Do all 18 years old go on UC if they cannot find a job

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Do the family needs to show their income or the new adult is considered their own financial unit now , even if they live with the parents and their UC is given them

Of some sort. It might be nothing like what they like. Going on benefits would be totally off putting to prospective employers.

Please don't bring severe disabilities into the conversation as we all know this affects a tiny percentage and they should be excluded. We are talking about the majority of people.

Could it be they would rather be on benefits?

Do you actually know what it's like on UC - you have to show a work coach that you are actively seeking work or be sanctioned

Not making enough effort. Expecting to do a job they like. I.e through choice not necessity.
There has always been unemployment e.g. the 80s. The difference is we now makes excuses for people.

Not on LCWRA.

That's also completely untrue. Plenty of people claim benefits in between jobs - nothing to be ashamed of on a CV

It's very hard to get lcwra. I got it on the third attempt at tribunal and then for a limited period of time

Which isnt everyone! It's not that easy to claim either despite what the media tell you.

Seriously!
You realise some people will never gain more than a "Level 1" qualification
which is basically a GCSE grade 1-3.
Some people just can't do it for various reasons.
Doesn't mean they are stupid and don't try hard - they just aren't suited to academic life.
I'd love to hear of a university that will accept an 18 year old with just 1 or 2 GCSEs in grade 1-3 and maybe a just scraped a pass Level 1 Foundation qualification.

Alot of people have periods between jobs.
Benefits wouldn't be claimed as they didn't want the stigma or shame. That has been eroded.

Understandably non benefit claimants are anti benefit claimants. Biggest divide in society. Tells you everything you need to know about someones character.

Perhaps, as you keep saying, it’s because they are “entitled” to it, rather than actually needing it?

The open university. That's the only one I know for sure

I have no idea. What I do know is having been on it myself is that if you are in the all work group you need to evidence to a work coach that you are actively job seeking - 35 hours a week or face being sanctioned

Well govt are slashing payments for new applicants on LCWRA from April and people on it are going to be assessed regularly (not happening at the moment ) so obviously they think the numbers on it are way too high, even if you don’t.

Yes but if they can't get more than a couple of GCSEs at Grade 1 or 2 they aren't going to be able to study at the level that Open University needs.

I know a girl who dropped out of school at 16, didn't bother with GCSEs and has never worked in her life. She's approaching 30 now and just claims benefits for her kids. She and her low wage boyfriend (he works at least but he's very financially irresponsible) just live with her mum and just take what they can from the state.

If they can't get more than 1s and 2s at GCSE are they going to be productive in the workforce?

And there’s the issue, working in the care sector is deemed not good enough and not suited for some unemployed people. God forbid that someone who needs money to live off might have to get a job they don’t want to do when they can just rely on benefits. I must get back to work to support those who are selective!

Lots of people at the ou start their degree with no qualifications - and manage to finish it

Really?
I am not going to answer that.
Edit :
Actually I will.
An example....
17 year old who has no GCSEs and is working towards some foundation level qualifications.
No GCSEs due to Anxiety Based School Refusal and also missing school due to other medical issues.
Will age out of school in a year and a half (at 19).
Is smart, creative, and could easily do plenty of jobs.
Probably still won't have any GCSEs at age 19. Just doesn't cope with anything academic.

No need to roll your eyes!

That's nice.
Not everyone can do academic study though.

I didn't say that so don't put words into my mouth please

At 18 you are an adult and should fund yourself, from working or from UC while you look for a job
Parents can't afford to pay for adult children especially once child benefit stops

Of course they can. My DS, left school with minimal GCSEs for various reasons, none related to his intelligence. He works in a warehouse. Not the most exciting job, but it's a job. He's productive. He's earning and paying tax.