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Botwatch 90!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And ‘coaching’ scams are just as bad!

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Spongebobette · 15/10/2025 11:49

New Fred

welcome one and all to bot watching- where we pint out the lies and manipulation by ‘bots’ - those involved in network marketing, coaching etc etc

there is no magic money tree so don’t be fooled!

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YouOKHun · 05/01/2026 00:16

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 31/12/2025 15:48

I think they have two paying members, the dog training ex bot and the crafting ex bot.
Very interestingly, the crafting one is doing pretty well and featured on a local website. I don’t know of anyone else here spotted it, but when she posted it in the BuildaBear group, both her and the article gave a huge shout out to her ‘mentor’ Techie. Not a single mention of Yawn whatsoever.

There are no signs of any other followers are there? Techie is offering more tangible skills. They will have got some kind of website out of techie but nothing of any obvious or measurable benefit from Yawn. Techie must be wondering what the benefits of association with Yawn is. I expect Yawn has convinced her she is nothing without Yawn’s brand of fairy dust.

Back to your J.O.B @dickiedavisthunderthighshaving enjoyed a holiday without panicky manifesting for a turnaround in fortunes in 2026!

Spongebobette · 05/01/2026 01:31

‘Learn how to get rich like a lucky bitch’

charming

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AbbeyGrange · 05/01/2026 09:00

Spongebobette · 05/01/2026 01:31

‘Learn how to get rich like a lucky bitch’

charming

Keep it classy Yawn....

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 05/01/2026 12:17

YouOKHun · 04/01/2026 19:00

Happy New Year Botwatchers!

Unless I have been blocked from taking an anonymous peek at Mrs Boring’s LinkedIn profile, I think she has disappeared from LinkedIn altogether. It’s not long ago she was posting at least once a day. Then she stopped, with only a couple of interactions with others’ posts. One interaction agreeing with someone about not liking people looking at their LinkedIn profile regularly. Perhaps if she hadn’t been treating LinkedIn like a Facebook page that would have helped.

If she has disappeared altogether it doesn’t seem like the Borings are staying quiet while they continue working on their successful FLP biz having hit a snag as property tycoons. You’d surely keep your social media page alive and ready for an upturn if you had a blip? It feels like the whole thing has collapsed and they have disappeared completely while some process happens over which they don’t have control (and would really rather we didn’t see). Boring Mansion sits forlornly, becoming less and less worth its reduced price. If it sells I wonder if that will be the catalyst for their triumphant botting return or if, as we suspect, the damage is more extensive and they are in real trouble. Yet another example of the precarious success in MLM which attracts these flash fly-by-night types like Mr Boring. I wish we had agents on the ground in Boringville!

I reckon she's had the block hammer out, as I can see her commenting away as usual.

YouOKHun · 05/01/2026 12:42

Yep, I can see she has a profile from a search engine but can’t see her on LinkedIn so I think you’re right @dickiedavisthunderthighsI have been blocked. Interesting that she has blocked me as an anonymous viewer. I have lots of anonymous LinkedIn views on my profile which I assume are recruiters (NHS etc, not the MLM kind!). I don’t feel the need to petrol who looks but I don’t have anything to hide either. She is only policing her profile because she is no longer able to show off and bang on about FLP being the route out of domestic abuse/poverty/lonliness/poor mental health. Her silencing is an absolute bonus. I assume she is still silent on there?

SnoogyWoo · 05/01/2026 12:59

Cold sores are a sure sign of high stress. Looks like yawns break was anything but.

YouOKHun · 05/01/2026 13:56

Salon has posted about her DD because she needs to justify her absence from social media. I actually feel very sorry for her as handling her DD’s current situation sounds extremely challenging BUT in order to keep her downlines on the boil and keep her MLM paymasters on side she has to go live. In doing this she is completely breaching her DD’s privacy.

