurants closing.

Under 18s can’t do some work. Finding a job around studying is hard eg care work. Or you might need a driving licence and car.

Robotics / automation / AI are replacing people.

It’s tough. I was a teen in the 90s and yes it was easy then, but I don’t think so much now. Not impossible, but harder. Plus now it’s hard to get experience to get on the ladder - you might not get past the application form.

Tutoring maths and English for primary.

I only got fibre internet last year. My mum doesn't have it.

When my workplace of the time locked down, we had to issue laptops to staff who didn't have a computer at home, only a tablet. Others had one computer for the whole family and already had several kids trying to use it at the same time for Zoom classes.

Again, your privilege is showing. In this case, it looks like an automatic assumption that everyone has a computer that they can use exclusively for eight hours per day and a decent internet connection for using the employer's virtual desktop environment.

Because in my entire life I've never seen the UK at full employment. There are always going to be people who need to claim benefits

Under capitalism, unemployment is a feature, not a bug. Marx described the unemployed as providing a "reserve army of labour", and he was right. Think about it:

• When Royal Mail need extra posties and sorters for Xmas, they hire more people. If we had full employment, who would they hire? They hire unemployed people.
• Same for retailers and couriers at Xmas.
• Same for tourist attractions during school holidays.

Capitalism doesn't like full employment. Workers who know that they can get another job easily tend to speak up for their workplace rights. It's a lot easier to bully people on zero hours contracts when you've got several hundred applicants waiting to replace them.

Not enough people on this thread recognise this.

There are zero hour contracts, seasonal wirk avaliable. Not ideal but better than no job.

Even zero hours contracts jobs are hard to get with hundreds of applicants! in some areas anyway. Not sure why people refuse to believe it. And restaurants are getting rid of staff not hiring. Retail is on its arse. Paper rounds are becoming a thing of the past. As for bob a jobs cleaning cars or mowing lawns, not really either. Babysitting- easier for young women than young men. Why would young men risk it. Even with babysitting, that's assuming people have the disposable income. Some of the posters on here seem to have no idea how bad things are now for a lot of people. The economy is screwed and jobs are few and far between.

And many are graduates seeking work. I'd rather they apply for decent jobs as then they will soon be paying tax anyway.

Qualify to do care work?
I know many, many people who had no qualification in care work but came here in the 2000s from Eastern Europe to do exactly this and many other jobs that the local young people (and judging from this thread - their parents as well) think are beneath them. They were determined to earn money and not afraid of hard work in order to achieve that. And who do you think does all the fruit picking in the UK? Young Brits? Naaah... that's beneath them, surely, as well, or maybe they are not qualified, right? BTW you can earn good money doing fruit picking, but you've got to work hard, and all the 3 care homes near me are looking for workers offering the living wage.

Over three quarters of people applying for it get awarded it ?

I was unemployed for 18 months after graduation. And I am sick of people who clearly know nothing about tech bleating "learn to code" as if it's some kind of panacea that will get you a job in tech. It won't, machine learning (that's "AI" to you n00bs) has knocked the bottom out of the entry-level programming job market and the whole IT job market has flatlined.

Your faithfully,
someone who can program in five languages.

Not for mental health they don't

My Russell Group institution got rid of hundreds of people last year. Almost all were graduates and many had PhDs.

But do a degree!!1!1!1!1eleventyone!11!

I think a lot of people on this thread are in denial about how bad things are right now, and are in denial about how precarious their own positions might be.

Buy a computer then. It's a worthwhile investment. You can get some for circa £100. I know someone who paid for their computer in monthly installments.

Normal WiFi is enough. If you want you can use mobile data hotspot.

We are a low income family and I doubt I'll be able to afford to support another adult, so yes, if he couldn't find a job in our small seaside town, which about 50% of the jobs are seasonal, he would claim benefits. He has an excellent work ethic and at 15 has a seasonal summer job, so I know i dont have to worry about him not looking for work or turning his nose up at jobs, but i also know it is far from easy to find a job where we are without your own transport. My husband was out of work for 18 months because he couldn't find anything and couldn't drive, and there was no public transport at the times he needed to get to work where there were jobs. He was applying for multiple jobs a day!