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PREMIUM BONDS DEC 2024 .......

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Blondeshavemorefun · 21/11/2024 14:55

New thread and I've been asked to give some basic info. Feel free to add stuff

PB have been about since 1957

Been 30yrs (April 2024) since a million was then the highest prize

nsandi-corporate.com/news-research/news/30-years-premium-bonds-ps1-million-jackpots#

Each bond is £1. You have to buy in minimum of £25 so means 25 chances to win every purchase

Odds of winning £1 million on Premium Bonds at face value are 1 in 2,489,469,818 if you have £25 in PBs.

However most people have more than £25 so the odds depend on how much you do hold.

If you have £100 the odds in any given month are 1 in 49,563,028

£1,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 4,954,991

£50,000 in PB the odds are 1 in 96,839

To win anything odds are 1 in 22000

So providing you have more than £100 you have better odds than winning the lottery 😄

And obviously far better than the lottery - you don’t lose your stake !!!!!!

Bonds have to be in for a clear month before going into the draw

If you want to cash bonds in then usually takes 3 days to go into your account

Winnings can be reinvested if holdings are under £50k

This means they will go into the next months draw without losing a month

Or sent to named bank account if winnings take over FH /want winnings in bank account

More info here

www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/savings/types-of-savings/premium-bonds

The best time to buy premium bonds is on the last day of the month, as this means they are only held by NSI for one month and one day, without being entered into the prize draw.

PB to me is the fun and thrill each month of what if I win big and a millionaire - to then hoping win thousands to a day or two later being grateful if win £25😂

I have nowhere near the maximum and probably never will unless I win £50k + on pb

But only takes one £1 to win that million !!!

I love seeing the low holdings win high amounts

We've seen over the years £100 win £100k and £50 win £25k and even £1 won £10k

Maximum is £50k per person so some do have all for family- mum dad and 2 kids so £200k etx

Those on the thread are varying from few hundred /few thousand - to 20/30k to full holdings of £50k

Everyone is welcome to join in whether small or full holdings

One would expect if had full holdings of £50k to win something every month and think over the year to earn the same as if in a high interest account to win around £1925 in prizes

If have £5k average luck is £175 winnings a year

Obviously some people have better 'luck' than others and some worse - Ie full holdings and not winning anything a month or two or even longer

PB odds calculator below

moneymarvel.co.uk/calculators/premium-bonds/

Or this one is quite good as shows the interest rate of the winnings - obv anything over 5% is good as if in an account you wouid be taxed so be more like 3.75%)

In August 2023, NS&I hiked the prize fund to a 24-year high of 4.65 per cent from 4 per cent, a level not seen since 1999.

But it has been steadily falling since, with the last cut to the prize fund to 4.4 per cent from 4.65 per cent in March

From Dec 2024 it will be at 4.14%

www.candidmoney.com/calculators/national-savings-premium-bond-calculator

From google (august 2023) - The consistent winners are the 1.16 million people who have the maximum £50,000.

They hold almost half of all premium bonds and, at current odds of 1/22000 can expect a monthly stream of tax-free prizes: two a month and three almost every other month, 28 or 29 a year totaling £1,925

From google (Jan 2024) Tho equally With Premium Bonds, for every person who wins £1 million, a lot of people have to win nothing. So the median average will always be lower than the mean average.

This means that, with average luck, most people will win less than the prize rate each year, regardless of how many bonds they hold

To work out your own personal % rate

Take your total prizes, divide it by the number of months and x by 12.

Then divide that figure into your total holding and x 100.

So say £500 prizes in 6 months / 6 x 12 = £1000.

Holdings £30,000 = 1000/30000 x 100 = 3.33% interest rate.

But many on here do have £50k and then consider moving it to an account that pays 4% if their bonds aren't doing very well as would then def get extra money

But remember savings /interest get taxed

PB and their winnings don't

So they do dither whether to pull out from pb and put in high interest account if not winning anything so that they will def earn x amount of interest

But then lose the what if won a million or £100k

If you have PB but not sure if you have ever won esp if moved about a lot

you can write to NS&I. Include these details in the letter:

	Current name

	Current address

	Premium Bond holder number 

	All previous addresses where you might have registered bonds

	Your signature 

You can send your letter to:

NS&I,
Sunderland
SR43 2SB.

