Botwatch 86!!! the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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On this thread we are botwatchers - watching multi level marketing bots and exposing their manipulations and misleading claims

It will be an Ali Express special. To go with her fake life.

The discrepancy between Yawns actual situation and life and what she shows to people on social media really intrigues me. I’d love to be a fly on the wall to see the reality. I think it would make a good premise for a tv plot.

In a desperate attempt to get the attention of followers Yawn is setting herself a challenge of growing her Insta followers by attracting 5K new followers and she will be sharing her secrets with her Unlucky Club members as this happens over the next few months. I'm dying to ask about her silent 9k FB followers made up of random and no doubt purchased followers and people who followed back in the good old days and no longer engage.

She has no track record of doing this as an individual (without reference to Forever Living) and if anyone is still watching her in a few month's time they will be the people who don't question why this has never happened or why the extra 5K followers all decided to follow her at the same time.

We’ve probably heard of the miracle of Jesus feeding the five thousand, but I don’t think Guru Yawn’s miracle of the following of the five thousand will ever materialise.

That'll be more money wasted on buying followers. I wonder how much cash she's wasted to date on buying this fake life??

So she's basically admitted all her followers are paid for!

Yep. Remember when flp sent them to a social media master class on how to do tik tok and she bought thousands of tok tok following bots. Hilarious as no bugger actually followed her in real life apart from the delulus from flp.

News from the USA:

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2025/01/ftc-proposes-rule-changes-new-rule-deter-deceptive-earnings-claims-multilevel-marketers-money-making

"The Federal Trade Commission is seeking comment on proposed changes to the Business Opportunity Rule and a proposed new Earnings Claim Rule that, taken together, would strengthen the agency’s tools to curb deceptive earnings claims in industries where they are pervasive: multi-level marketing (MLM) programs and money-making opportunities.
While deceptive earnings claims are already illegal, the proposed changes to the FTC’s Business Opportunity Rule and the new Earnings Claim Rule would allow the FTC to seek strong relief – including money back for consumers and civil penalties – from covered companies making deceptive claims.
“Phony claims about likely earnings lure people looking for honest income into spending thousands, even tens of thousands, of dollars on multi-level marketing, business coaching and other schemes,” said Sam Levine, Director of the Bureau of Consumer Protection. “The proposed rules would help the FTC deter illegal conduct with civil penalties and put money back in consumers’ pockets. We look forward to getting public comment.”

Its US-only of course, but a step forward...

Her new grift is now investments. If you find money put it in your bank and thank your gas company for sending you a bill. What utter crap

That is indeed an important step forward @xenu1, thanks for highlighting it.
My caveat would be that the current US administration is hell bent on sweeping away regulation, including customer protections. The orange one also has a history of endorsing particularly dodgy MLMs...

What bots don’t realise is buying followers drastically reduces your chance of any actual social media success. The algorithms look at someone with loads of unengaged followers and they make the account harder to find as presumably it’s an account no one likes. You’d be far better off having 50 real people who like, comment and watch stuff as it will show the algorithm that, percentage wise, you’re popular and so you’ll be far more likely to be discovered by new people.

Theyre shooting themselves in the foot.

But then, sometimes I wonder how much they actually want to achieve real success with a business and how much they just want to look the part.

It might be more important to the likes of Yawn that people see she has loads of followers so they think she’s successful- than actually making it work authentically- especially if it’s less glam.

Trust me, looking the part is more important than being able to actually do the job in hand to yawn. Her ego is her job.

@xenu1 that is good news but I agree with @Twentytwentyhindsight about the orange one. He only distanced himself from heavy involvement in ACN when he started his first presidential campaign, even then the distancing was only after advice to do so. He is totally on the side of any business that exploits the many for big rewards for the very few. I just can’t believe he is back in the WH. The MLM leaders must be delighted.

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Good point both! We'll see...Trump appears to have let the anti-Monopoly prosecutions continue, which is something. Let's hope The Donald is too busy to stop the FTCs - very tentative - approach to curbing MLMs.
Incidentally MLMs are a problem for conservative politicians - you get an invitation to speak a conference - and are paid for it. Everyone in the audience is cheering and seemingly delighted.with the organisation: what's not to like....?

So is yawn now trying to claim she's friends with Deborah meaden whilst spamming her newest investment grift?? She's turned into castle.

It just shows how detached from reality Yawn is to now be advising people on investments when she’s got a £200k directors loan that she can’t begin to repay.

It's absolutely stunning that she's actually making out she's mates with Deborah meaden and her flunkies are buying into it. The fact she's not correcting them is just plain mad. She's lost it big time now.

She's using that screenshot of Deborah Meaden to legitimise her business, "look you saps, this is the sort of person I mingle with" Scammy and misleading, not sure Deborah would be best pleased..

The link to the new HQ welcome guide is available on the FBO page. Of note is the cost of booking a meeting space for FBOs. The minimum time they can book for is 4 hours and the cost is £40 or £20 for the 4 hours depending on the size of the room. Not hugely expensive but a sign that FLP will monetise a bot's presence in the building - I expect they didn't do this before. Cost of the meeting rooms will be charged to the booking bot and will be donated to their chariddy (allegedly).

The best bit is the instruction not to prospect in the communal areas. This is reiterated along with some other instructions about how to behave. They clearly don't think the FBOs know how to behave in the communal areas and that they are likely to draw complaint from the other occupants. They are right to worry. As for recruiting people from the other companies housed in the building, Forever Living is going to have to patrol that one because there is no way bots won't try and push FLP to anyone in that building who stands still long enough.

They have also said that only Forever related business and discussion is allowed in the new HQ, presumably to avoid the Yawns of this world borrowing the building to try and make their coaching businesses look more successful and legitimate. I wonder if this welcome pack is the first time many if the bots have realised the new office is a shared one indicative of belt tightening not growth?

Yawn tagged Instagram of the investment group on her stories so all her minions need to do is look them up and see she was watching a webinar along with thousands of other people!
I mean she should be telling them the truth but it always astounds me that these people blindly believe all this bullshit!

They're so stupid and gullible it's infruiating....

@Wintersgirl Deborah Meaden is famously anti trading scheme isn't she? I remember the Dragon's Den when someone appeared seeking investment in their water purifying system (could have been Enagic MLM), she was straight on it, calling them out as a pyramid scheme. I've seen her comment elsewhere on MLM. I doubt she would see the business case for living with a massive loan while trying to make a living in a dying MLM and running a pointless ego trip on the side. Can you imagine DM saying, 'what would be a really good idea is to go on a photo shoot at this stage of your business. Don't worry about debt and a lack of earning, just dream big'.

Yawn's failure to correct the assumption that she has some personal contact with DM is just another example of how dishonest Yawn is. I'd call it out if I didn't risk being blocked.

@DeliaDeetz cross post re the investment group. They won't do what you've done, they will just take Yawn's FB post at face value - it is very frustrating isn't it?!

Looking at her current most avid followers who comment, they all seem pretty vulnerable and star struck, as if being close to just a little piece of Yawn's fake glamorous life can't be questioned and mustn't be examined or they'll be cast out. It's a horrible manipulative game and Yawn gets 100% of the blame for it because she chooses her victims carefully.

So why is Yawn mentioning investments all of a sudden?