Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Money matters

Find financial and money-saving discussions including debt and pension chat on our Money forum. If you're looking for ways to make your money to go further, sign up to our Moneysaver emails here.

Botwatch 89!!!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM.

1000 replies

Spongebobette · 10/07/2025 10:38

New thread! Welcome to anyone who wants to be better informed about the dodgy practices of multi level marketing companies

OP posts:
Thread gallery
36
Spongebobette · 04/08/2025 14:55

Is she cheering herself on through her posts?

OP posts:
Spongebobette · 04/08/2025 14:56

Spongebobette · 04/08/2025 14:55

Is she cheering herself on through her posts?

Edited

?

Botwatch 89!!!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM.
OP posts:
YouOKHun · 04/08/2025 15:42

I could run down the high street naked and I will “be seen” and I expect I will get arrested attention for it but it doesn’t mean that because I seek attention and I have been noticed I therefore control the narrative and will only receive positive attention and feedback. Not all attention is good Yawn. Attention doesn’t correlate with value.

It reminds me of an interviewer asking Ricky Gervais what his advice was for someone who wanted to be noticed and be famous. He answered, ‘well if it’s fame you want then the quickest route is to commit an act of homicide. You’ll get lots of attention, media exposure and you will be instantly famous’. He didn’t say ‘why not become a mindset coach and merge in with all the others with an identical, nonsensical offering’.

Yawn isn’t interested in doing anything quietly. Nothing exists unless it has a carefully selected positive audience. All of this is just about finding a way to receive positive attention/affirmation and coaching seems to be the main hope of that but it isn’t working as well as it was in FLP and she can’t hang on to that sycophantic audience. As we’ve said before, at this stage it isn’t about money anymore.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 04/08/2025 15:55

Yes, even Yawn must now realise that the ‘coaching’ grift is a dead end financially.
She probably thought she could rekindle the (limited) success she had in FLP by reproducing her methods with a captive audience of cowed adoring downlines, both in terms of SM validation and income.
Now that that has clearly fallen flat, it’s just the ‘being noticed’ that’s left (and she really isn’t).
It’s really rather pathetic, and only serves to highlight what a fragile narcissistic ego she has while having fuck all of any value to offer.

Spongebobette · 04/08/2025 18:13

Yet again after a meeting she feels the need to come straight on social media to talk about how happy and proud of herself she is

THIS IS NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOUR IN BUSINESS

OP posts:
DeliaDeetz · 04/08/2025 18:18

Most of Yawn's recent posts seem to be pictures from her previous photo shoots accompanied by a wall of drivel that is not as inspirational as she clearly thinks it is.

BSintolerant · 04/08/2025 18:51

Spongebobette · 04/08/2025 14:50

I will always have a Growth Minded???

She must be talking about that enormous dick on her head, because if it grows any bigger it’ll need a minder of its own to stop it dragging on the floor, protect it from being recruited by MLM bots, being misused as a magic wand by woo coaches … that sort of thing.

Spongebobette · 04/08/2025 19:18

She’s not just good, she’s ’bloody phenomenal!’

According to herself

OP posts:
Wintersgirl · 04/08/2025 20:16

I bet Mr Yawn's getting twitchy....

Angrymum22 · 05/08/2025 01:30

Spongebobette · 04/08/2025 18:13

Yet again after a meeting she feels the need to come straight on social media to talk about how happy and proud of herself she is

THIS IS NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOUR IN BUSINESS

Edited

It’s also very unprofessional and with the amount of detail she shares may well breach whatever confidentiality she offers as part of her service.
Im quite sure that financial services are pretty tight when it comes to breaches. The amount of detail she offers would be a red flag to me, and to any potential business partner/affiliation of her “client”. It’s now a standard part of recruitment to check social media and any links you may have.

PieonaBarm · 05/08/2025 05:51

Spongebobette · 04/08/2025 18:13

Yet again after a meeting she feels the need to come straight on social media to talk about how happy and proud of herself she is

THIS IS NOT NORMAL BEHAVIOUR IN BUSINESS

Edited

I take her “meetings” with a pinch of salt. I suspect some of them are completely made up. For example the mortgage advisor for a multinational company. What a crock of 💩 if there is a mortgage advisor she will be punting to go on a recommended list and might get a couple of referrals, but not a chance for every person there and absolutely not for overseas branches, and probably not even cover Scotland as the house buying system is different, never mind France, Spain, USA, Far East etc etc

YouOKHun · 05/08/2025 17:59

“I certainly felt small and unimportant in my last company which was super upsetting”. Yawn talking about Forever Living.