There are 2 apps afaik

Cream - prize checker and if won previous month will show a pic - which we all get excited over 😂😂😂

Blue - the app its self works but the showing early often doesn't work for me but those who reinvest their winnings say it shows if won the day before app shows 🙀🙀🙀

Seems the higher the winnings the earlier it shows and can be from 6pm the night before the app shows

And to confuse things I have a White app that is a bookmark - which shows info/list 😄😄😄

Now this has been debated on MANY times but seems to be correct

When do we find out if going to get a visit from AM 😂

The two winners of 
the £1million prizes will be contacted by Agent Million (AM) 😂😂 the day before the first working day of the corresponding month.

There may however be 
exceptions to this, such as when the first working day of the month is a 
bank holiday, for example.

So

Day before first working day - Millionaire knock /call

First day of working month - list showing all winners million to £1k winners - which I always put up for those who can't find it

Day after first working day , including weekends - cream app showing all winnings

You can also check to see if have won via this link with your holders number

www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Hopefully I've covered everything

Good luck one and all 😄

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SundayDread · 02/01/2025 09:56

So ignoring my big win we looked at how well we did last year. I got 2.8% and DH 3.6%.
Not brilliant but not terrible.

BondPremiumBond · 02/01/2025 11:01

Nothing on the big list for me. Last win was 2 x £25 in July and that was on 7.5k.

I have since had to dwindle it down to just over 5k now but thankfully can start bumping it up again for the next 3 months.

Id be very grateful for a £25 or two at this point.

Thank you for the list @Blondeshavemorefun 💐

happytobemrsg · 02/01/2025 11:24

I’m not really sure what my area would be. I know there’s a thing on the website which explains how they chose an area (based on there being 100k bond holders) but that doesn’t help!

Baggyprincess · 02/01/2025 11:48

I’m not sure what my area would show as either@happytobemrsg! Sometimes I see a county, a part of the county, an area of the country or the whole country. I aspire to make it onto the big list and find out where they think I live!!

WearyAuldWumman · 02/01/2025 12:07

RedHelenB · 02/01/2025 07:56

Full results. Just done prize checker and won £125

I'm puzzled - I've not actually checked, but the Prize Checker states that the results aren't in until the 3rd?

WearyAuldWumman · 02/01/2025 12:08

Baggyprincess · 02/01/2025 11:48

I’m not sure what my area would show as either@happytobemrsg! Sometimes I see a county, a part of the county, an area of the country or the whole country. I aspire to make it onto the big list and find out where they think I live!!

Same here. I saw three for my county, and another couple for a bigger area including my county.

Baggyprincess · 02/01/2025 12:10

WearyAuldWumman · 02/01/2025 12:08

Same here. I saw three for my county, and another couple for a bigger area including my county.

It’s many years since my account was setup - I wonder if I chose my area when it was created? Or maybe it’s taken from an address, but that wouldn’t explain some of the area descriptors I’ve seen for people who could be near me!

paranoidnamechanger · 02/01/2025 12:11

WearyAuldWumman · 02/01/2025 12:07

I'm puzzled - I've not actually checked, but the Prize Checker states that the results aren't in until the 3rd?

Results / prizes below £1K aren’t available until tomorrow.

WearyAuldWumman · 02/01/2025 12:20

Baggyprincess · 02/01/2025 12:10

It’s many years since my account was setup - I wonder if I chose my area when it was created? Or maybe it’s taken from an address, but that wouldn’t explain some of the area descriptors I’ve seen for people who could be near me!

Edited

I thought that it was taken from your address, but I'm now puzzled by what I'm seeing on the prize lists.

happytobemrsg · 02/01/2025 12:31

So this is what the website says about locations:

www.nsandi.com/get-to-know-us/prize-winner-locations

PremiumPrizesPlease · 02/01/2025 12:31

How long would you leave a large sum of money in them without winning anything? I'm thinking by February it will be six months and I should probably pull money out to put into an ISA.