She talks about her DD’s daily meltdowns, diagnosis, challenging behaviours. Her DH even names the MH unit currently assessing the DD. Open FB account, private information out there forever. This social media post isn’t to get things off her chest and seek support, it’s to justify herself - this isn’t the freedom of network marketing, it’s an example of how you’ve got to sell your soul. She even says “thankfully I can work flexibly thanks to being in NWM”. Meanwhile her DH sits by her side on the Live clearly very keen for her to explain herself and get back out there before ZZino dumps her. Where is the freedom in that?

user1471446301 · 05/01/2026 15:15

YouOKHun · 05/01/2026 13:56

Salon has posted about her DD because she needs to justify her absence from social media. I actually feel very sorry for her as handling her DD’s current situation sounds extremely challenging BUT in order to keep her downlines on the boil and keep her MLM paymasters on side she has to go live. In doing this she is completely breaching her DD’s privacy.

She talks about her DD’s daily meltdowns, diagnosis, challenging behaviours. Her DH even names the MH unit currently assessing the DD. Open FB account, private information out there forever. This social media post isn’t to get things off her chest and seek support, it’s to justify herself - this isn’t the freedom of network marketing, it’s an example of how you’ve got to sell your soul. She even says “thankfully I can work flexibly thanks to being in NWM”. Meanwhile her DH sits by her side on the Live clearly very keen for her to explain herself and get back out there before ZZino dumps her. Where is the freedom in that?

Yes, she needs to keep the grift alive with a live. Undoubtedly the DD and family are having an extremely challenging time. She slates the NHS but a quick search through her previous posts proclaims she enjoys not a 6 but 7 figure income if that was me my hand would be straight in my pocket and thank my lucky stars I could afford private treatment. Or like me get a JOB fortunate to have BUPA included. It's only back in August she claimed the Z oil cured the all the DD's ailments and she was a different child, cured another persons non verbal child and another little boys blood levels after having a heart op.

She's in a rock and an MLM hard place, she needs to focus privately on her DD and take a good look at the snake oil business which I'm sure is not giving her much of an income.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 05/01/2026 15:24

YouOKHun · 05/01/2026 12:42

Yep, I can see she has a profile from a search engine but can’t see her on LinkedIn so I think you’re right @dickiedavisthunderthighsI have been blocked. Interesting that she has blocked me as an anonymous viewer. I have lots of anonymous LinkedIn views on my profile which I assume are recruiters (NHS etc, not the MLM kind!). I don’t feel the need to petrol who looks but I don’t have anything to hide either. She is only policing her profile because she is no longer able to show off and bang on about FLP being the route out of domestic abuse/poverty/lonliness/poor mental health. Her silencing is an absolute bonus. I assume she is still silent on there?

It's the usual banal commenting on crap, nothing new. Definitely nothing posted about bizznizz.

ticktock19 · 05/01/2026 15:57

I was going to comment on salon too, in addition to her live then she has recently gone on about how poorly she has been and how painful her back is and is awaiting MRI results. Her post underneath that one is attributing a 2 stone(!) weightloss since the start of Dec to Z’s great products 🙄

YouOKHun · 05/01/2026 16:22

2Jags in her sunglasses looking, frankly, peculiar and
telling her audience she can’t promise them a million pound business in 2026 (ain’t that the truth?!). Neither is what she’s offering a Get Rich Quick Scheme (also true). What SHE can promise is a change to the amount of money in your bank account. She doesn’t clarify exactly what that means. She is another one quietly propped up by another source of income (PC Rambo of the Yard) and selling the opportunity as far more lucrative and guaranteed than it is. Someone somewhere will be falling for it :(

YouOKHun · 05/01/2026 16:27

@ticktock19I didn’t read Salon’s post in the context of the ones either side of it! I should have done. She’s awful. If she has really been distracted away from her grift then that’s probably the kiss of death for ZZino. I expect to read that she is moving on to another great opportunity, probably around mid February when she has found out just how supportive her current company is when she takes a month off.

Spongebobette · 05/01/2026 18:07

Oh dearie me,
Weird Wily emerges from his flat on an anonymous housing estate to deliver a rambling invitation to join his group where he’s definitely not the guru and mentions STRUCTURE a lot

He’s an unhappy, unfulfilled man living a lonely life so please join his group to make him stop feeling useless

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Justdancevance · 05/01/2026 20:13

I see Castle is now running an ‘agency’,
she has quite a large team, how long will it last do you think ?

I hope they’re getting paid for doing all the heavy lifting for her

I wonder if anyone else has gone to the police independently of castle, she seems quite confident she’s moved on from it with zero consequences

YouOKHun · 05/01/2026 20:24

@Spongebobette it’s a free group and you could be the seventh member in the name of botwatching research! Tempted?