Really this is her finding out that when an MLM scheme is done with you there is zero looking over their shoulder as they cut you out and all those super supportive MLM friends drop you sharp too. She isn’t the first and she won’t be the last to be spat out by the system. She made it easier for them by being the character she is and having no supporters there. Perhaps she should reflect on the nature of MLMs and on why she was so happy to manipulate and lie to people on behalf of FLP.

In the post she goes on to instruct people about how to conduct communication with others with confidence and to reduce conflict. I’d rather take instruction on that from the Kray twins.

YouOKHun · 05/08/2025 18:00

Arrggh, anyone else getting Notino adverts full of Oriflame products for sale?

YouOKHun · 05/08/2025 19:36

On 26th July a loyal downline of Yawn announced she was quitting Forever to concentrate on her Doggy Day Care business - that is good news. However, she has jumped from the frying pan into the fire as Yawn has announced Doggy Bot is “upgrading” from the Unlucky Club to the Build a Bare Faced Lie grift now that Yawn has “helped” her see the merits of upgrading from a £22 a month spend to a £3k spend.

Doggy Bot says, ‘I'm manifesting earning enough money to be able to afford the Build Her Brand’. To which Yawn responds, ‘Ahh I love this, clearing your money blocks is so important which is why I dedicated a whole month to it in Unlucky Club - it's incredible when it flows in & out & you can live life freely, I love this for you’.

It’s just sickening. And it shows that any remaining members of the Unlucky Club have paid £22 to be on the receiving end of Yawn’s hard sell of the new grift. Doggy Bot is clearly not the most confident but she already knows her skills and has the ideas and doesn’t need to give that shower £3k. This is an exercise in coercion not coaching and this woman wants to please Yawn. But Yawn told her Forever would be amazing and it clearly wasn’t. If only she could see that Yawn is gaslighting her not to trust her own judgement.

Spongebobette · 05/08/2025 19:55

doggy day care is an actual business and is in demand

the owner doesn’t need photo shoots or manifestation coaching, she just needs a basic website and advice on insurance and GDPR etc

OP posts:
Sugarplum48 · 06/08/2025 09:02

Someone should contact doggy bot and really forwarn her.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 06/08/2025 12:45

Has anyone come across MWRLife? It's another travel mlm that Wig and Sleaze have suddenly leapt on. I recognise the UK 'leader', first name same as the actress who plays Wendy in Ozark. Surname is two letters, the same initials for another way of saying Eucharist.
If you manage to get that far (sorry) I recognise her but can't work out where she was before, do not get a good feeling though.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 06/08/2025 12:45

Sugarplum48 · 06/08/2025 09:02

Someone should contact doggy bot and really forwarn her.

Doggy bot has worked with Yawn for years, I doubt there's much anyone could tell her :(

YouOKHun · 06/08/2025 16:45

@dickiedavisthunderthighs ah yes, she of the “massive Spanish food poisoning fraud” which was all over the tabloids in 2023. I’ve not heard anything about the case and there is nothing in the British media recently but the Spanish judge wouldn’t allow the case to be dropped so I presume it’s ongoing. I think she was in that other travel scam as well as various financial pyramids often under her previous last name (the same as actress Yootha). Well spotted, I had forgotten all about her.

Spongebobette · 06/08/2025 16:55

Clue please?

OP posts:
YouOKHun · 06/08/2025 17:48

@Spongebobetteif you look her up on a search engine it should show the many tabloid articles which should appear by using her first name (same as journalist Kuenssberg) and then her other last name (ref actress Yootha). Those articles will give you her double barrelled married name. She only uses the initials of the double barrelled name on FB.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 06/08/2025 18:10

YouOKHun · 06/08/2025 16:45

@dickiedavisthunderthighs ah yes, she of the “massive Spanish food poisoning fraud” which was all over the tabloids in 2023. I’ve not heard anything about the case and there is nothing in the British media recently but the Spanish judge wouldn’t allow the case to be dropped so I presume it’s ongoing. I think she was in that other travel scam as well as various financial pyramids often under her previous last name (the same as actress Yootha). Well spotted, I had forgotten all about her.

YESSSS I knew I knew her from somewhere but just couldn't place her at all, thank you! Fucking hell, she is an absolute dyed in the wool crook.

BSintolerant · 06/08/2025 18:32

That food poisoning scam case is ongoing @YouOKHun. There was a report at the beginning of the year which said she was charged under her maiden name (shared by a former Tory Prime Minister who resigned after the referendum on Brexit). Her brother and several others are involved too.

Amazing how many dodgy folk are involved in MLM isn’t it?

Spongebobette · 06/08/2025 18:46

Havd found the articles and yes it seems to be an ongoing case! But can’t find her account

OP posts:
Spongebobette · 06/08/2025 18:52

Oh is she in New Zealand?

OP posts:
Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.