CaveMum · 02/01/2025 12:34

PremiumPrizesPlease · 02/01/2025 12:31

How long would you leave a large sum of money in them without winning anything? I'm thinking by February it will be six months and I should probably pull money out to put into an ISA.

Depends what you mean by "large sum". With full holdings you should be winning something most months. Personally I would prioritize maxing out an ISA over Premium Bonds but appreciate that a lot of people don't have the ability to do both.

happytobemrsg · 02/01/2025 12:34

PremiumPrizesPlease · 02/01/2025 12:31

How long would you leave a large sum of money in them without winning anything? I'm thinking by February it will be six months and I should probably pull money out to put into an ISA.

For me it depends on how accessible I need the money to be, not the rate of return. I’m currently using PB for my savings whilst on maternity leave which means I need to access it all of the time. This is where I plan to save my “emergency funds” when I return to work & can actually save. For me, emergency funds are 3-6 months expenses. Once that’s saved, I’ll then start saving in my ISA because that’s for longer term & doesn’t need to be accessed (that’s what the PB money would be for)

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 13:23

Thanks @ChanelBoucle

That rings a bell

So all money is included once paid in /bought bonds but they may not all be in the draw if got within the last month

So def wasn't me

So goes in what you have

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Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 13:24

fantasticoplastico · 02/01/2025 05:44

Not on the big list- I did see a family friend yesterday though who had won £3000 last month which was exciting.

3 lots of £1k or various like £100 £500 etx

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Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 13:25

fantasticoplastico · 02/01/2025 07:26

I don't know what the prize breakdown was. She very kindly gave me some money when times were hard for me so I'm
delighted karmas come back to her.

Oh sorry hadn't read all when replied

How lovely

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Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 13:25

Katieweasel · 02/01/2025 07:31

OMG I won £5k. Got all excited as I have an unusual amount and it was my county and I knew that I had bought a block of bonds of that value. Checked my account and it wasn't the correct month. Had a shower and then had a thought that the app shows when bonds are eligible and not when they are bought. So I checked again and the number matches! What a great start to the year!

Wow @Katieweasel

Our months winner so far

Well done

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Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 13:27

Shoobidowhop · 02/01/2025 07:33

I can check mine properly on the checker for January so no need to rely on the list
https://www.nsandi.com/prize-checker

Absolutely nothing this month boo! I will buy some this month thanks to redundancy pay out

This doesn't update till tomorrow

Hence why we all get excited over list

Tho obv doesn't show £500 £100 £50 £25

So what you are seeing is December winnings if any

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Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 13:27

OrangeCarrot · 02/01/2025 07:46

Nothing on a FH. Great start to the new year haha

Wait till tomorrow. You may win some £25 +

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Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 13:28

PrioritisePleasure24 · 02/01/2025 07:49

Nothing for me but i do like to see a fair few people around my holding of £4/5k winning as well as more on less too. This is why i keep them in despite rarely winning really…. the long game may just get me a larger win!

Roll on tomoz

Edited

Same @PrioritisePleasure24

I don't have many and will shrink again when pay my tax at end of jan but always hopeful

And I did very well last year

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Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 13:29

OriginalLilibet · 02/01/2025 08:18

January results are available on the website.

I have two £50 wins showing for January in the prize history.

That's December

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WowIlikereallyhateyou · 02/01/2025 13:51

Annual return rate on full holdings for Jan 24-Dec 24 is 4.5%, happy with that!

Spaceracers · 02/01/2025 14:10

Baggyprincess · 02/01/2025 11:48

I’m not sure what my area would show as either@happytobemrsg! Sometimes I see a county, a part of the county, an area of the country or the whole country. I aspire to make it onto the big list and find out where they think I live!!

This is my New Year's resolution! I see inner London, outer London and sometimes just London. Would love to find out where I live!

happytobemrsg · 02/01/2025 14:15

@Spaceracers I think I may have seen my London borough on there once. But only once so maybe it’s changed? No idea

WearyAuldWumman · 02/01/2025 14:23

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/01/2025 13:29

That's December

Yes, I made that mistake last month - reported a December win, when it was actually my November win.

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