He must be elated as previously he wasn’t getting anything like the level of [virtually zero] interest he is getting now. It’s a cringy exercise in convincing himself that he’s not the terrible inauthentic flakey grifter he knows in his heart he is. Has he lost his job or had his vegetable delivery hours cut post Christmas? He needs to have his free time tied up so he can’t hunt down vulnerable women (it’s never men is it?).

Spongebobette · 05/01/2026 20:35

Wow, 6 members who must ENJOY random CAPITALS in bullet pointed LISTS

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Spongebobette · 05/01/2026 21:08

10 years ago he was living in a grand (rented) house and showing off his V8 Rangey

how the mighty have fallen

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Crikeyalmighty · 05/01/2026 21:58

Justdancevance · 05/01/2026 20:13

I see Castle is now running an ‘agency’,
she has quite a large team, how long will it last do you think ?

I hope they’re getting paid for doing all the heavy lifting for her

I wonder if anyone else has gone to the police independently of castle, she seems quite confident she’s moved on from it with zero consequences

isnt she ex police?

Spongebobette · 06/01/2026 15:51

Yawn’s done a ‘pre launch to existing members’

what even is that? Basically repackaging the same old same old to the same small group of devotees

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YouOKHun · 06/01/2026 16:28

@Spongebobette I hope the members haven’t been existing too long because the sense of déjà vu is going to be constant. Her “Safety with Money” coaching will be interesting. Will she advise against signing up to MLM, living beyond your means and failing to plan for the inevitable downturn in the MLM “industry”? What about the merits of a large directors loan? What about money realism - facing the fact that your chosen coaching career is not viable. When it comes to financial coaching Yawn is just about the last person anyone should listen to. It doesn’t really matter if she has a fictitious business up until the point people pay her to help them. Not only is it a waste of money paying her but it’s potentially a lot more expensive if anyone then takes her advice. Advice which will be based on keeping someone signed up and paying rather than helping them.

AbbeyGrange · 06/01/2026 18:14

What is it with all these launches? Utterly pointless as It defeats the object if you keep doing them over and over! Launches are meant to wet the appetite of what's to come, create excitement for your potential customers, it won't do that if you're constantly launching every bloody week, any idiot knows that..

Spongebobette · 06/01/2026 20:29

These MLM types LOVE a launch, a pre launch, a countdown…..

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YouOKHun · 06/01/2026 21:10

First Law of Abstraction - get your audience to picture success in their minds then tell your audience that great things are just over the horizon. Add in further phases to create a longer launch phase. Create side schemes and VIP groups that will offer some kind of fast track or special knowledge. Distract with posts about “the truth” and tell them they’re part of something special which is STILL just over the horizon.

Launch a launch within the launch you’ve already launched. Create enough headless excitement that non of them will notice that what you’re launching is like the proverbial rainbow on the horizon. However hard you try to get close it just moves further away. Eventually it disappears and so does the pot of gold Castle told you was waiting there for you, but strangely, post launch, she is showing off new fillers and a couple of Louis Vuitton bags but whatever was launched has disappeared to be replaced with the launch of the next launch. And so it goes on.

AbbeyGrange · 06/01/2026 23:32

YouOKHun · 06/01/2026 21:10

First Law of Abstraction - get your audience to picture success in their minds then tell your audience that great things are just over the horizon. Add in further phases to create a longer launch phase. Create side schemes and VIP groups that will offer some kind of fast track or special knowledge. Distract with posts about “the truth” and tell them they’re part of something special which is STILL just over the horizon.

Launch a launch within the launch you’ve already launched. Create enough headless excitement that non of them will notice that what you’re launching is like the proverbial rainbow on the horizon. However hard you try to get close it just moves further away. Eventually it disappears and so does the pot of gold Castle told you was waiting there for you, but strangely, post launch, she is showing off new fillers and a couple of Louis Vuitton bags but whatever was launched has disappeared to be replaced with the launch of the next launch. And so it goes on.

Yep and the paying followers are too thick to see it...

YouOKHun · 07/01/2026 01:49

*none! Must learn to proofread. I make more mistakes that a professional bot biz post.

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