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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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DefyingGravy · 02/01/2025 14:35

WearyAuldWumman · 02/01/2025 12:08

Same here. I saw three for my county, and another couple for a bigger area including my county.

In that case I think there must be enough bond holders in your county and that’s where you look. Although I suppose it could change if lots withdraw and it falls under the threshold again!

say there were 150,000 bond holders in Pembrokeshire but only 25,000 in the rest of iSouth West Wales, someone from Pembs would be under Pembs, and someone from Carmarthenshire would be under South West Wales.

WearyAuldWumman · 02/01/2025 14:38

DefyingGravy · 02/01/2025 14:35

In that case I think there must be enough bond holders in your county and that’s where you look. Although I suppose it could change if lots withdraw and it falls under the threshold again!

say there were 150,000 bond holders in Pembrokeshire but only 25,000 in the rest of iSouth West Wales, someone from Pembs would be under Pembs, and someone from Carmarthenshire would be under South West Wales.

The weird thing is that what's showing up for me is the equivalent of "Pembrokeshire" but also "Pembrokeshire and south west Wales" rather than just "Pembrokeshire" and "south west Wales".

growlum · 02/01/2025 15:04

I’m a bit new to this, bought a small number of bonds in October, and downloaded the NS&I app. The app says the draw is on 3rd Jan, so a bit confused how some of you know if you have won or not, can anyone explain please?

RubbishDay · 02/01/2025 15:09

growlum · 02/01/2025 15:04

I’m a bit new to this, bought a small number of bonds in October, and downloaded the NS&I app. The app says the draw is on 3rd Jan, so a bit confused how some of you know if you have won or not, can anyone explain please?

Agent million personally visits each of the millionaire winners the day before the 1st working day of the month except when it is a bank holiday.

The high value list of winners down to £1000 prizes is published on the PB website here on the 1st working day of the month www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Then all prizes, including the low value ones are shown in the app on the second working day of the month.

People looking at prizes today are trying to spot their bond numbers in the high value list.

But everyone can check for ALL prizes tomorrow on the cream app.

JumpinJellyfish · 02/01/2025 15:22

Look at these results - big congrats to them! Just goes to show that small holdings can still really pay off!

PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......
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growlum · 02/01/2025 15:29

RubbishDay · 02/01/2025 15:09

Agent million personally visits each of the millionaire winners the day before the 1st working day of the month except when it is a bank holiday.

The high value list of winners down to £1000 prizes is published on the PB website here on the 1st working day of the month www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Then all prizes, including the low value ones are shown in the app on the second working day of the month.

People looking at prizes today are trying to spot their bond numbers in the high value list.

But everyone can check for ALL prizes tomorrow on the cream app.

Thank you!

lap90 · 02/01/2025 15:50

Had someone ring the bell the other day when i was out - nobody in the house knows who on earth the person is and for a minute i thought it could be Agent Million 🤣... then i saw the big winners list!!!

doodles55 · 02/01/2025 15:50

A very clear explanation RD, thank you

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 16:49

Yes if can be confusing as the month draw results show beginning of month

But it's actually drawn the month before at the end

I always put the high winners list up

Which is always the first working day of the month

App is day after

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drowsy · 02/01/2025 17:40

I've got an auto prize reinvestment of £500 showing in the blue app now! 5.40 pm, the earliest I've seen something show up.

Fancytrike · 02/01/2025 17:49

Auto prize reinvestment of £500 showing in the app for me too! Brilliant - only have 3k and only won £25 this year.

Katieweasel · 02/01/2025 18:05

Just out of interest, my £5k is already showing as auto invested on my account.

PremiumPrizesPlease · 02/01/2025 18:14

What is the blue app called? I only have the cream one.

SB1971 · 02/01/2025 18:16

I have avoided looking at the big winners list all day and am holding out for my early morning menopausal insomnia check on the cream app! Fingers crossed we all get a win.

Bimblesalong · 02/01/2025 18:22

Brilliant news for more prizes! Mine often doesn’t show on the blue app until just before or after midnight, no matter what I’ve won, so don’t be downhearted if others aren’t showing anything yet. It’s still tomorrow for confirmation really.

EmotionalSupportPotato · 02/01/2025 18:22

SB1971 · 02/01/2025 18:16

I have avoided looking at the big winners list all day and am holding out for my early morning menopausal insomnia check on the cream app! Fingers crossed we all get a win.

I check the blue app during my insomnia

Bimblesalong · 02/01/2025 18:23

@EmotionalSupportPotato I’ve trained my Alexa to check so I can ask in the night 🤣🤣

paranoidnamechanger · 02/01/2025 18:30

PremiumPrizesPlease · 02/01/2025 18:14

What is the blue app called? I only have the cream one.

NS&I

EmotionalSupportPotato · 02/01/2025 18:41

Bimblesalong · 02/01/2025 18:23

@EmotionalSupportPotato I’ve trained my Alexa to check so I can ask in the night 🤣🤣

GENIUS can you get it so it wakes you up in the night if you've won?

Bimblesalong · 02/01/2025 18:43

@EmotionalSupportPotato I would not be pleased if it did! However, I’ve somehow linked it to my Pbond number so I if I wake in the night I can now say “Alexa, have I won on premium bonds?” And it will tell me.

Phase2 · 02/01/2025 19:26

I'm getting back into my grumpy phase of last year , fed up of £25 and the odd £100 and not as lovely as the rest of you at people winning £10k on an ancient £25 holding! I'm not sure I'm cut out for this level of monthly hope and disappointment 🤣

happytobemrsg · 02/01/2025 19:47

Nothing showing on my app 😢 but this is the first time I’ve had it so no benchmark

happytobemrsg · 02/01/2025 19:49

Hmmmm those of you on this thread showing prizes seem to have their prizes on auto invest. I wonder if it’s different for those who get their prizes paid out 🤔

Bimblesalong · 02/01/2025 19:58

@happytobemrsg yes you’re right as it shows for some who have it set to auto invest. Not all of us tho and the smaller prizes appear later in the evening rather than earlydoors. Do not give up hope!

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 20:01

happytobemrsg · 02/01/2025 19:47

Nothing showing on my app 😢 but this is the first time I’ve had it so no benchmark

It never shows me if I've won on the app. I reinvest so for some it does show

It will show Tom

But never the night before like some people

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